February 14, 2012
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Swedish migration authorities have come in for scathing criticism following a decision to deport a man so ill with Parkinson’s disease that his home country of Nigeria refused to grant him entry.
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They have nothing common with Sweden.
These unhuman beings want destroy our world.
"This trip was planned and carried out by the police, and it's the police's job to have the necessary contacts to ensure that the trip can take place. We had no reason to believe that he wouldn't be accepted by Nigeria," she told TV4.
Its like saying: "I had no reason to believe that I would be conned or ripped off".
Such comments serve to highlight the level of ignorance people in positions of authority have here in Government instiutions. Then again, the exact same thing could be said for all Immigration Heads all over the world - and Australia especially not-so-long-ago when it carried out deportations of its own citizens.
Anyway - such cases only serve to put forward the idea of a mechanised government where non-human elements play a role in the execution of policies right down to the individual. Privacy groups ofcourse hate this idea.
Single children coming to Sweden are granted asylum while a child who has always been in Sweden is to be deported with her day who is convicted of abusing her. It is often people with skills and those who have good conduct that face most problems with the Migration Board. Not to mention the long waiting times which would discourage and dampen any enthusiastic immigrant to make his way into the new country's society. After waiting 2 years or so, these immigrations would have already got used to the passive lifestyle.
The Nigerian authority may be thinking the following?
This guy did not left his country with this ill health, why must he be returned with this?
Secondly, it can be looked as mr A is a student in sweden and had a car accident, since mr A could not be taken care of so therefore he have to be deported. without minding if he pays taxes or not and perform other civil obligations as an international student.
On the other hand, what duties do nigerian government hold to it's citizens?. i think if this guy happened to be a scientist, he will be given preferential treatment but due to condition, the opposite is the case.
in all, we all donate money to take care of people in developing countries, gives grants to countries and people in poor condition, why can't this help be rendered to this guy in this soil?
I cant imagine the horror of this reality.
As a Nigerian I am proud of my country. Just as you will agree with me that migration is a human phenomemnon, John will very much have liked to be in his homeland if the odds we not there.
Anyway this is a wake up call for us all we cannot run away from those who oppress us forever.We must fight and remove them from high offices in that country.
This is just one of the numerous young Nigerians that is ending up been terminally indisposed in sweden.We reflect with you John and understand what you are passing through
JOHN NIGERIA HAS REJECTED YOU AND SWEDEN DOES NOT WANT YOU, BUT YOU REMAIN WHO YOU ARE, A HUMAN BEING WHO DESERVES A DECENT TREATMENT.
THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES! IT IS NOT YET UHURU!!!!
Admit, Uhuru has a better ring than Jihad,however don't believe this is the forum to start your desired revolution.
Please don't place the blame on little Sweden,for the ills of Nigeria.
*remember Nigeria is producing daily circa 4.5 billion barrels of oil*
I am not a muslim I dont support violence neither i'm I a revolutionist.
I believe in power of the ballot box.So be civil in your comments.
You are not Nigerian so be still air your views my dear its a free wolrd.
Its not yet Uhuru and Uhuru we stand peace
Mona Sahlin
While at it, a suggestion.
Those who are imigrants to Sweden, who have actually committed crimes. Deport them instead.
Best of luck in your non-violent actions to attain your Uhuru. Far better results and greater interest would likely be found by directing your energies of your quest for Uhuru on a Nigeria forum,don't you think?
*lycka till*
He has the right to live as everyone have the right to live. everyone have to live anywhere in world. But John has speical situation, He is so ill and refuge.
You people, dont have conscience? no sense of feeling?
no heart? no mercy? who you are to judge a human? who are not able to survive... imagne your self instead of him.
just pray for him and god will take care of the rest!
Though I think Sweden should have focused first on sending home all the criminal immigrants/refugees, instead of a man who suffers from an illness.
How on earth could a poor sick guy like John be deported back to africa while he can receive better treatment here in Sweden?
What happened to the clause on compassionate and humanitarian grounds?
Actually, Nigeria is producing about 1.6 million bbls of oil / day currently - only of by a factor of about 3000X.
*efficiency comes with time*
Swedish..
1. Before deportation did you contact the Nigeria Authority about the state of John, so they know how to handle it?
2. Did you make any research or ask yourselves questions about the possibilities of him getting good medication in his home country?
Sweden search your hearts & judge yourselves, if u hav regards for human life u will ask yourselves so many questions b4 going into such mission.
Nigeria Government.
Nigeria this is high time we grown up, This is a little lesson that should have a big impact to us. We aren't even ashamed to reject our own. 48years old with abondance of resources no good health care, to take care of John. Most we trade words with sweden while John dies? What if John is the Son of Obasanjo the Ex president, would he be thrown back to sweden?
In Summary, Sweden dont throw people's life around in the name of deportation think b4 you act. And Nigeria dont take the blame on the poor boy, because if you have given him good job he wouldn't even travel to Sweden to do, REKLAM AND MIDNITE PAPER JOBS.....
E.g: "Sweden, ye will all die, unless ye repent ye niggardly immigrant loving ways!"
"Islam, ye fjuck thee little children and cannot reade for shite"
I love it.
*Nigeria like many other African countries,are a lost cause*
I can understand that Nigeria government or whoever that stop the guy from being return to Nigeria is trying to help the guy. Because they know that Nigeria dont have the medical facilities to take care of the guy.
But the bad thing is that the person(s) or Nigeria government has forgetting that this can only bring bad image for Nigeria. Because a country suppose not to refuse entry to its citizen expect on some other cases. and in this guys case He has right to be in his country dead or alive.
MAY GOD HEAL OLASUPO AND GRANT HIM LONG LIFE. AMEN!
Perhaps Nigeria would like to make a donation towards this man's medical treatment? A few barrels of oil?
*Sits back, cracks open a beer, scratches self.
Also, I will like mention that if the migration board is returning olasupo to Nigeria based on the ground that he is illegal in the country I think it is another issue to be discussed and I think there should be condition on that return. Like if he is return and then allow to enter the country for his treatment or been taken to another country that is better for his treatment.
Meanwhile, this issue should be taken into consideration if migration dont know that olasupo is living in sweden until he is sick.
(2) The "the unattained ideal was unbounded" doesn't actually mean anything in the English language.
You may want to spin this as a racial issue, with all "BLACK" people somehow being victimised by this situation, but this is not a matter of bigotry, or even ideology, it is an issue of financial responsibility and a national policy based upon an evaluation of multiple priorities.
We have a responsibility to each other as Swedes, regardless of our skin colour, and we extend that social contract to some extent to legal resident aliens in Sweden. If the man in question fell into either of those two groups, he would partake in that social contract. We also extend assistance to many people outside these two groups as a matter of choice, but not as an obligation. I would not be in any way adverse to the man in question receiving medical care funded at least in part by Sweden as a sort of foreign assistance, but I am adverse to being bullied into "ownership" of this problem as a result of people such as yourself playing the race card.
We are not responsible for him any more than we would be for someone completely unrelated to Sweden, because he has not entered into the social contract himself. In fact, quite the contrary, he has either illegally entered the country, or has over-stayed his permitted time. He has actually violated the social contract. A person cannot simply wake up in the morning and decide that they should be the recipient of Swedish welfare and health services; there is a legal process and a set of legal criteria.
And before I get the customary "you are heartless" comments about expecting people to follow the processes established by our democratically elected officials, I will pre-empt those comments by saying that establishing and maintaining these legal processes is far more humane than allowing chaos and confusion to determine public policy. Sweden is in a position to help many people because we do make an effort to maintain coherent public policy.
So, in other words, you are an obnoxious moron, and you diatribe against the people of Sweden is offensively ignorant. If you are so concerned about this man, why don't you raise some money to help him, instead of wasting your time alienating people who might actually be sympathetic to his situation?
A strong population growth in Sweden increased the pressure on a society which was fundamentally agriculture in nature,and moving to North America provided the Swedish emigrants with the economic opportunity not available in the homeland.The Swedes as well as the Europeans were accepted whole heartedly even when there was a strain on the financial resources to cope with the influx.So why the bias on foreign immigration to Sweden and the rest of europe as witnessed in the recent National and European Parliamentary polls with the dominant election of center right parties?Afterall immigration in its entirety has not been rudimentary cause of the global financial crisis.I think the real moran here is you.
Dear John,
you have been a veteran of creative suffering,continue to work with faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.In God we trust.
Yours truly,
Minister
You've misunderstood the implications of the history that you are attempting to lecture me upon.
(1) Swedish immigrants were actively sought after in the United States during the time period that you spoke of because they were perceived to be above average workers with above average skills, AND there was a shortage of both agricultural and industrial workers in the US at that time. Sweden has not actively sought out John for his skill set.
(2) Swedish immigrants were engaged in the legal act of immigration. Your friend John has broken our laws and is an illegal immigrant.
(3) Swedish immigrants were offered almost no state funded support by the US government, and certainly were not provided free health care.
Want to go have another think about these things and try again?
On the other hand, I still maintain that attacking Swedes as being "lowly" and "ignorant" is both counter-productive and offensive. I found myself going from being somewhat sympathetic to John's situation to being completely un-sympathetic as a result of your post.
You are not working for Sverigedemokraterna are you?
Yours Truly,
Minister
John is not personally known to me.He is just one of the many Africans in diaspora;and because of my morality and respect for human dignity I speak on his behalf,lest he be removed for expediency sake.And for the record,this is not a lecture.I get paid for summary lectures and yes i have worked with Sverigedemokraterna as well as other non-governmental asssociations.
Your rhetoric is impressive, I assure you, but it does not change the essential facts of the case. A Swedish citizen, or legal resident, of any ethnicity, receives state subsidised health care. Illegal immigrants, of any ethnicity, do not have a right to state subsidised health care.
If a boatload of Russians motored into Stockholm looking for treatment for their parkinson's disease, bearing in mind that ethnic Rus are in fact Swedes that wandered east, I would still be saying "put them back on their boat and send them back to where they came from."
Russia, Nigeria, it makes no difference. They need to get themselves organised to deal with the needs of their own people, and not expect us to be their safety net. In fact, one of the negative associations with giving foreign aid and accepting so many refugees is that it helps relieve pressure on bad regimes.
Yours Truly,
Minister
Sure you don't have a bit of Irish lineage in your ancestry since your always opposed to suffrage and emancipation?
There's nothing you can say that justifies Nigeria not taking responsibility for this sick man, in one way or another.
It only proves that Nigeria is a "sick nation" when it rejects it's own and let's someone else pay the bill.
http://www.aroostook.me.us/newsweden/
Guess that you could Google the topic, though, if you are really interested.
Here is another link for you to follow:
http://www.ministerisstartingtoannoyme.edu
I wonder what would happen if he tried using: www.thecounty.org or www.goawayayuh.org?
BTW - the link furnished works fine for me. But then again, I'm married to a Mainer and thus approved to access these things.
Since we're jabbering about all things Svensk-Amerikansk, do I need to dig up the history of Delaware, as well?
I sometimes wonder how the relatives who left for The County felt when they arrived at their new homes, after their long voyage, to find that the County is cold, dark, impoverished, mosquito infested, and good only for growing potatoes.
Fortunately, I was such a rabble rouser that I got fired before I ever had to go there. The rumor was that you were parachuted in, and at night so that if you didn't make, there would be no rescue effort as there was then little hope of finding you, dead or alive.
The annoying thing about Fort Kent is that there is a train that runs there, but only for freight. Passenger rail would make that area much more accessible. I made the drive up from Boston a couple times, and it was unpleasant. I seem to remember running out of highway someplace north of Bangor, and then dodging Moose the rest of the way. Too much like home for my taste!
Part of my family moved to Jemtland Maine in the late 1800s- notice that at the time that the New Sweden area was settled, the accursed "ä" had not yet been inflicted upon us. I have thought about buying a vacation house there, as property is inexpensive, but it is just too far off the beaten path.
And yes, Kang, you are probably right. They probably just went about their business without remark. That generation was far more stoic than us. These days we can't seem to even pick a therapist without help from our support group. Except for you, Dr. Ford. We know that you remain as uncompromising and virile as ever.
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My wife and I had only been living a few days in Bangor when a new acquaintance, Edward Nadel in the Ecomics Department, asked if we would like to demonstrate against Vice President Hubert Humphrey, giving a speech in favor of America's participation.
Of course, we said yes, as I had long disliked him because of his rabid anti-communism, and the demonstration passed off with incident.
A few days later, the Department Chairman, Eugene MaWhinney, called me in for a meeting where he told me I was fired, and to look for another job at the end of the academic year. Nadel got fired too, so we sometimes played chess together when nothing else was planned. So much for America's posturing then about human rights, and I hear that it is not much different now.
Since I had been fired the previous year by Heidelberg College in Ohio for participating in a teach-in, and had made a big fuss when the local paper simply reported it as a speech by my opponent in the teach-in, I was quite well versed in the issues regarding the war, and had a real ball making trouble at Orono during the rest of the year,
I particularly liked telling Professor Edward Dow, the Waspish doyen of the department who taught constitutional law, and who terrified all the other members of the Department, particularly MaWhinney - who had replaced him after many years of leading the loyal membership - that he didn't know anything really relevant to the vicious war in Southeast Asia. Then I tore into the professor teaching international relations, one WWII veteran Bud Schoenburger, when he gave a similar speel in a public lecture.
At the same time, I was continually writing letter to the Bangor paper, protesting the war. In doing so, I became a strong supporter of Casius Clay's opposition to the war - what led my office mate to refer to me as a "nigger love", what almost resulted in a serious bustup there.
In short, it was a most exciting and interesting time - one which ended with both the University and me happy to see the end of each other.
The best thing about it was its library, one which helped me finish my Ph.d. dissertation on Henry Brougham, a famous English Lord Chancellor, while I was there. Maine still believed in public education, and the best thing it could spend its money on was material which would help educate its inhabitants. That was the reason for the lectures at remote Fort Kent.
The priviledge of US Citizenship is limited to "Free white Persons."
(American's first naturalization law 1790)
"Any person unable to take care of himself or herself without becoming a public charge "is prohibited from entering the United States."
(1882 Act to Regulate)
The passage of the Immigration Act of 1924(The Johnson-Reed Act)resulted from a mixture of fears and hate,tempered by idealism and by vision,which lie behind the complex motivations of congressional action.Under this act only some one hundred and fifty thousands would be permitted to enter the United States.If you were of Anglo-Saxan origin,you could have over two-thirds of the quota numbers alloted to your people.If you were Japanese you could not come in at all.The US congress decided that presrving the racial composition of the country was more important than promoting good ties with the Japanese empire.In all of its parts the most basic of its purpose was to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity.The law was later revised in 1952.
Yours Truly,
Minister
I admire your patriotism but it would be wrong to dismiss the fact that the 1.3 million Swedes migrated FREELY not LEGALLY.Some were sought but most moved due to the recession back home.Evidence of the recession and migration of Swedes is even located in the museums across stockholm.
I know that it seems that Sweden is also largely unpopulated, but that is an illusion. Our forests are being managed sustainably, and will not support more cutting over the long term. The Baltic Sea is polluted and unproductive. We cannot responsibly take in more people than we can feed and employ, although we may have already done that. We don't have many entry level jobs for recent arrivals, as the world economy has moved these sorts of jobs to other places. We will always want talented and motivated people from around the world to do research, IT work, and so forth, and we are even willing to educate said people at our universities to support this. We are more vulnerable than many countries to climate change and the worldwide peaking and eventual decline of oil supplies, so we need to think to the future, especially now that our fisheries are in bad shape.
You know what would be a great place for immigrants? Nigeria! It is huge and has vast tracts of arable land, as well as tremendous mineral wealth. There should be lots of food and jobs there!
Yahhhmuth? Falllmuth? Kum-brr-lannd?
Something like that, isn't it? My memory is fail at the moment. I think Minister is sucking the very joy from my life, clouding my mind with the depressing history of Amerikan immigration policy, for which somehow I am now accountable.
Unfortunately Minster is still barking up the wrong tree, as I am not swayed in any way by the colour of one's skin. In my view there are Jamts, who are the highest form of life, honorary Jamts who come next (you know who you are), and then the great unwashed. If you happen to be dark-skinned Jamt, you are still superior to everyone else.
If you really want to get me to change my mind about John, Minister, get him married off to a Jamt.
I wonder...does Nigeria assume responsibility, financial or otherwise, for her former citizens? Deportee or not?
Minister, take your sermons back to Black Liberation Theology class, they have no relevance here.
Pedantics. The fact is that however you try to word it they were not breaking the law by being there. The guy in this case was breaking the law. And what Swedes were doing in America over a hundred years ago has nothing to do with what Nigerians are doing today.
Besides - I don't recall the Swedes setting up elaborate email scams in the United States, either.
(hey - someone was going to say it)
Minister, feel free to continue posting your ideological manifesto without prompting from me. Apparently you are more interested in projecting a set of positions that I don't actually have upon me than actually responding to any positions that I post. I understand that this is your big issue and that you have a lot to say, so by all means, keep it coming. Good luck. Let us know if you get the whole thing worked out.
Do you know who might want to exchange posts about American immigration policy and history with you? JoeMath! Are you out there Joe? You are needed.
Why don't you understand the concept of a paragraph?
XO
High Priestess Kang - Slut, Card Carrying Mossad Member *and* Westerner Collaborator
Do you have any fish to go with those shoulder chips?