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Troops ransack Afghan hospital: Swedish charity

Published: 07 Sep 2009 17:49 GMT+02:00
Updated: 07 Sep 2009 17:49 GMT+02:00

The Swedish Committee for Afghanistan (SCA) said troops entered the hospital in Shaniz, in Wardak province south of Kabul, late on Wednesday "without giving any reason or justification".

"They searched all rooms, even bathrooms, male and female wards," the SCA said in a statement on its website, quoting country director Anders Fange.

"Rooms that were locked were forcefully entered and the doors of the malnutrition ward and the ultrasound ward were broken by force to gain entry.

"Upon entering the hospital they tied up four employees and two family members of patients at the hospital. SCA staff as well as patients, even those in beds, were forced out of rooms (and) wards throughout the search," it said.

Describing the incident as unacceptable, the SCA said the military action was "a clear violation of globally recognized humanitarian principles about the sanctity of health facilities and staff in areas of conflict".

It said it also breached civil-military agreements between non-governmental organisations and the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), which along with the US has more than 100,000 foreign troops in Afghanistan.

The incident lasted two hours, after which the troops "issued verbal orders" that any patient who might be an insurgent must be reported to coalition forces.

An ISAF spokesman said an investigation had been launched but no information would be available until it was completed.

The SCA has been operating in Afghanistan since the 1980s, working in 16 provinces mostly in the east, in education, health and disability.

News of the incident comes after a NATO air strike in the northern province of Kunduz early on Friday that officials have said killed or injured 90 people.

That incident reignited anger among ordinary Afghans about what can be heavy-handed tactics by foreign troops fighting a resurgent Taliban militia that have refined their tactics and are killing record numbers of international soliders.

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18:58 September 7, 2009 by Per Johansson52
Are you sure it was Swedish army?

I think American soldiers has inspired our soldiers... what to say? get out of Afganistan now!!!!!
19:04 September 7, 2009 by Eurostan
how naive are swedish charity people in afghanistan.thats why now sweden is burning now. malmo , gothenburg, vasteras , uppsala are burning already. stockholm, linkoping norrkoping will burn next year. because with the effect of religion of peace.

most of the afghan people are barbarians. their pathetic situation now is direct result of their deeds in the past.

let them pray ALLA he will come and save .
19:23 September 7, 2009 by peropaco
Pär, of course it was the swedish army. They are unmistakable. They sport the usual red strip around the neck and colourless cheeks when exposed to sunlight. Ah, lest not forget the puffy upper lips from snos. :-D
19:30 September 7, 2009 by Harding00
I don't think the article said it was the Swedish military. But also, don't you want to know the other side of the story? Like did the military have reasons to believe that there were insurgents in the hospital? I also thought the passage "News of the incident comes after a NATO air strike in the northern province of Kunduz early on Friday that officials have said killed or injured 90 people." had nothing to do with the article. I think it was just a left winger throwing in what they could to make the NATO troops look bad. And before anyone assumes my political stance, I am just barely left of center (as in American center, not Swedish center)
19:40 September 7, 2009 by Greg in Canada
Well I hope these weren't Canadian troops because we're there in a combat role. Most of us would like to bring our troops home and get out of that shithole of a place.

I agree there are two sides to the story. Perhaps the Swedish aid workers were unknowingly sheltering Taliban? They could be that naive?.
19:47 September 7, 2009 by peropaco
Greg in Canada, yes, they are naive. It wouldnt surprise me if some of those women would marry some of the talibans and bring them to a neighborhood near me
20:39 September 7, 2009 by racehorse
Peropaco....I enjoy your postings....carry on the good work !

The London Guardian reports, by the way, that the raid was carried out by US troops.
21:28 September 7, 2009 by DaTraveler
Yes it were American troops who make up majority of those in the East but also Polish, Czech and New Zealanders. With the new rules of engagement, all ISAF troops have to be more sympathetic and basically not to fire within presence of civilians, so I'd imagine this whole incident must have only occured if they had evidence of major insurgent activity.

I don't doubt that Swedes are too kind and nice and get their goodness taking for weakness. But let's not be instant critical when we don't know the whole story.
23:55 September 7, 2009 by lingonberrie
I have heard the American radio report from their NPR News (National Public Radio) in detail, from the American NPR correspondent who was stationed in Kabul, and who gave the true assessment of this assault.

They were United States troops. They also assaulted the staff and threatened them, and ordered them to report anyone seeking attention. The US military said that an investigation was under way.

They had no authority to enter that Swedish facility.

Nowhere in this article are the "troops" identified as United States troops. Why is that?

This news about the United States troops involvement is all over the Amrican airwaves, so there is no denying who was responsible. They were in a joint operation with Afgan forces, but the U.S. troops were the ones that were doing the assaulting.

Now, come out of the wood-work you radical Ameicans who constantly pollute this forum with your radicalism.

You Swedes who believe that I am tough on the Americans, check the true and complete version of this event for yourselves. You can find the data anywhere in the United States newspapers.

I heard this on 7 Sept 09, on the American "Labor Day" holiday.
00:38 September 8, 2009 by Moshe
"A Swedish charity has claimed that foreign troops entered its hospital..." Must have been IDf soldiers from Israel. They needed fresh medical supplies to remove the organs from their next victims.

Who ever wrote this article was very descriptive in describing the attack but did not notice the military who did the attack.

Harding00 has a good point but I still think it was the IDF. No one but the Jews could do such a dasterly act against the Swedish charity. If you don't believe me, you can always get a accurate answer from Hamas.
03:26 September 8, 2009 by GLO
This is another make believe story SWEDEN..It's called PROPAGANDA...

An American Lt. asked to enter the hospital,was escorted,normal protective Rules of Search and Seisure were followed to protect everyone. Locked doors were crashed per SOP,broken doors will be repaired or cash payment dispersed on the spot. The whole idea is to search and destroy TERRORISTS, thats what happens in war KIDS...

SOMEONE has told a very serious LIE...Lets wait for the investigation to conclude. We- you- us Dont need to be there at all."Alexander The Great" understood how to conduct a War of success...with exact Moral Rules to extract his goals with the least bloodshed. You should look to your own backyard...

The bridge will be your Future Problem.... NOT the KHYBER PASS. Protect your sons........
04:58 September 8, 2009 by Tony Ryals
Any fool I would have said other than the U.S. would know from the Viet Nam experience if nothing else or from Russia's experience in Afghanistan that the era of occupying colonial style other countries was for another era when at least the populations who were being colonized and suppressed were smaller and less armed with modern weapons we provide them for heroine,etc.,than today's over populated impoverished third world countries.But the Europoids have fallen in line and march to the irrythmic drum beat of Barack Osama and his Zio Nazis in the White House led by Rahm Emanuel the Eastern European money launderer and raper of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that he sould be in jail for alone now that the killer kkklow W Bush has set the beat.The money from rape of Freddie Mac mortgage pump and dump fraud probably went to his Zionazi allies in Israel anyway so they should be paying the bill for our war crimes if our governments are so insistent that the war crimes must continue.Don't let Barack Osama's skin color fool you.Remember Idi Amin ? You Europoids who cheered him on just because his skin was black should now write the White House and remind him of Idi Amin and how much he's beginning to look like a skinny version...I love real African Americans such as Cynthia McKinney who was jailed in Israel bringing crayons to poor Palestinian children,the Reverend Jeramiah Wright who Barack Obama used and stepped upon to reach the White House as well as the assassinated Martin Luther King. But Barack Osama is NOT one of them though I wish he would have a change of heart and ADOPT THEM AS ROLE MODELS.

Iraqis were bombed and raped due to 9/11 war fraud of Israelis Menachem Atzmon,Ezra Harel et.al. running the ICTS International stock and security fraud at Logan Airport and Marvin Bush,cousin Wirt Walker III and the Kuwait Al Sabah royals running the Dulles Airport security and securities fraud at Dulles Airport on 911.

Knowing these facts Sweden and Bildt should NEVER go to Israel and Swedish troops should be withdrawn from Afghanistan if not NATO ASAP.IT WOULD BE BETTER NOT TO ROB AND RAPE MAIME AND MURDER OTHER NATIONS' PEOPLE (A LA GERMANY'S BOMBING IN AFGHANISTAN A SHORT WHILE AGO) THAN TO TRY AND TAKE ALL THEIR REFUGEES(IMPOSSIBLE)OUT OF REAL GUILT LATER.

And it appears it is Israel who has a greater interest in the Afghhan oil pipeline more than anyone else.The CIA is probably only in it for the heroine.Remember white guys from Israel aren't semites and they are out and out liars or under the influence of a dangerous religious cult if they claim to be.

Prosecute American,Isrealis and their war criminal Arab allies in Kuwait,Dubai,Saudi Arabia - don't rape and torture and murder more Afghanis and Iraqs....Iraqi women in Baghdad could the streets in safety without a chador and even weapons searchers and tourists could walk the streets of Baghdad before you brought them 'Shiite Democracy'.Do you all want 'Shiite Democracy' ?
07:35 September 8, 2009 by Rick Methven
From the BBC

"US forces are being accused of storming into a hospital in Wardak province, north-west of the capital Kabul, in a late night raid in search of insurgents.

The Swedish Committee for Afghanistan, which runs the hospital, says that its employees were tied up by soldiers who spent two hours searching the hospital.

The committee says this was in clear violation of international principles as well as local agreements, and makes their humanitarian task more difficult."

@Tony Ryals

Ishould get rid of whatever it is your on before the police come knocking at your door. It is really screwing up your head
07:57 September 8, 2009 by swedekk
What has Israel to do with this article? I think you trolls are silly...

lingonberrie is right according to what other Swedish media have reported.
08:17 September 8, 2009 by GefleFrequentFlyer
Well, first off, my speculation, if this Swedish "charity" is anything like other "Swedish charities" at home in Sweden, or abroad, the ISAF/US/Afghan Forces have the right to be suspect.

It appears the "foreign forces" were chasing a suspect that detonated a IED and was seen running towards the hosptial. Sounds like Anders Fange has some facts to come clean with. Or, the media that the Local is getting is half assed. I suppose, all that is needed to clear up any "confusion" was whether the "Foreign Foces" asked permission to enter the first place (which ISAF/US claims), and in the heat of the pursuit, I'd give them a free pass to break down doors anyways.

For Mr. Fange to think that hospitals are some sort of "neutral off limits zone" for both ISAF/US/Afgan armies and the Taliban is simply naive and idoidic and he needs to be reminded that he is indeed in a war zone, and should he ever need assistance if his charity hospital is being attacked, he'll be calling the ISAF/US, not the Taliban.

And wow Tony, that was an impressive theory you typed up there.
08:21 September 8, 2009 by bubbagump
And here you go for the other side of the story. Notice that it took the "charity" 4 days before they even reported the incident. I'll have to do this in two segments.

A U.S. military spokesman and a senior adviser to the Army's 10th Mountain Division are now pushing back against claims made by a Swedish charity group that its soldiers rampaged through a hospital in Wardak province, Afghanistan while searching for insurgents.

A senior spokesman for Central Command (CENTCOM) Captain Jack Hanzlik said the Army did enter the hospital, but did so in cooperation with the Afghan National Army, the Afghan National Police, and the staff of the hospital.

Anders Fange, the country director of the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan, on Monday accused troops of breaking down doors, searching patients' relatives and entering the ultrasound room.

The Swedish Committee for Afghanistan put out a statement 4 days after the incident claiming: "the U.S. troops "searched all rooms, even bathrooms, male and female wards. Rooms that were locked were forcefully entered and the doors of the malnutrition ward and the ultrasound ward were broken by force to gain entry."

The statement went on to accuse U.S. soldiers of restraining hospital workers and tying up family members of several patients.

Captain Hanzlik told Fox News that members of Task Force 82, which includes members of the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division, were chasing insurgents who had recently detonated an Improvised Explosive Device, or roadside bomb.

Those forces, he said, had strong reason to believe that an insurgent commander was in the hospital and explained these concerns to hospital staff before seeking permission to enter the hospital.

Coalition forces, which included members of the Afghan National Army and Police, then entered the hospital with permission from the staff, the military said. "No one was tied up," according to Hanzlik. "However, one locked door was kicked in, but again with permission from the hospital."
08:23 September 8, 2009 by swedekk
That hospital is a neutral zone, and the reason behind it is that they hope that both sides should respect the agreement and not harass the personnel.

I can add that it was the 10:th mountain division which attacked the hospital.
08:23 September 8, 2009 by bubbagump
Part 2:

Lt James Peck, who was the on scene commander, said they spoke with the hospital staff before entering any of the rooms.

"They didn't have keys for two doors. The rest they were able to open with keys, but the two they didn't have keys for, we asked them first if we could enter, and they said if we desired we could enter."

"We asked permission before we forcibly entered the rooms. We only forcibly entered because we didn't have a way of getting into the rooms."

The insurgent was not found. A senior civilian adviser to the 10th Mountain Division who is based in Wardak said concerns were raised about the troops having entered the hospital when the charity group's headquarters in Kabul heard that U.S. troops had entered the clinic.
08:35 September 8, 2009 by bubbagump
Here is the actual after action report written by the commander on scene. You may not agree or believe him, but at least, you'll here the other side of the story. I don't think you'd have ever heard this from TheLocal. I'm pretty sure non-biased journalism is dead:

"While assisting the ANA in securing COP 3, an ANA outpost on HWY1, we received an intelligence report that there was a Taliban Commander being treated for wounds received in a firefight with my platoon earlier in the week.

We maintained observation of the clinic, but did not move until there was ISR on station to assist in observing the clinic and the surrounding areas. We arrived at the hospital with the partnered ANP in order to investigate the report.

There was no forced entry and the ANP were leading the investigation. We were able walk into the building without incident. We moved some individuals out into the courtyard for their own safety on the chance that the fighter was still armed and capable of violence.

Once we found the doctors we asked them to use their keys to open as many doors as they could. We explained that we were looking for a man who had wounds from a gunshot or from shrapnel and who had been admitted in the last 72 hours- they simply shrugged their shoulders and said they had no idea what we were talking about.

We did not flex-cuff any individuals and did not force people who were bed-ridden to leave their beds. We did have the staff who were sleeping move into the courtyard. We did search the entire hospital and any area that was designated for females the room was checked by an Afghan interpreter with a clinic staff member and an Afghan policeman who only required that they say their name to ensure a fighter was not concealing himself as woman which has been a tactic to avoid capture.

We had the female nurses leave their rooms, because we did not want to search a room with the females in such close proximity and the search was limited to whether there was or was not a person in the room and if the persons matched the report.

Once the search was complete we spoke with the doctors in the courtyard before leaving. SFC Card and I explained that we did not want the hospital to stop treating Taliban and in fact, encouraged them to continue their treatment of the Taliban or anyone that is injured.

We apologized for entering the hospital at such a late hour and told them that this could be prevented in the future if they would call the OCCP or the ANP when any individual who has wounds from shrapnel or from a gunshot is admitted for treatment. They maintained that they would not do that and that they did not even trust their own government. T

he doctors also kept complaining about the Four Horsemen International and how that someone from FHI assaulted a doctor and shot up the courtyard- we know this incident as the one that happened two months ago in early July. The report we received was that the doctors refused the FHI treatment and the FHI individual reacted by assaulting the doctor.

The doctors were fairly belligerent and were not even open to listening to what we had to say- they only complained about the FHI and about how they did not have any obligation or duty to call the ANP or OCCP when an individual who had GSW or shrapnel wounds was admitted. As far as the locks being broken, the staff explained that they did not have some of the keys, but told us we could go into the rooms by force.

In previous interactions with the hospital staff they complained about our presence and demanded that we only come to the hospital without armor and weapons. They have also said that they have “no issues” with the Taliban and that CF are the only real problem. There is definitely a negative attitude toward CF and anything having to do with GIRoA and there has been every time I have been there. We did search the entire hospital, because we did not know if there was a hostile force there guarding the TB Commander or if the people at the hospital were being forced to hide the aforementioned commander.

We apologized several times to each group we spoke with in the clinic for waking them up and disturbing their evening. We also explained that we were there only to ensure they were safe and to remove a criminal. Before we left the clinic staff admitted that they had in fact treated the Taliban CDR and that he had been moved to Kabul. We told them that we understood that they should treat all injured people as that is what we all expect of health care professionals.

An OCCP tip line card was left with the staff and CF expressed concern over the FHI incident earlier in the year and that the TIP line could be called if contracted Afghan security elements were mistreating the Clinic staff as well as reporting the location of criminals and enemy fighters. The CF and ANP element then told the clinic that they would repair the broken locks and that they would return at more convenient time of day to coordinate this.

The information for the Afghan article was taken from an area and a group of people who have negative attitudes toward GIRoA and ISAF regardless of how much we try to help them and regardless of what aid we offer."

Respectfully,

James Peck

1LT, IN
10:10 September 8, 2009 by Nutcracker
buggagump: Thanks for your efforts which should have been done by the staff of The Local but then, I agree with you, unbiased, professional journalism is dead which is why the internet has replaced newspapers. One still has to ferret through the dross out on the internet, as the hysterical rantings of some on these threads confirms. From personal experience, I would confirm that terrorists do violate what should be the neutral nature of hospitals, sometimes disguising themselves as medical staff or families of patients, also using ambulances for transporting themselves and their weaponry (this latter especially puts all genuine relief operations at deadly risk) and of using hospitals to store ammunition in the cynical knowledge that, if attacked the innocent casualties will be greater and so will the 'publicity' value to the terrorists propaganda machine.
11:57 September 8, 2009 by napoleon
Good morning everyone.

How nice is to write and make statements behind our confortable desk in the peace of our home.

Has any of us being in war, in a estate of terror weather you kill or will be killed , there is no option.
15:34 September 8, 2009 by Moshe
napoleon,

Even Napoleon sat in his quarters while his French army fought
20:00 September 8, 2009 by Tony Ryals
What's your point Rick Methven? Are you making threats to me the way other zionazis have to Bildt re being 'afraid' for some reason to go to Israel ?

It appears my observation was correct.The Swedish hosiptal workers were victims of U.S.fascism and yet German and Swedish soldiers are victims just as are American men and women whose economic condtions(wage slaves and no jobs at home) in America have led them into also being victims and turning them into murderers.This will not be good when they return and U.S.families have been destroyed all because Israeli government connected money launderers Menachem Atzmon and his ex Israeli military goons were too busy defrauding and laundering money offshore to guard Logan Airport Boston.

Israelis ARE whites or Europoids NOT 'semites'(a darker complected form of Caucasoid) and show the effect of ancestral Vitamin D deficiency from planting grains brought from the Tigris Euphrates and or Anatolia after the ice age and carried to east of the Baltic,Ukraine,etc.,which caused their darker children to be stressed by Vitamin D deficiency and only lighter skinned babies survived to reproductive age. I use the term Europoid to describe these Vitamin D DEFICIENCY STRESSED CAUCASOIDS and conclude that most all those in Israel who call themselves 'semites' show this past ancestral Vitamin D deficiency and thus could not have been in Jerusalem to have even met a 'jesus' even if he ever existed.'White semites' didn't even exist at that time and have no historic claim to Jerusalem,etc..

But that's where you live isn't it ? In a world where white folks are 'semites' and semites or Arabs are.... well you tell us what are your Arab neighbors are if not the REAL semites you in your delusions can't accept.And it was the destruction of Iraq caused by Israeli war and stock crime that allowed those planes to leave Logan and crsh into the WTC in NYC in the first place. ¿Capische? And the head of the gang, Menachem Atzmon was convicted of money laundering for Benjimin Netenyahu's Likud Party and that's how Swedes got into Afghanistan in the first place.

Paradoxical that rape of Iraq will probably cause Aramaic,the real language of Jerusalem in Jesus' time to go extinct.But if you can't even remember how we got into Afghanistan I doubt you are capable of grasping history dating a few hundred much less a few thousand years back....
02:46 September 9, 2009 by lingonberrie
The unfortunate fact of this abysmal matter is that the troops that were involved int this criminal behaviour wwere troops from the 10th Mountain Division.

The 10th Mountain Division has an illustrious history in the Second World War, and specifically in Italy, where over 5000 of their comrades lie in the American Military Cemetary outside of Florence, Italy.

I was invited by those surviving 10th Mountain

Division WWII veterans to sit with them when they had a reunion to re-visit their comrades on their Memorial Day at that resting place in 2000.

What a shame that these present-day criminals who call themselves soldiers carry the name of the 10th Mountain Division and wear the honored patch of the same.

Those who sit behind their desks and critisise those serving vets who write here do not have a clue about the real world. I suggest that you learn to keep your mouths shut until you have earned the right to comment on a blog that concerns military operatons.

I served in the military before most of you who are running at the mouth here were born.

Your are a disgrace to your country.
06:53 September 9, 2009 by Tony Ryals
While we obviously have a lot of wingnuts military or not I certainly don't post here because it is some knind of 'blog that concerns military operatons'. In fact from my point of view the topic is about people who have been or claim to have been abused by the U.S. military and because I have had plenty of experience though not military with the government that operates that military the claims of the Swedish run hosspital workers is VERY believable to me.I even believe Mai Lai happened in Viet Nam and that napalm used against innocent civilians and agent orange or 2,4-d and 2,4,5-T were war crimes.But then I even believe Israel military dropping phosphorus bombs on Palestinians is a war crime.Am I wrong? I don't think so.

The idea we as Americans are taught is that these soldiers fight so we may have basic liberties such as free speech and freedom from tyrany,no ? So you are wrong one somehow has to 'earned the right to comment on a blog that concerns military operatons. ' That is one wingnutty idea that violates all supposedly the U.S. military is fighting for and in fact they are fighting for all the wrong reasons now just as in Viet Nam.

I can't believe you said that dingleberrie.

But like you I definitely believe,'The unfortunate fact of this abysmal matter is that the troops that were involved in this criminal behaviour were troops from the 10th Mountain Division.' They should be looking for Menachem Atzmon and the I srealis who 'guarded' Logan Airport Boston on 9/11 as well as Marvin Bush,Mishal Al Sabah and Wirt Walker III among others rather than killing and getting killed for nothing in Afghanistan.Did you know that Osama bin Laden isn't even on the FBI's top 10 most wanted for 9/11 for lack of proof !?

I say those concerned about the Swedish and or Afghanetc.hospital staff are more deserving of commenting and informing here than the wingnuts with or without military experience here who would probably scare them or their sympathisers away particularly after their very real experiences with the terrorists of,'the 10th Mountain Division.' I

In conclusion while anyone can post here due to the courtesy of thelocal and their repect for their country Sweden's 1766 law to that respect that predates the U.S.Constitution that in theory allows the same right - this is NOT a military

service website and no ionwe has to have been in a military or even have any respect for anyones military to do so ! And no one has to salute anyones flag. ¿Capische?
15:15 September 9, 2009 by Rick Methven
@lingonberrie

Well said, I looked up the 10th Mountain Division and read of their history and losses during WW11.

In WW11 and in the reconstruction of Europe after the war US troops did a fantastic job that the world can thank them for. US soldiers where humane and caring. The only bitch that we brits had was they married the prettiest girls!

The change to a gung ho attitude has come about through the 8 years of the Bush administration. With the attitude of " If your not with us, your against us" which has lead to an arrogant belief that US forces can kick the sh*t out of anybody and justify it by saying - they where terrorists.

I have a great hope that the Obama administration will turn things around and that the US Army will once again regain the respect in the world that they had when I was young. It will however take time for this to happen. Change never happens overnight.

@Tony Ryals

My remark was that the rambling way you where writing in a previous post in this thread seemed to suggest that you must have been smoking something !!

If you read by other posts in TL you will see that I am certainly not Jewish or a Zionist in fact I am very much anti-Zionist.
18:56 September 9, 2009 by Tony Ryals
Well ,by Rick Methven,I have indeed recieved all sorts of threats on penny stock message boards and on thesanitycheck

by a Robert Maheu and I believe James Dale Davidson(founder

of Steve Forbes NTU or National Taxpayers Union)and thus Patrick Byrne spoiled aging son of billionaire Jack Byrne of Geico.Also from a jerk connected with ex Israeli PM Ehud Olmert by way of British Israeli Michael Zwebner who claimed

to manufacture 'air water machines' outside Jerusalem but was really only pumping and dumping worthless U.S.penny stocks and laundering the money.You can google wolfblitzzer0 and find on law.com that my posting led Zwebner to sue Wolf Blitzer and CNN for $100 million in Florida.

It is due to my own defraudation that I was led to the connection between Israeli connected U.S.stock frauds and

9/11 among other things.I believe it is you who is pretty spaced out because if you had any real criticism or dispute with anything I say or I get it wrong you can focus on that one specific area and I will reply to that one specific area.

I don't accuse you of being involved with the Afghan heroine trade do I ? You shouldn't go around in light of U.S. facism and death threats I have received and star threatening someone iss about to break down my doors or do me harm which is exactly what you did you old fart.
19:33 September 9, 2009 by Tony Ryals
And speaking of 'bitches' how's your Lard William Rees-Mogg doing Rick Methven ? He is part of the James Dale Davidson connected penny stock fraud and money laundering ops called Agora Inc of Baltimore and the world internet.He should be in jail for his penny stock frauds alone and his LOM of Bermuda connections.

Note in my rush to reply above I failed to say the threats and lies about me on thesanity check.con that promotes the lie that scams such as Northern Rock and Taser stun gun shares are victims of so-called 'naked short selling' come from a Bud Burrel whose was involved not only with deceased Robrt Maheu of Castro assassination fame but with a Brit, Peter Taylor, and his Belladorgroup of Kuala Lumpur.I have suspected an M15 or M16 connection.This was a fraud created by Dale Davidson co-author with you Lard Rees-Mogg in 2002 to cover up pump and dump money laundering through LOM of Bermnuda that Davidson and your Lrad are both major shareholders of.

And now Carl Levin who I was praised for his claim to be investigating offshore accounts is in fact aiding the lie that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were ha - 'naked shorted.

And no they didn't 'smoke something funnny' - they are aiding international fraud against investors in those stocks...

Note I change Bud Burrell's deth threat to me to Arlen Magic Bullet Specter's name.They have no complaint because they kmnow the fraud they are aiding that includes Brits.

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/senator-carl-l...ssassination-th

Senator Carl Levin's,Arlen Specter's 'Naked Short Fannie Mae Theory' vs JFK 'Magic Bullet' Assassination Theory

Note James Dale Davidson quoted above is founder of National Taxpayers Union of Alexandria, Virgina,(just a few blocks from Mary Schapiro's Securities Exchange Commission or SEC) and VERY Beltway connected.

He has hinted at money laundering for Bill Clinton and addressed Congress many times before that as president of National Taxpayers Union that he founded in 1969.He eventually turned on Clinton with billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife of Pennsylvania and accuses him of killing Vince Foster.So like Robert Maheu mentioned below Arlen 'Magic

Bullet' Specter as well as Carl 'Naked Shorts' Levin probably know him...

I wonder if Carl Levin and Arlen 'Magic Bullet'Specter can tell us how to say 'naked shorting' or 'naked short selling' in Hebrew and how long it has been a problem on the Israeli TASE stock market or is this fraudulent term used by right wing Beltway protected scum like Steve Forbes National Taxpayers Union founder James Dale Davidson only used by Israelis in the U.S. to take attention from their illegal pump and dump money laundering scams against Americans !?

I actually posed the question of how to say 'naked shorting' in Arabic in 2006 when Al Jazeera began promoting the rumor...
23:43 September 9, 2009 by lingonberrie
You run at the mouth like a city sewer, and any country that you represent would be ashamed to consider you a citizen.

Each time that you blog here, your sanity and your credibility takes a hit. Are you sure that you are not a part of the problems that you outline, rather than someone who is pointing out those problems?

You have the maturity of a ten year old.
02:39 September 10, 2009 by Tony Ryals
dingleberry,

I was thinking the same thing myself about the lard rees-mogg's subject Rick Methven and your and Barck Osama's and Rahm Emanuel's 10th Mountain Division.Of course the soldiers of the 10th Mountain Division deserve a little more sympathy

because they are victims of war fraud themselves and must put food in their mouths and their families.And just as elite war

frauds such as the OSS who became the CIA profited and looted and raped and robbed using them as their personal army in WWII

so it continues.

And you like the penny stock stock Lard William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson and Bill Bonner and their Agora Inc penny stock dumping 'company' do you ? Then why don't you go post on their fraudulent thedailyreckoning.con sites rather than spreading your excrement here ? You like fraud and you like the scumbag Sheik Mohamed of Dubai holding major interest in

the Swedish OMX and former U.S.NASDAQ even though or because his 'country' sent at least $175,000 to Mohamed Atta at Jeb Bush pal's Wally Hilliard Huffman Aviation terrorist flight scholl pre 911.Well,I don't.......
19:45 September 10, 2009 by Tony Ryals
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5110.shtml

Israel and U.S. jointly target Sweden in propaganda blitzkrieg

By Wayne Madsen

Online Journal Contributing Writer

Sep 10, 2009, 00:20

(WMR) -- After the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet published an expose of the Israeli Defense Forces harvesting the organs from young Palestinians killed by its forces in the West Bank, Israel’s propaganda machine, which has its tentacles in the world’s largest media companies and the Pentagon, went to work on demonizing Sweden....

The Israeli-influenced media are reporting that the “Arctic Sea” consorted with organized crime elements in Kaliningard to effect the transfer of the missiles. However, the Israelis are not commenting on reports that the “Arctic Sea’s” hijackers, ethnic Russians from Russia, Latvia, and Estonia, have been linked to “Mishpucka” (Jewish mafia) circles in Eastern Europe. Israel is obviously concerned that their role in the ship’s hijacking will come out in the Moscow trial of their eight organized crime-linked hijackers and shine a light on the close connections between the Mossad and the Mishpucka in Eastern Europe.

The hijackers have been identified as Estonian nationals and residents Yevgeniy Mironov, Aleksey Buleyev, Dmitriy Bartenev, Igor Borisov, Andrey Lunev and Aleksey Andryushin, and Latvian residents Vitaliy Lepin and Dmitriy Savin.

Sweden and Finland, in addition to having no desire to join NATO, have also voiced sympathy for the plight

of the Palestinians. Aftonbladet and Sweden were accused of being “anti-Semitic,” a familiar mantra from the Israelis when their human rights policies are criticized. The Swedish government rejected a demand by Israeli expansionist Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to condemn the Aftonbladet report on organ harveting and trafficking by the Israelis.

Israel’s ambassador in Stockholm, Benny Dagan, when asked by a Swedish reporter why Israel did not investigate the Aftonbladet report on organ harvesting, replied with an unusual answer: “Why don’t we investigate why the Mossad and the Jews were behind the bombing of the twin towers?”..

Israel turned up the heat on Sweden. Aftonbladet’s editor Jan Helin was accused of being a “Nazi.” Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt was disinvited from visiting Israel.

Israeli and American Jewish right-wing commentators have hurled contempt on the Celtic and Nordic nations, regardless of their liberal and social democratic traditions, complaining that they are all rife with anti-Semites and support terrorism. The Celtics and Nordics got a taste from the Israelis of what is usually dished out to the Slavics. Sweden came in for the most abuse from the Israeli propaganda circles.

It should come as no surprise that of all the charities operating in the Kabul region, that it was a Swedish charity-run hospital in Shaniz, south of the Afghan capital, that was stormed by U.S. troops on September 6.
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