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Bildt on hand to welcome deported Swedes

Bildt on hand to welcome deported Swedes

Published: 03 Jun 2010 08:25 GMT+02:00
Updated: 03 Jun 2010 08:25 GMT+02:00

Sweden's foreign minister was at Istanbul airport in the early hours of Thursday morning to assist Swedes deported following their participation in the Gaza aid convoy.

The plane carrying the remaining seven Swedes who had been in custody in Israel arrived in Istanbul at around 3am on Thursday morning and Bildt and embassy staff were on hand to help.

"There were a lot of practical issues about baggage, things which had been taken from them, and then the onward journey home, but we also had a chance to talk about it and what they had been through," Bildt wrote on his blog, Alla Dessa Dagar.

The foreign minister praised the Turkish authorities for their work in bringing the Swedes home.

"We can thank the close cooperation with the Turkish government for the fact that it has gone fast. We have very positive and close links.

But Bildt warned that the issue remains a long way from a resolution and much remained to be done.

"First and foremost their possessions need to be returned, but then the political takes over. I will first open a dialogue with my foreign ministry colleagues around Europe over the demands which must be made for an independent investigation."

The issue is set to be raise at the upcoming meeting of foreign ministers in Luxembourg on June 14th, Bildt said adding that the discussion will lead to the larger question of the blockade of Gaza.

Carl Bildt declined to clarify whether sanctions were planned against Israel following the attacks on the convoy which have so far claimed nine lives, with dozens more injured.

"Israel has been hit pretty hard by what has happened. They have created themselves a massive political problem - their key relationship with Turkey is in the balance, as well as relations with the EU," Bildt said.

TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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09:26 June 3, 2010 by J Jack
Doesn't anyone see how embarrassing this picture is? They should be mourning their lost brothers rather than celebrating their freedom and moaning about their pilfered possessions. I hope my half Swedish kids never meet these irresponsible morons.
09:28 June 3, 2010 by Kronaboy
You know I wish this Bildt guy would join the Socialists, I would really like to vote for him.
09:32 June 3, 2010 by flintis
Bildt & the Swedish gov are two faced & hypocrites.

Cuddling up to the Turks instead of denouncing the Turkish gov for their atrocities against the Kurds.
09:41 June 3, 2010 by olive_tree
Welcome back, and looking to see Gaza free soon.

@jack: I think they have cried their friends already, and the best way

to show respect to their friends is to make their cause succeed.
10:04 June 3, 2010 by mysticbumwipe
My increasing respect goes to Carl Bildt.

I am so glad that Swedish politicians are talking about taking some constructive and punitive action against Israel's illegal and brutal activities.

And about bringing an end to this illegal blockade of collective punishment.

Great news. Hopefully these tragic and unnecessary murders by Israel will have some positive outcome for the suffering being inflicted in Gaza.

What a contrast with this statement fromBildt and the weasly, weak words from the UK and the USA of "REGRET" and "CONCERN" only.
10:37 June 3, 2010 by Nemesis
Carl Bildt is an idiot who is backing himself into a corner in which he will be painted as a nazi in the long run.

Bildt is playing populist games. Once Sweden goes down that road, after a while it will create problems for Sweden as well.
10:44 June 3, 2010 by Michael84
Such a support is acclaimed
11:10 June 3, 2010 by boby
Nice picture..... Swedish government and a group of terrorists

Bildt and the other nazi morons in the Swedish governemnt are now hounorable members in the axis of evil
11:14 June 3, 2010 by rufus.t.firefly
I think the leaders of countries, like Sweden and most of Europe, with long histories of anti-Jewish actions, overt and covert, should probably stay out this. No matter what their cover story, or how they couch it, it is part and parcel of an unbroken chain of animosity, baiting, and murder that is historical. The same tired old slanders and accusations just keep recirculating- a Dragon chasing its tail.

I am a Jew living in Sweden who, for no reason, is constantly beseiged with hateful speech re: Jews and Israel, where I've never been. It seems there is so much BS going on everywhere, that the obcessive focus on Israel is extremely disproportionate. I'm pretty sure if Israel were not a Jewish state, it would get far less attention. As to the arguments against its status as such; Sweden's flag has a cross signifying a Christian state- it has an official church. Many countries around the world are either like Sweden or actual theocracies. Only with Israel, a Jewish state, are all kinds of arguments employed cynically opposing its existence on these grounds.

If Sweden (happily, a relatively peaceful place), for example, were the frequent recipient of missles from Norway into Dalarna, and those missles were being shipped to Norway for that specific purpose by some third party, I'm guessing Sweden might consider some kind of seaborn interdiction. Most likely, though, NATO, the EU, or some other body would summarily end it.
11:17 June 3, 2010 by Kevin Harris
Many posters here clearly have absolutely no idea how the international community feels about this affair. Across the globe, politicians and newspaper editors are registering their disgust.

When you guys finally face up to the fact that Israel hasn't got any friends anymore, you are all going to have to ask yourselves why, and what the consequences will be. Those questions are being examined in Israel right now.

I think you are all terrified of the answer, and so you should be. A friendless Israel is unsustainable, and you know it. You are lashing out (#1 #3 #6), and your desperate fear is in these posts for all to see.

Posters here, and Israel itself, had better learn how to behave soon, or your many enemies (and you made a brand new one on Monday - Turkey) will turn on you again, and your few remaining friends (you lost a whole lot more on Monday) will abandon you.
11:38 June 3, 2010 by Mackan2017
Carl Bildt, a nazi??? Grow-up, Nemesis, he has more anti-nazi credentials than you could ever dream of having.

With the Dubai & Gaza Flotilla incidents, Israel has finally confirmed itself to be the murderous, rogue nation that the vast majority of people worldwide know it is. Only buffoons like you would sucker for its pathetic PR-line.

As has already been said: Israel will deserve everything that comes to it over the next few years. And we'll all have smug grins on our faces when it comes about.
11:42 June 3, 2010 by Beavis
Wait just one minute here, didnt the government announce it was no longer going to pay for Swedes caught up abroad to be given assistance? So if you or I are genuinely caught up in a disaster (eg in Guatemala) your on your own and wont get any help, but if your an idiot and get on "peace ship" funded by an islamic terrorists heading towards a known dangerzone its ok? Bildt is an idiot who should have been fired a long time ago, hes the "weakest link" in the current government. If these people were dumb enough to get on a ship with known terrorist of the islamic and IRA variety they should be left to fend for themselves and give no assitance.
11:48 June 3, 2010 by Luckystrike
@Mysticbumwipe (Odd name)

"My increasing respect goes to Carl Bildt.

I am so glad that Swedish politicians are talking about taking some constructive and punitive action against Israel's illegal and brutal activities.

And about bringing an end to this illegal blockade of collective punishment.

Great news. Hopefully these tragic and unnecessary murders by Israel will have some positive outcome for the suffering being inflicted in Gaza.

What a contrast with this statement fromBildt and the weasly, weak words from the UK and the USA of "REGRET" and "CONCERN" only."

I could not have said it better!!
12:11 June 3, 2010 by Nemesis
@ Beavis

I agree 100%.

The idiots on the ships from Ireland are of the 32 soverignty organisation and the RIRA, both of whom are opposed to the peace process in Northern Ireland. Not exactly peace activists. Also there is morons from Eamon Mac Canns Socialist worker Party, whom I can only describe as a bunch of dope smoking parasites. They are actually more screwed up than Sein Fein or the DUP, which I assume is deliberate on there part.

This is purely to create trouble. Those activists have created a lot of trouble in Northern Ireland and are now spreading it to the middle east.

I am also worried that this will get into people's heads that Irish are all insane and stupid. It took years of mostly economic sucess to get people to stop calling people thick paddies. Now it looks like going back to that. That is the real damage from an Irish point of view.
12:32 June 3, 2010 by flintis
@ Kevin Harris,

# "how the international community feels"#, they don't care how we feel.

The fact is they're all hypocrites, not a word about the atrocities in the Sudan, Turkey, West Africa. Even worse is condoning the actions of these so called "peaceful activists".
12:34 June 3, 2010 by bbeynch
Bildt ought to be ashamed to be seen with this pack of marxists, socialists and anarchists, and other societally destructive "ists", and should definitely not burst into song. Let's speculate for a moment, if we were to guess how this malodorous, reducto-ad-hitlerum, lot, with their selective racism, voted in the last election, from left to right. Could someone please provide the scoop? - May they all marinate in their own vile hatred.
12:39 June 3, 2010 by me_i_sverige
Swedish politicians are playing double-standard game. On one hand they praise these so-called demonstrators and on the other hand does not do anything for the atrocities done by Turkey against Kurds. When Turkey recently bombed Kurdish people on a soverign-state (Iraq), where was Bildt or Swedish government. This vote game would not do a good thing to Swedes in the future.
12:40 June 3, 2010 by Kevin Harris
#Boby

"the vase majority of the world is with Israel" sic

Can you link me one independant newpaper editorial, or one speech from an independant politician that "is with Israel" on this issue?
12:48 June 3, 2010 by Kronaboy
The first reports from the news reporters on board the Turkish Ship are coming in, it transpires the first person to be shot was a Turk attempting to fend off (with water from a water hose) IDF forces boarding by boat, he was shot in the arm. The first Turk to be shot dead, was shot directly in the top of his skull, apparently IDF forces pointed their weapons from port holes in the helicopter and randomly sprayed the deck. So contrary to IDF claims, the actual shooting started before the first solider illegally landed on Turkish soil. Apparently one of the Turks who was throwing tomatoes at IDF was first shot and then while lying helpless on the deck murdered with shot to the head. I also understand 3 of dead died on board 3 hours after they were shot despite demands by the Captain they be medi vaced.
12:55 June 3, 2010 by Snoozer
It's funny. None of those people who were on the flotilla would ever dream of voting for Carl Bildt.
12:57 June 3, 2010 by flintis
@Kevin Harris

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/01/israel-no-choice-gaza-flotilla

@Kronaboy:- same as on the other thread http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/194026 shows they're lying
12:58 June 3, 2010 by pintoflex
Yep. Bildt has it's tongue deep in the Muslims voters arse.

And all those kind words towards Turkey.... has anyone forgot why they are still not part of the EU?
13:35 June 3, 2010 by Hagrid
@Kevin Harris - "Can you link me one independant newpaper editorial, or one speech from an independant politician that "is with Israel" on this issue?"

I would gladly answer on behalf of boby. Here are a few editorials

From National Review:

http://article.nationalreview.com/435253/flotillas-and-falsehoods/mona-charen

and more importantly, the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/opinion/02friedman.html

There were many other links I wanted to give here (from places like Fox, Daily News, the Australian, and others), but the comment filter would not allow that. As for a politician supporting Israel, is the American Vice president good enough for you?
13:42 June 3, 2010 by Kronaboy
It transpires a member of the Knesset, who was on board during the armed invasion of Sovereign Turkish territory, also requested in their native language the 3 wounded Turkish Civilians (who were left to die of their wounds) be given medical assistance.
13:55 June 3, 2010 by rumcajs
@ bbeynch "marxists, socialists and anarchists".... are you really so bloody dump? Grow up mate, really. Marxist, capitalist, Israel, USA, Russia... I don't care. I this case it happened to be Israel ( the same as if it was China ) and I strongly disagree with their actions. Blocking and smashing a whole place in every possible way just because Hamas won the elections??? So go there and take the Hamas terrorists and stop destroyiong civilian lives. Have you thought that maybe many people who are suffering there didn't even want Hamas either? What if the people from your country votes for some lunatic for some crazy reason and another country destroys your life because of that? All u can see is blue and red; black and white.... c'on dude, you're not a little child.... I guess. Well, that would explain many things.
14:04 June 3, 2010 by Audrian
One of the Europe major failings immediately before the WWII started was its belief that Hitler could appeased. Instead it emboldened him. In the end tens of millions of Europeans including Jews were wiped out. Russians with 23 million lost most. The WWII lesson does not seem to be heeded, because every time Israel is criticized, the Zionist cry it is "anti-Semitic" and Europe looks the other way. The emboldened Zionists are ethnically cleansing Palestinians by brutalizing and murdering them on daily basis.

The world body should demand more than lifting the embargo on Gaza. Israel should leave all the land it occupied in 1967 without conditions attached. This is the recognized boarder and it should be respected without conditions. The US government is part of the problem and people of Europe and the US should boycott Israeli goods until it gives Palestenians their independence.
14:06 June 3, 2010 by dew_pansy
I suggest to everyone in the blog to write TERRORIST ISRAEL instead of just writing Israel whenever u want to write name of Israel. Thanks
14:10 June 3, 2010 by Audrian
One of the Europe major failings immediately before the WWII started was its belief that Hitler could appeased. Instead it emboldened him. In the end tens of millions of Europeans including Jews were wiped out. Russians with 23 million lost most. The WWII lesson does not seem to be heeded, because every time Israel is criticized, the Zionist cry it is "anti-Semitic" and Europe looks the other way. The emboldened Zionists are ethnically cleansing Palestinians by brutalizing and murdering them on daily basis.

The world body should demand more than lifting the embargo on Gaza. Israel should leave all the land it occupied in 1967 without conditions attached. The US government is part of the problem.

We the people of Europe and the US should boycott Israeli goods until it gives Palestinians their independence or allows Palestinians to vote in united Israel-Palestinian country, where religion of both nations is banished from politics for good.
14:22 June 3, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
For all you know the Messiah is here or soon here.

Preliminary questions for Mr.Bildt:

http://www.israpundit.com/

It's significant that the day after Yom Kippur is Election Day in Sweden .Till then, nearly all the political parties from the Left thru the Centre, to the Right, are hustling for the Muslim vote.

At this stage it even looks like Islamic Turkey now has more than one leg into the EU( the Old Roman Empire). At least Mr. Bildt who unlike Germany & the Vatican, is already a strong supporter for their entry into the European Union has now found more common ground with his Turkish partners and their number one priority seems to be, not Afghanistan, or Iran or Pakistan or even North Korea. Their number one priority - do or die , seems to be, not Israel but Hamas' Gaza. Mr. Bildt was not weeping as heavily when Hamas was exterminating Fatah before taking over the Gaza from which Ariel Sharon had removed the last Jewish "settler"- after which Palestinian rockets rained down on Sederot and environs for eight long years, without interruption.

With all the talk about AID, where is Gunilla Carlsson? How come we don't hear her voice?

"But Bildt warned that the issue remains a long way from a resolution and much remained to be done."?

Indeed for Sweden's most active Foreign Minister Carl Bildt this is not a time for making understatements considering the kinds of noises coming from the United Arab League today - and the new wave of enthusiasm that has seized Terrorist Hamas supporters:

http://www.memri.org/content/en/main.htm
14:40 June 3, 2010 by calebian22
Israel will not be alone. The US will be there to support it. Obama knows that turning against Israel will guarantee a loss in 2012 due to more support for Israel among the voters. This is why weak responses on this incident are all that are heard from Washington. Obama has been linked to pro Palestinian rallies in the past. As his ambitions for higher office proceeded, his views changed to be supportive of Israel because of the greater support for Israel rather than the Palestinians. Obama knows his political future is linked with continued support for Israel, even if he feels differently about Israel on a personal level.
14:54 June 3, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Mysticbumwipe, Herr Harris, Kronaboy,

There's an article in Arutz Sheva about "The Helsinki Principle" which must interest you and all the others who question the necessity and the legality of Israel's actions at sea - as if the flotilla was about to suffer a change of mind and reverse discretion, head back to from whence they came:

http://www.freeman.org/other.htm
14:54 June 3, 2010 by c9dw2rm82
This is the What the Sweden FM doing ?

Probably Sweden is very Cold ?& boring place !

Taking pictures with some Islamofascists & Collaborators !
15:05 June 3, 2010 by bongo8
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/dont-fall-for-islamist-hype/story-e6frfhqf-1225874185912
15:15 June 3, 2010 by Rick Methven
A post mortem has been carried out on the 9 that where killed. The dead include a 19-year-old Turkish citizen with an American passport - who was hit by four bullets in the head.

Now you Israeli loving asholes, can you tell me how that could ever be construed as self defence?

The IDF is the biggest terrorist organisation going.

I suppose the families of those killed should be grateful that they got the bodies back with their organs intact
15:19 June 3, 2010 by sherkovic
welcome home! Humanity and Sweden both are proud of you. Way ta'go!
15:22 June 3, 2010 by saab
@10 KevinHarris. You state: "Posters here, and Israel itself, had better learn how to behave soon, or your many enemies (and you made a brand new one on Monday - Turkey) will turn on you again, and your few remaining friends (you lost a whole lot more on Monday) will abandon you"

So, are you King of the World now, threatening Isreael and folks like me and J Jack, Hagrid and bbeynch?? Posters should "behave soon"? Are you the hall monitor, judge, jury, and executioner? I guess the lesson here is.... don't cross Kev. And don't express yourself. So sayeth the Oracle of TheLocal.se, a wholely owned subsidiary of the far political left and Muslim radical right.

@27 Dew_Pansy. Thanks for the suggestion. Nice to see you living up to your name. I favor "Gutless Sweden" and "Cowardly Bildt"

@30 calebian22. US Jews are 2% of the population and voted 78% for Obama in 2008. You think the Dems are scared of them? Your math does not compute. James Baker once said (during Bush-I) that he did not care about Jews being angry with Bush policies because they vote Democratic anyway. So, Obama the Muslim is siding with Israel (odd accusation as he cancelled a visit by Netanyahu and has said nothing important publicly)?
15:22 June 3, 2010 by bongo8
@Rick Methven do you believe your own crap?

post mortum results.. they just received the body?
15:56 June 3, 2010 by boby
I think its funny that all of you are clinging to political resons when you try to explain why Israel is being backed by the western world.

The real reason is that Israel is a true and natural pertner to the west. Its calture, values and politics are western. It is in the front line of technological developments, almost all the leading technological companies in the world have development centers in Israel. Sure, the media does not reflect this, as it is controlled by left islamo-fachists, like it has been always. But fact is, thet Israel is strongly backed by the west for the last 65 years, and will it will continue to be supported the same way.

I find it funny that all these islamo fachists like Kevin are naive enough to think that something is going to change in their favour. After 65 years one could imagine that they should learn and drop the dream of destroying Israel.
15:57 June 3, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg
http://www.google.com/search?hl=sv&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK257&q=Terrorist+Organisations

Just the past week or any week you read the news coming in from Jamaica, the Congo, trouble spots in South America, East Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, bombings in mosques, bazaars, market places, hospitals and you smell the stench of death right where you are.

No one is happy about the deaths that have occurred.

Still, Israel is one of the few countries in the Middle East and environs,where medical attention is given even to enemy combatants. "Warrior" the autobiography of Ariel Sharon opens in Egypt with the Israeli soldiers giving water to the Egyptian soldiers who were almost dying of thirst, right there in the desert ). In Israel autopsies are conducted, people are identified, bodies buried, not just bundled in mass graves.

During the suicide-bomber Initifadas you'd have bodies blown into splinters of bone and unidentifiable bits and pieces of scattered flesh and blood and you'd see personnel of the Magen David Adom, collecting every little piece of flesh, for the last rites and the honour accorded the dead : a proper burial.

When Mattias Gardell and his wife were still unaccounted for my fear was that they had been thrown overboard.....a possible fate for those who die at sea......

Some insight into the life of an Israeli soldier:

http://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Autobiography-Ariel-Sharon/dp/074322566X
16:02 June 3, 2010 by Avidror
Why is everybody telling that being lynched, clubbed and stabbed does not justify to use firearms in order to protect yourself? When the European Union's Summit was held in Gothenburg in 2001, Swedish police officers used their firearms against demonstrators at the Vasaplatsen, precisely because they were about to be lynched, clubbed and stabbed by violent demonstrators.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_during_the_EU_summit_in_Gothenburg_2001#The_shootings_at_Vasaplatsen

What is valid for a Swedish police officer is also valid for an Israeli soldier.
16:10 June 3, 2010 by Hindustani786
Rick Methven

HATS OFF for your COMMENT 34 :D

"As a JEW I am ashamed" : BARNEY FRANK!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/barney-frank-as-a-jew-ashamed_n_597331.html

"VATICAN" CALLS ISRAEL OCCUPATION 'IN JUSTICE'

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/israeli-occupation-unjust-says-vatican/story-e6frfku0-1225874281780
16:13 June 3, 2010 by mysticbumwipe
Dear Avidror,

Are you at all concerned for the proper and unbiased application of International law?

If you are then I ask you to stand up for the law, regardless of who is transgressing it.

The commandos had no legal right to board the ship in the first place.

Plus all the eye-witnesses are saying the same thing that shootings by the Israelis occurred BEFORE the commandos illegally boarded the ship.

This is a very serious transgression by Israel that al these pathetic and immoral attempts to paint the commandos as the victims will not assuage.

"NATO HQ in Brussels is today a very unhappy place. There is a strong understanding among the various national militaries that an attack by Israel on a NATO member flagged ship in international waters is an event to which NATO is obliged - legally obliged, as a matter of treaty - to react.

I must be plain - nobody wants or expects military action against Israel. But there is an uneasy recognition that in theory that ought to be on the table, and that NATO is obliged to do something robust to defend Turkey." craig Murray
16:26 June 3, 2010 by Rick Methven
@bongo8

Postmortems have been carried out before the funerals which are now going on. Bodies where recieved 24 hours ago. look at the BBC.

I can sympathise with Jews posting here they have a problem as this Rabbi said in a piece in the Guardian.

The Israeli assault on the Gaza flotilla will make waves that extend far beyond the Mediterranean coastline where the bloody events took place. And those waves will reach me, my community and then all of us.

The first wave will touch me as a Jew (and a rabbi to boot) because there is an assumption that I am totally supportive of all the actions of the Israeli government and the forces that purportedly operate on its behalf. If I dare to say otherwise, I am condemned by my own community as a self-hating Jew, a sympathiser with Muslim terrorists whose only wish is to see the destruction of the state of Israel.

So with all that to look forward to it is very hard for any Jew to speak truthfully and condemn the Israeli over reaction
16:33 June 3, 2010 by flintis
@ mysticbumwipe

If these ar#eholes had complied with the Israelis requests then none of this would have occurred

Are u certain they were only flying Turkish flags?

Turkey attacking Israel!! Now that would be suicide.
16:41 June 3, 2010 by Guy with a big whang
For my terrorist loving friends, quit talking about this being "piracy" simply because:

According the the UN conventions, it's only piracy when commited by private entities. State actors are not included.

But another fact you will throw out of your numskulls of course, but worth mentioning nonetheless.
16:43 June 3, 2010 by Mackan2017
Avidror, do you really believe the garbage you spout?? How incredibly dumb are you??

The shootings in Göteborg WERE NOT the work of the Swedish Polis. Every single officer on duty that day had their firearms examined by independent forensics to find residue which would determine if they had been fired or not. Not one single weapon was found to have been fired, NONE AT ALL!! It is suspected that the shots were fired from quite some distance away, possibly from the top of a building, hence the fact they only caused comparatively minor wounds. A polis weapon fired from such close range would have caused severe internal injuries "most probably" resulting in death. You need to get your facts straight before opening your fat mouth. You're embarrassing yourself.

The Israelis that boarded the Flotilla were nothing short of a Murder Squad. Subduing unarmed rioters should be done with rubber bullets, CS gas, stun grenades and pepper spray. Not by emptying full magasines of live rounds into unarmed victims heads, and doing it in international waters to boot.

Israel - the nation of cowardly pirates.
16:44 June 3, 2010 by rymagnusson
They were protesting against the Israeli authority, why on earth would they want to comply with a government that wasn't going to remotely work in their interests?

Besides, if they gave the aid through Israel, it wouldn't make it to Gaza in full form anyway.
16:47 June 3, 2010 by Hagrid
@mysticbumwipe

"The commandos had no legal right to board the ship in the first place"

In previous posts I have meticulously proven how the seizure was legal, according to the San Remo Manual on International Law applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea. You can look it up.

"an attack by Israel on a NATO member flagged ship in international waters is an event to which NATO is obliged - legally obliged, as a matter of treaty - to react"

You mean, the same NATO who, in a totally unnecessary war a mere few years ago, indiscriminantly massacred tens of Serb civilians, making the IDF look like saints in comparison? And the same NATO who didn't do squat when a British Royal Navy vessel was seized in IRAQI waters by Iran, and its crew was abducted and embarassed?

I would take this kind of NATO with a grain of salt.
16:53 June 3, 2010 by Mackan2017
Flintis: You really do need to keep up with us, don't you?? You've conveniently (but expectedly) missed the point which the whole world is making: What right does Israel have to stop vessels 80 Miles from its shores???!!!! NONE, OF COURSE!!! It flies in the face of every international maritime convention and is, unquestionably, PIRACY!!! Israel, like any other State, has a 12-mile territorial water zone. Like the other buffoon above, Guy with a...etc, you haven't checked your facts. State players are not pirates within their own 12-mile zone....but outside that, they're pirates. Pure and simple.

And anyone who thinks that Israel would win a fight with Turkey is living in their own little dreamworld. Turkey would walk all over Israels untried & untested conscript forces, in very little time. They're far too powerful for Israel. And long may it be that way.
17:12 June 3, 2010 by Oscar28
As a human I have problems with all of you hate spreaders (both sides)

Why cant you be civilized (in your comments and ways)?

Show your points without all this hate.

We are all humans.

Jews, Muslims, Christians, even the ones that believe in the sun or in the god of coca cola.

We are all going to die at the end, every single one of us.

You are not better then me - and I am not better then you.

In the past Muslims and Jews lived happily together - for centuries!

There is a place for everybody in this planet.

We are all the same - religions are just different colors of the shirts that we are wearing.

We are made of the same DNA, we are all brothers and sisters!

If you are Palestine you are 75% related to Jewish people since you have common ancestors!

Peace Now for both sides - For all of us!

Me?

I am personally supporting the P.L.O and not Hamas since his declared goal is to Fight fight and fight the Israelis wich of course will lead to the Israelis attacking back stronger. Who will suffer? all of us. the mothers. the fathers. the kids.
17:26 June 3, 2010 by Guy with a big whang
For my terrorist loving friends, quit talking about this being "piracy" simply because:

According the the UN conventions, it's only piracy when commited by private entities. State actors are not included.

But another fact you will throw out of your numskulls of course, but worth mentioning nonetheless.
17:59 June 3, 2010 by Swedesmith
Oscar 28, I completely agree with you. As any person does, I have my opinions, but why hate those that do not share yours? If we all thought, dressed and acted the same the world would be a boring place.
19:58 June 3, 2010 by calebian22
Saab,

My math does compute when you count the evangelical Christians and many Independants who support Israel. The notion that only Jews in the US support Israel is uninformed on your part, as well as Baker's. If you don't believe me, just wait and watch the continued support of Israel by the US government. Long live Israel!
14:47 June 4, 2010 by Kronaboy
Ok Dew TERRORIST ISRAEL: http://bigbrassblog.com/media/6/20090117-i...09wikipedia.jpg

I have heard a number of people mention they wish to boycot unethical companies, may I suggest Com-Hem which is now unfortunately a part of the Carlyle group.

Peace to every one and I hope you all remember to have a wonderful weekend with your children:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/headline9637e7.jpg
11:59 June 5, 2010 by Kronaboy
TERRORIST ISRAEL:

http://palestinianvoice.files.wordpress.co...ad_children.jpg

Reports have just arrived MV Rachel Corrie has been illegally boarded by IDF fascists, may I invite all my brothers and sisters to recite a short prayer for our Martyred Sister Rachel Corrie and the 111 children poisoned while gold mining in Nigeria.

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17:21 July 16, 2010 by mikekoi
Israel is not supported in any act that is outside international law. The blockade of Gaza itself is against international law. The occupation of arab lands is against international law and the UN resolutions. Not that Israel cares as it proved when shelling the UN compounds recently. The Israeli military enquiry that found no fault with the action against the flotilla was completely predictable and so seriously wrong headed. I suggest that Israel wake up before it loses the remaining support it has. I further suggest a bit of humility and recognition of human values being of importance even if inconvenient to Israel.

Its the toll of innocents that bears more and more strongly against Israels chosen methods. These chosen to avoid a settlement with Palestine as a sovereign independent State and with Jerusalem as an Open city for Christians Jews and Muslims to worship with mutual respect (in some cases sharing) of religeous sites.
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