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Assange remanded by London court

Assange remanded by London court

Published: 07 Dec 2010 15:12 GMT+01:00
Updated: 08 Dec 2010 06:21 GMT+01:00

The elusive 39-year-old Australian said he would fight an extradition request by Swedish authorities as he appeared in court in London just hours after he emerged from a month in hiding and surrendered to police.

Filmmaker Ken Loach, socialite Jemima Khan, and campaigning journalist John Pilger each offered to put up part of his bail but a judge in London refused, saying a court would review the situation at a hearing on December 14th.

"I am satisfied that there are substantial grounds to believe that if granted bail he would fail to surrender," district judge Howard Riddle said at City of Westminster magistrates court.

The judge said the Swedish arrest warrant contains "extremely serious allegations" of molestation, unlawful coercion and rape involving two women with whom Assange had sex in Stockholm in August.

Assange had the "means and ability to abscond if he wants to," Riddle added.

The court heard Assange is accused of unlawfully coercing and sexually molesting a woman on August 14th, and of deliberately molesting her on August 18th.

A fourth allegation claims Assange had sex with a second woman on August 17th while she was asleep at her Stockholm home, and without using a condom.

The WikiLeaks boss, who has denied the charges, appeared calm and collected in court, an AFP reporter said. Wearing a navy blue suit and a white shirt without a tie, he spoke to confirm his name and address in Australia.

Speaking in Stockholm after Assange’s court appearance, the prosecutor in charge of the rape case against the WikiLeaks founder said on Tuesday she had no intention of extraditing him to the United States if he is brought to Sweden to face justice.

"I did not execute a European arrest warrant against him for him to be extradited to the United States," Marianne Ny told Swedish reporters in the western city of Gothenburg, according to the TT news agency.

"The investigation has nothing to do with WikiLeaks. This concerns him (Assange) personally," the prosecutor was also quoted as saying by the website of the Aftonbladet daily.

Britain's Metropolitan Police said earlier in a statement that officers from its extradition unit had arrested Assange on a European arrest warrant "by appointment at a London police station" at 0930 GMT.

WikiLeaks criticised the court ruling as "bizarre" and said it would release more documents later Tuesday from the cache of 250,000 confidential US diplomatic cables that it started to publish on November 28th.

"Let down by the UK justice system's bizarre decision to refuse bail to Julian Assange. But Cablegate releases continue as planned," the whistleblowing website said on its Twitter page.

Assange's Lawyer Mark Stephens told journalists outside court the allegations were "politically motivated", adding that he expected a "viral campaign" on the Internet on his client's behalf.

"We have heard the judge say he wishes to see the evidence himself. I think he was impressed by the fact that a number of people were prepared to stand up on behalf of Mr Assange and declare his innocence," he said.

Loach, Khan -- former wife of Pakistan cricket great Imran Khan and one-time girlfriend of film star Hugh Grant -- and Pilger each offered £20,000 ($31,400). Another three donors also offered a total of £120,000 between them.

Pilger told the court the case was "a travesty" and "absurd". After the hearing, he said: "This is a man who has made some very serious enemies for the best reasons."

WikiLeaks is battling to stay afloat after infuriating Washington with the release of the cables, which have revealed a string of diplomatic embarrassments from all corners of the globe.

In one of the latest leaks, US cables released Tuesday showed that NATO had extended an existing defence plan covering Poland to include Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania after they lobbied for extra protection.

The website has been forced to hop from server to server as various countries tried to close it down and hackers attacked it, though its supporters have responded by setting up hundreds of "mirror" sites to keep it online.

In a sign of Washington's satisfaction at the arrest, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates, who was visiting Afghanistan on Tuesday, said it "sounds like good news."

WikiLeaks is also coming under increased financial pressure, with Visa following in the footsteps of MasterCard and PayPal Tuesday by announcing that it was suspending all payments to WikiLeaks.

Swiss authorities shut down one of Assange's bank accounts on Monday, while a major WikiLeaks donor in Germany is in trouble for not filing its accounts on time.

WikiLeaks has already been expelled from the United States where Attorney General Eric Holder has said authorities were pursuing an "active, ongoing investigation that is criminal in nature" into the leaks.

In an opinion piece for The Australian newspaper after his arrest, Assange said the website was "fearlessly" pursuing facts in the public interest.

Meanwhile, the United States said Tuesday that the arrest of Assange is an issue between Britain and

Sweden, as Washington pursues its own investigation.

"Our investigation is ongoing. As for his arrest, it is, at this point, an issue between Britain and Sweden," State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters.

"I cannot say that the United States has been drawn into this issue this morning. This is an issue where British authorities have arrested him based on a warrant for his extradition from Sweden," Crowley said.

"What we're investigating is a crime under US law. The provision of 250,000 classified documents from someone in the government to someone outside the government is a crime," Crowley said.

"We're investigating and we will hold those responsible accountable. That investigation is still ongoing," he added.

AFP/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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15:28 December 7, 2010 by Nemesis
This is going to turn into a circus.

In UK law, the full list of allegations and surrounding circumstances, will be read out in court.

Should be interesting to see what a UK judge makes of the Swedish charges.
15:31 December 7, 2010 by Rolle
He fears political persecution and extradition to US in SWEDEN but not in BRITAIN??!! Yeah, that doesn't make much sense. I believe the prosecutors office must have some strong evidence of Assanges alleged crime, for him to stall his judicial process rather than coming alone and cleaning his name ASAP before swedish courts.
15:37 December 7, 2010 by Vitas
GB is a popular place for all sorts of crooks and terrorists (Zakayev, Berezovsky, Lugovoi, ...). Now we see how the British justice to protect an honest man.
15:42 December 7, 2010 by EtoileBrilliant
Pardon my ignorance on this subject but in any other circumstance an alleged sex crime would probably fly beneath the radar screen at Interpol. Their website says that their 6 priority areas are:

- drugs and criminal organisation

- financial and high tech crime

- tracing fugitives who threaten public safety

- public safety and terrorism

- human trafficking

- corruption

Just saying.
16:25 December 7, 2010 by Swedesmith
The thing that interests me the most about Assange is the source of his/Wikileak's funding.
17:13 December 7, 2010 by BCR
This fiasco will continue to make a mockery of the Swedish judicial system, and in future it will make genuine claims of rape more difficult to process in Sweden.

The fact that the case was closed by the Stockholm prosecutors office and subsequently reopened at the behest of a Göteborg politician is highly questionable.

Mr. Assange's lawyers have most likely decided that the UK is the best place to hear the extradition case due to the more open nature of the courts and presumably the right to a trial by jury.
17:13 December 7, 2010 by mojofat
Hmm...just to repeat for the Nth time. "Freedom of speech" does not cover the public dissemination of private information...for example, I can't hack into a bank computer and then publish everyone's account numbers. Not sure why this is hard to understand but a lot of people are confused by this.

Similarly, the constitutionally protected "freedom of speech" does not cover foreigners who indiscriminately publish stolen government documents. It really does journalism a disservice to call wikileaks journalism. There's not theme...there's no reporting...it's just a vomiting of data without any analysis. The release of the Iraq War Logs at least, arguably, had a theme to it...here, we just have a random grab bag of diplomatic gossip with zero attention paid as to whether there's a story or not. Almost as if it were purposefully antagonistic. The release IS the story, not anything pertaining to the content of the messages (i.e., no "smoking gun").

Anyway, we're still waiting for wikileaks/Assange to release their sources of funding. Transparency for all, except the morally superior wikileaks it seems.
17:36 December 7, 2010 by Luke R D
Mofofat: I'm sorry, but "transparency" and "stupidity" are two different concepts entirely. There is a difference - a very big difference - in cloak and dagger style activities of government organisations on the international scene, and publishing bank account numbers. Your argument, sir, belies any intelligence whatsoever. And yes, this "private" information you've been harping on about does concern citizens of the rest of the world, who would probably like to know what these crooks in government are up to (and no, this is not just an American-bashing exercise, but relates to most governments of the world - including my native Australian one - have a think about this, Mojofat: do you really think that any modern governments giving a flying f#@k about their citizens?).

And publishing the sources of funding for Wikileaks? Are you a moron? With governments pursuing this man like he's responsible for every bad thing that's ever gone on, why wouldn't they try and protect their funding sources for fear of "legal" pursuit on mass scale against individuals who are just damn sick of government bulls#it and just want a bit of truth?! As I said, there's a difference between "transparency" and "stupidity".

Try and read this article, if you will:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/

This is clearly a set-up, my friend (Interpol, CIA, Scotland Yard, Swedish Police and who know who else work in synergy for a man wanted over a flimsy rape charge at best?!) and in the event that your useless arguments continue, I bid you go back to sleep, brother, let your government maintain your life comfortably, and I'll meet you on the other side. Peace.
17:42 December 7, 2010 by BCR
Maybe Assange would have been better off in Canada since they already have a legal precedent for refusing extradition if there is a risk of execution, which is considered to be unconstitutional (see: United States vs. Burns, Canadian Supreme Court 2001).
17:48 December 7, 2010 by creamy
It it sure that Pippi Longstocking would have dispatched with these women long ago. These women need to be hacked. Hackers Unite.
17:50 December 7, 2010 by engsaaiqbal
There should be no ban on Freedom of speech,

all countries specially Europe and in Asia Pakistan,Afghanistan,India are the

puppets of America .

I think the Leaks are very much good and benificial in exposing the real face of

USA and there followers.

If it will continue i hope the drama of World Trade center (as the american did by themselves),Baseless attack on Iraq and Afghanistan will also exposed in front of the world,and hopefully the people will insist to draw back security forces from Afghanistan,as there is no OSAMA, He was the family friend of Bush and hope in Amirica not in Afghanistan.

The people will come to know that Amirca is doing crimes on the name of peace and killing Innocents all over the world .

For all common nationals from all over the world this is good to know the true faces of their leaders.

Wikileakes should continue to leak.......................................
17:51 December 7, 2010 by Vimo
Doesnt swedish law allow "sick" criminals like Assange to integrate into their society?

is it just that the US is controlling Sweden like they are used to control any country in order to do whatever they want?

sooo disappointed at Sweden for letting themselves be an instrument (once more) of the US.

bloody circus just to keep the world ignorant!
17:51 December 7, 2010 by BCR
Is this the women in question?

http://ardin.se/
17:59 December 7, 2010 by mibrooks27
The UK Guardian and the Mail have the best summary of this circus. The Swedish accusers look like silly mindless bimbo's, the prosecuters as insane, the Swedsh government as craven sheep doing the US government's dirty work, and Assange comes out looking like a hero.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336291/Wikileaks-Julian-Assanges-2-night-stands-spark-worldwide-hunt.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
18:06 December 7, 2010 by Terrete
Wow, Sweden's name is really being dragged through the mud today. Hard to find a journalist anywhere who doesn't think the charges are either i) completely false & fabricated for the Americans, or ii) badly mishandled by the prosecutor. Hope the prosecutor and the accuser are happy destroying Sweden's reputation for freedom and neutrality just to push their own domestic political agenda.
18:07 December 7, 2010 by princeally
America is a remote control of sweden, this is a planned deal with America goverment, i think his rape case is connected with wikileaks issues, wikileaks rocks, we need to know more about what is going on around the world.
18:26 December 7, 2010 by jbat
Yeah.. stolen govt docs that show their wrong doing.... keep i secret forever !!!

so we all can blame Muslims for all the chaos that happen in this world today, not those govts that full with liars and corrupted leaders...

simple example.. WMD? hahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (reaction from FBI and CIA agents)

Again..

Hail USA.. Hail the Yanks.. Hail the New World Order... To hell freedom of speech!

* freedom of speech only valid for the Yanks to insult Muslim and Islam all over the world!

Hail USA.. Hail the Yanks.. Hail the New World Order... To hell freedom of speech!
18:58 December 7, 2010 by free range cheese
EtoileBrilliant, Assange and everyone else involved at Wikileaks could be considered guilty of each of the first 3 offenses you list considering they're encouraging others to commit theft while obtaining documents and publishing stolen documents that potentially put others at risk.

What's with the name "wikileaks" anyway? It sounds like a STD.
19:00 December 7, 2010 by don willer
The two alleged victims, one of them the author of ' 7 steps to get legal revenge ' will get a taste of celebrity, millions of Assange's suppoerters will know both of their names, the press will know where they live, their phone numbers will be made public. It won't be pretty.
19:01 December 7, 2010 by robertweller
As an American I believe I have a right to know everything my government knows. The only exception would be plans for future military actions. Let's face it and deal with it. This all is based on the fact that most of the world feels the Afghan war is wrong. We know the Iraq war was wrong. But no one has extradited Bush or Cheney After all the lies how can anyone take the U.S. seriously. And Sweden has been involved in renditions. Lastly, Hillary Clinton gave a speech in January attacking China for suppressing Google and thus freedom of speech. I will say it again. I wish Stieg Larsson was alive.
19:17 December 7, 2010 by EtoileBrilliant
@free range cheese

I think you're missing the point. No one denies that everyone at Wikileaks could be guilty of the first three points. What we are referring to is the full force of Interpol being used to corral an individual on an alleged rape charge.
19:28 December 7, 2010 by mojofat
@LukeRD

"When the charges were first leveled in August, Gawker raised doubts that Ardin was working for the CIA.

"If anything, Ardin's outing tends to undercut Assange's conspiracy theory that one of his accusers is a major figure on Sweden's left fringe, freewheelingly indiscreet on her personal blog and, until her charges, an enthusiastic promoter of Assange's visit to the country," Gawker wrote."

That article you found so convincing of a conspiracy theory is pretty weak my friend. You also say it's obviously a "setup" by the US government; yet, you provide no evidence other than a link to someone's blog where they undercut your own claim. What's next, a link to someone's myspace page who claims 9-11 was an inside job?

"Your argument, sir, belies any intelligence whatsoever. And yes, this "private" information you've been harping on about does concern citizens of the rest of the world, who would probably like to know what these crooks in government are up to"

Ok, my argument is devoid of intelligence...yet, you fail to say why. Further, by your logic then all documents by all governments should be made public. Funny enough though, this doesn't seem to be in wikileaks' charter.

I'm not an american apologist, I want nothing more than to see Cheney/Bush tried before a world court for war crimes. But I don't see the need for dressing up anti-americanism and calling it "wikileaks"...just call it what it is. Assange clearly has a chip on his shoulder and is targeting one country, not others. As do you. Personal attacks aside, perhaps you should spend more time in the real world and less of it outside the spy novels you're clearly addicted to. You may not like the law, and personally I find it ridiculous, but it is a swedish law that he is accused of violating. Please provide us evidence of how these two, native swedish women, have been working lockstep with the US CIA in order to trap a glorified blogger on perhaps the flimsiest of charges anyone could ever be held on...where, even if found guilty, he would be facing a slap on the wrist. Please bring out your Glenn Beck chalkboard and diagram it for us and then illustrate how the big evil US empire is controlling everything in the world in order to make you look dumb in thelocal.se message board.
19:42 December 7, 2010 by free range cheese
It's funny reading comments about a U.S. orchestrated conspiracy against Assange. You can bet your a$$ the intel agencies of nearly every nation in the world has known exactly where he's been for the past few months.

If the U.S. wanted to do anything to him he already would have been found dead, hanging in a closet with his pants around his ankles. An apparent victim of auto-erotic asphyxiation gone wrong.
19:44 December 7, 2010 by Rebel
Rolee, the only question the little bald dude would ask if Obama told him to jump would be to ask how high.
19:46 December 7, 2010 by stillwatersrd
@EtoileBrilliant (#4)

Yes, Interpol's involvement is puzzling, and of course, tagging him is pointless. Wikileaks will go on. They should take care as they go though; Assange could easily become a martyr.
19:55 December 7, 2010 by locaxy
@mojofat

First of all, governments have no expectations of privacy. Information gathered with taxpayer money is NOT private. That's the whole reason it's called public affairs.

Secondly, Wikileaks did nothing wrong. The major European newspapers published the leaked documents before they were put up on Wikileaks website. Yet, these are evidently protected. Imagine the outrage if the bank accounts of Le Monde or El Pais were frozen.

This is exposing flaws in the system, in the most transparent way. There's nothing healthier than that. Security through obscurity is a pathetic attempt to hide certain things instead of building foolproof systems.

Finally, this is a milestone in human civilization. The future of the internet is at stake, right here. This is the exact same battle EFF and Pirate Parties around the world are fighting. The right to say what you damn please on the internet. I like the way the individuals are empowered by this technology, and evidently, crooks with totalitarian leanings don't. If it was up to governments, we'd live in an Orwellian world. Sadly, the sheeple doesn't engage in highly intellectual debates, and they will readily trade their inalienable freedoms for a fleeting sense of safety.

When Amazon, PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, Swiss banks (since when these bloody hypocrites start caring where the money came from? They have genocidal tyrant money in their coffers and they dare go after Assange) and the Swedish judicial system go after a person like this, it stinks conspiracy from miles around. Mike Huckabee called for Assange's execution. Palin called him a terrorist. Sweden is calling him a rapist. But this is not about the man himself. This is bigger than him, and we will fight this every way we can. Donate money to I2P, Tor and such projects to keep the internet flourishing. Information wants to be free, and the more you try to suppress it, the harder it fights back!

Peace.
20:27 December 7, 2010 by sen1492
I can't believe your justice system dear friends!

I am writing from Spain and I always put Swedish as the example of a good Europa. Not anymore. You (your system) are as bad as we are. So in the end somebody invented some crap about this guy Julian and you believe it. Didn't you have any other better charge against him? What did EEUU promise to you? Buying more Saabs? What was your price?

Unbelievable.

Another mith down. Swedish justice system is as bad or crap as ours here in Spain.

If you need people to teach you how to become corrupt we can export them. At least here, we are a bit more elegant. Lies here aren't that obvious.. like up there my friends.

Have good day.
20:30 December 7, 2010 by Garry Jones
> What we are referring to is the full force of Interpol being used to corral an individual on an alleged rape charge

FULL FORCE? Why is it that EVERYBODY wants to put a slant on this.

99% of people who back America and the UK war on terrorism have already decided Assange is guilty of rape.

99% of people who dont America and the UK war on terrorism have already decided Assange is not guilty of rape.

People, bloggers, politicians are letting their own agenda sway their view and choose their words to support their beliefs.

It is NOT the full force of Interpol..... he walked into a police station and said "nick me": That is not how full force of Interpol works. Full force of interpol would have seen the SAS absailing down his hideout, smoke bombs through the window and drag him out by the short and curlys.

As I already knew all the details of this case from flashback and posted them here on 2 september I can see the translation mistakes made in Britain today..... The charges were never dropped.

If Wikileaks did not have a politcal agenda of their own then this would not be so bad. As it is they only tell you what they want you to believe and they have made the world a more dangerous place.
20:32 December 7, 2010 by zoroastrina
The 'modern movement' pulverized any ground on which moral commandments can be conceivably founded - it undermined morality as such: responsibilities which go beyond contractual obligations, 'being for' non-reducible to 'being for oneself', values interfering with the supreme precept of maximum efficacy, ends which forbid the use of potent means (….) [such as those of a superpower or any other state pursuing its own aggressive self-interest]. (….)

The first thing to consider is the dangers which are systematically piling up as the direct, albeit unthought-of, result of the free play of means 'liberated' from goals. These dangers threaten the lives and the welfare of countless other people, distant both in space and in time, and cast in a situation which more often than not precludes all response; the danger-producing actions are as a rule uni-directional. They are not exchanges; they cannot be, therefore, limited or regulated or otherwise kept in the frame by contracts, by a mutual show of force, by negotiations or the search for consensus. (…) [T]he unwitting targets of action match Lévinas's description of the Other as weak, vulnerable, without power; they are indeed without power since they cannot repay what has been done to them (nor for that matter reward our deeds), and vulnerable since they cannot prevent us from doing whatever we think worth doing; once for all, with no hope of reversing the roles, they are stuck on the receiving side of the action in which we are the only acting subjects. (…)

The extension of responsibility which the 'risk society' needs and cannot do without except with catastrophic results cannot be argued or promoted in terms that are the most familiar and approved of in our type of society - those of fair exchange and reciprocity of benefits. Whatever else the sought morality is to be, it must be first and foremost an ethics of self-limitation (as the morality of proximity always was and had to be), [in this case the self-limitation of a superpower which reductively treats murdered civilians as "collateral damage"1 or the toxic side effects of a "just"2 war (ibid., 219-220). Current American military policy is one of the ugliest conceivable forms of the discredited philosophy of utilitarianism.

1. This is the ugliest word of the last 38 years, the first known use of which was recorded in 1972.

2. This is a word which is a sign and a signifier without an unambiguous signified.
20:37 December 7, 2010 by Toonie
Fascinating stuff. A watershed in the history of freedom of information. Sweden's contribution seems to be as reported by BBC news today:

"One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom.

Another is that he had unprotected sex with another woman, Miss W, while she was asleep."

I look forward to a rash of court cases in Sweden (or indeed all around the world) against Swedes, both male and female, involving serious charges involving 'unprotected' sex. Degrees of sleepiness during sex may also become contentious.

As to the view that Wikileaks is making private information public : there is another view. That the information is public (it's paid for by taxpayers) but is often put to use by essentially private and undeclared interests operating within governments. (The revelations of US and Spanish govt views on the relations between Putin and Berlusconi were important to know. Not for headbangers, but for democrats everywhere.) The so-called evidence used to justify the Iraq war would be another good example, but there are thousands more.

The interesting thing is that Wikileaks isn't really telling us anything we don't know about the US. That's already out there. You don't need conspiracy theories - you just need to read the serious press attentively. And that's thanks to freedom of the press in many countries. But it is telling us new stuff about those countries that hate freedom of expression and the press. It's going to be an epic struggle.
20:44 December 7, 2010 by planet.sweden
@mibrooks27

Thanks for the Daily Mail link. You're right that's a very informative article, far more so than anything I've read in the Swedish press. Whatever people may say about the Daily Mail, they know how to get the story. Absolutely superb investigative journalism from the a London based paper.
20:50 December 7, 2010 by KungsholmenGuy
Here's a frightening scenario.

Assange is held in Sweden for the next two years, and then in 2013 the US says, 'hand him over - he's a terrorist mastermind', and when Sweden refuses the B-52's are airborne. Sounds crazy until you make the substitutions: 2001, Afghanistan, and Osama Bin Laden. ;)

Unfortunately for all of us the scenario sounds a little less crazy if this were President Sarah Palin's first act in Office ... well okay maybe not the B-52's, but economic sanctions etc...
20:53 December 7, 2010 by misssh
Support him as he is innocent! this is politicly motivated and sweden are right up that arze of the yanks....

the leaks are the best think to happen because now the yanks can be seen for the terrorist that they are !!!
20:58 December 7, 2010 by duogrn
Quote #1:

"Quick question: Does Sweden go to such lengths to find all of their accused rapists?

one answer: I dunno ... ask Roman Polanski"

Quote #2

(from JA's article that went alive on TheAustralian)

But our publications have been far from unimportant. The US diplomatic cables reveal some startling facts:

► The US asked its diplomats to steal personal human material and information from UN officials and human rights groups, including DNA, fingerprints, iris scans, credit card numbers, internet passwords and ID photos, in violation of international treaties. Presumably Australian UN diplomats may be targeted, too.

► King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia asked the US to attack Iran.

► Officials in Jordan and Bahrain want Iran's nuclear program stopped by any means available.

► Britain's Iraq inquiry was fixed to protect "US interests".

► Sweden is a covert member of NATO and US intelligence sharing is kept from parliament.

► The US is playing hardball to get other countries to take freed detainees from Guantanamo Bay. Barack Obama agreed to meet the Slovenian President only if Slovenia took a prisoner. Our Pacific neighbour Kiribati was offered millions of dollars to accept detainees.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/dont-shoot-messenger-for-revealing-uncomfortable-truths/story-fn775xjq-1225967241332
21:04 December 7, 2010 by Rolle
Criminal Law for sex offenders apply, whether you are are a social justice white knight or an anti-establishment icon. Let Assange face trial before Swedish Courts, and let him be formally acquitted, if he is indeed innocent. I personally believe the best he could do for his (and WikiLeaks) credibility and public image is actually agree to come to Sweden. If the charges are bogus he has nothing to worry about, and shame will be brought to those who tried to bully him into silence
21:06 December 7, 2010 by mojofat
@locaxy

"First of all, governments have no expectations of privacy. Information gathered with taxpayer money is NOT private. That's the whole reason it's called public affairs."

Wow...breathtakingly dumb. You're so completely wrong that I'm almost embarrassed for you that you're making such statements in public. "Public affairs" is something wholly different from State Department communications. Further the government has a common-law right to keep state secrets secret. The modern articulation of the privilege is a 1952 Supreme Court case, The United States v Reynolds, and has been clarified by The Classified Information Procedures Act (CIPA). Everything else is available via a Freedom of Information Act request.

Assuming your mom let's you stay up past your bedtime, you may find this educational...maybe save it for later so you can learn all the big words: http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/Secrets1.pdf/$file/Secrets1.pdf

Now, quit playing on the grownup message boards and get your sleep for school tomorrow.
21:34 December 7, 2010 by marianne667
I cannot understand why my country got into this horrible mess!! We should have known better than to get into americas nonsense. Now the whole world thinks we are idiots and at best incompetent & have very weird laws. Considering the reputation that swedes have re sex, makes rape allegations particularly silly.
21:35 December 7, 2010 by Garry Jones
What you are all missing is that one of the women he (may have) attacked his actually a supporter of WIkileaks and anti-war, anti-american, anti-jewish, pro-arab (middle east). Next week she is off to the middle east, she is gonna live in Gaza and help the arabs against the israelis. She is so anti-american that this fact has to be overlooked by anyone who wants to think she is part of this..... Just google her blogg, her name (and SW - the other girl) are all over the net, I wont point u there but try google....... She seems to be someone who would quite love it if the Americans were made to back down because of Wikileaks. So to even suggest that she is a puppet of the usa is just plain ignorance and anyone who says it or thinks it is just plain daft.
21:40 December 7, 2010 by OnessOfMankind
The world will support him more and more as the US tries more dirty tricks to cover their pile of ****
21:55 December 7, 2010 by mojofat
@Garry Jones

That is my point exactly. Is the "swedish" law on the books silly? I think so. Are these charges against Assange sensationalistic? Probably...I'm not the judge or jury, but speaking as a single male I would hate to think how many of these "sex by surprise" changes I could be brought up on. However, this in and of itself does not mean there's a US conspiracy. If there's a conspiracy to get Assange then why not look at the Swedish government since this is where he has been charged? Mind you, I do not think there's a conspiracy at all since I've personally known women vindictive enough to pull something like this without government support. People are far too quick to see the US as the evil empire...you're just as bad as the black/white narrow minded fools in the US (Republicans) who do the same damn thing with their bogeyman du jour.

The US has plenty of things to be ashamed about, but there isn't anything that points to this being one of them.

And for all the conspiracy theorists, why is it you're so unconcerned with wikileaks' source of funding? I suppose this is irrelevant? Please...I can think of a number of groups that would benefit from having a shadow organization like this operating on their behalf. Maybe it's the People's Liberation Army? Maybe somebody else...point is, nobody is holding wikileaks to this supposedly high ethical standard they're proclaiming to have. There isn't a "news" organization in the democratically governed world that I cannot find the source of their operating funds...wikileaks is quite alone in this regard.
22:25 December 7, 2010 by superturbo
poor ass-ange :P
22:35 December 7, 2010 by Syftfel
The sad reality is that the current occupant of the White House, and his cronies and tsars, pose a lot greater danger to the free world than Wikileaks can ever hope to do.
22:39 December 7, 2010 by unseen
@Garry Jones,

what a crap, have u lost ur mind or something? what fre*kin girl u're talking about?

the whole fre*kin world is freaked out!!! governments, the UN, NATO and nations, & you just keep bitching about some arab girl???? maaaan!!! you really got me confused...

don't get me started for real u idiot........
23:03 December 7, 2010 by Cartel Malone
Thanks for not saying freak.
23:20 December 7, 2010 by pretor
I am shocked and disappointed that the Swedish legal and political establishment has allowed this abuse and perversion of justice to occur. This is shameful (being lackey's of the US State dept). While many are contemplating the effects Wikileaks will have on US diplomacy, I have no doubt that the perception of Sweden - as a beacon of liberty and freedom throughout the world - is about to change dramatically! Sweden will lose many friends who will not forget this betrayal...
23:24 December 7, 2010 by SeanAUS
Sweden, this is an outrage.

The world is watching you. This is your moment of international infamy. You are on the wrong side of history.

Citizens of Sweden you should be out in the streets protesting.

Only you can make it right now.
23:30 December 7, 2010 by GLO
Assange is an Enemy of the USA. He and all those who give material support are Enemy Combatants, time to draw lines in the sand and treat Enemy's as they should be.

This could devolove into a world wide conflict.

Time will tell, but I fear all free nations could become targets. Funny, you never know who could become a terrorist. Assange joins a strange club!!!
23:34 December 7, 2010 by americanska
Wow, there are a lot of dumb people posting comments.
23:35 December 7, 2010 by andrewsrocks
I really don't understand why everybody commenting here failed to realize that all of this circus is just that, a circus. Wikileaks is a plot directed by the US government to follow the steps of China in cutting civil liberties of their fellow citizens. Specially to limit their access to information since it's undermining "democracy". They just realized that their citizens are getting too difficult to fool because of the WWW. Now, they will introduce censorship and digital signature to the Internet by popular claim. To avoid "traitors". Obama himself said during a speech that Americans now are overwhelmed by information. Open your eyes people. The Internet is not going to be free nor anonymous anymore after they finish passing the laws they want. And the worst part of it is that people will agree since they are "protecting sensitive information to be published". The first symptom of that are the comments @nojofat are posting. He is convinced wikileaks should stop, as probably most of the US people think now... what a shame.. Soon we will see history disappearing from the Net...
00:04 December 8, 2010 by jbat
Assange will later have to go through force face off operation by US govt...

after the operation, don´t surprise if his face will look like bin laden face! LOL.....
00:29 December 8, 2010 by Nomark
@mojofat

You hit the nail on the head regarding the law. This has long been my own view of the case i.e. that it has to be understood in the climate of feminism and gender equality in Sweden. Over the past decade there has been a wave of, in my opinion, sometimes sensible and sometimes misguided attempts to address gender inequality (far more so than in most other western countries). As a part of this, there is an effort to increase the number of convictions for sexual assault. JA may well simply be caught up in that. I rather suspect that, given the complaints against him, he has attracted the attention of a prosecutor wishing to pursue a very public zero-tolerance line. Whether he's innocent or guilty, time will tell but I've never seen the need to look beyond Swedish society and the legal machinery of Sweden to understand this case.
00:34 December 8, 2010 by Nomark
@andrewsrocks Your theory is fascinating. Where is the evidence for it ?
00:44 December 8, 2010 by heroine
The truth is uncomfortable for governments. WikiLeaks, while maybe guilty of some missteps, has served a far greater good by revealing the conduct of our government. They provide a valuable public service and their founder is a hero.

The charges against Julian Assange appear to be part of a counter campaign to discredit him using honey traps handled by intelligence operatives. While the ability to prosecute them are doubtful, more serious espionage charges could be pending. Even more interesting than the content of the disclosures have been the anti-free speech actions used by our government to stop them. These tactics, including seizing his bank accounts and denying his organization access to merchant credit card processing are just two of many attempts to stifle important free speech.

Regardless of the political careers placed in jeopardy, I hope the disclosures continue. The public deserves to know, even the uncomfortable or unseemly parts. While some of those in power might have their future reelection prospects dimmed, most will be better for it in the long run. The truth elevates us all.
00:49 December 8, 2010 by beam_me_up
Since you people know so much, why aren't you handling this matter? I personally doubt anyone would hire you for the job, though! What ever happened to logical, independent and critical thinking? You all sound like a bunch of 14 year olds! Have some mature debates! Look at all sides like the mature, responsible adults you're supposed to be!
02:51 December 8, 2010 by procrustes
Here are two links that shed much needed light on this story.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/interpol-the-worlds-datin_b_793033.html
03:15 December 8, 2010 by Steve911
Many people have a mistaken belief that Sweden is still a model of progressive Liberalism, neutral, pro peace and a bastion of free speech. For many years now Sweden has a been ruled by a motley coalition of Conservatives, Royalists, Farmers and Christian interests, some of whom are advocating joining NATO, reducing Abortion rights for women and giving strong support for Israel's wars and ethinic cleansing.. Carl Bildt the Swedish Foreign Minister famously supported George Bush's Iraq War and accused Russia of a Nazi style invasion of Georgia in 2008 (the facts later showed that it was Georgia, ruled by another George Bush poodle that did the invading). US ambassador to Sweden, Michael Wood wrote (as recorded in the WikiLeak logs) that even though the official Swedish line is non-alignment, Swedish participation in NATO's Partnership for Peace and role as leader of the EU's Nordic Battle Group show that the position is an untruth. How about when it allowed rendition flights by the CIA? Sweden is now a fully paid up member of the US controlled 'International Community' / Neocon alliance and has one of the most Right Wing governments in Europe. Julian Assange was badly mistaken if he thought he was going to get any help or sanctuary against US oppression there.
03:23 December 8, 2010 by ghostof911
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04:58 December 8, 2010 by volvoman9
Lots of interesting comments... some I would agree with but one poster stands out for his ignorant rants, @jbat If I were you I would look within for the real issues with Islam in a modern society. It is illiterate morons like you that do more harm to Islam than any "Yank" could hope to. Do you honestly believe that anyone of substance will take your idiotic chanting for anything more than it is?

Your ilk is nothing more serious than sad dis-affected sheep who will sacrifice themselves to some vague distorted and archaic ideology that will never be embraced by an intelligent human. You simply are displaying the tantrum like behavior of a petulant child. Dangerous you may be but respected... certainly not! Please stop disgracing and sullying the reputation of an ancient and respected religion.
05:04 December 8, 2010 by Aureliano Buendia
now Sweden has no rights to refuse the fact that he is the puppet of USA...

a la Britain
05:19 December 8, 2010 by volvoman9
@GLO You don't get out much do you? You strike me as one who exists on a diet of Fox news and Rush Limburgher.

This could be a plot to discredit the web thereby establishing a reason to edit it. Certainly the case for the "safety of the troops" has been trotted out; sort of with the fervor of the WMD. Indeed this mantra has been used ever since the WMD farce was exposed to galvanize the American public. However I have not seen anywhere near this elaborate a subterfuge employed by any of the Yankee government of late. Their methods have been much more brazen and guile than this.

Having said that I can't imagine this being about much more than tabloid fare in the long run. Interesting reading for sure but it seems that the government who protests the loudest is the one who is embarrassed by what the rest of the world sees as nothing too significant.

Remember politicians are people just like you and I who are not immune to the frailties of human behavior but who we have given the power of immense retribution to if they are shamed.

Bravo to JA and Wikileaks for having the courage to expose these people for what they really are.
05:50 December 8, 2010 by BillTuckerUS
I come from a country where defendants have a right to a trial by jury. Mr Assange also comes from such a country. What I wonder is: If Assange comes to Sweden, can he be confident of a fair trial?

American prosecutors, if they take a case to trial, must convince a jury composed of citizens that the defendant is guilty.

Many of us in the U.S. think that a defendant is more likely to get a fair decision from such a jury than from a judge. Whether we are right in this belief is hard to say, but there is at least one widely-known example that seems to support it.

This example is the trial of the Lockerbie bomber, Mr al-Megrahi. The trial was held before a three-judge panel of Scottish jurists, who found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.. Many of us think that Mr al-Megrahi is innocent and that a Scottish jury would probably have found him so.

Given that Mr Assange, via Wikileaks, has issued a grave challenge to state authority, can any state authority, on its own, be trusted to give him a fair trial?

- The Australian, featuring the headline, "Assange Poised to be Labor's David Hicks" (David Hicks is the Australian who plea-bargained his way out of Guantanamo), and links to Assange's article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/
06:07 December 8, 2010 by ghostof911
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07:13 December 8, 2010 by actuary
Some people are saying that Assange should go to Sweden and face the charges, however, it seems to me that the laws on what constitutes a sex crime in Sweden are very heavily weighted in favour of the person making the allegations. In light of this one would be very lucky indeed to be proven innocent , especially if the prosecution was rigorously pursued. Are the Swedish laws in these matters as bizarre as they are reported to be? If so, I imagine a goodly proportion of the male population have something to hide.
10:04 December 8, 2010 by Luke R D
Mojofat: I may not agree with everything you write, but I do like your feistiness! Peace.
10:54 December 9, 2010 by Enzooo
what I love is this sort of logic:

so he basically turns himself in and is civil enough to make an appointment! :

"Britain's Metropolitan Police said earlier in a statement that officers from its extradition unit had arrested Assange on a European arrest warrant " by appointment at a London police station" at 0930 GMT."

and then the judge says he's a risk to jump bail and denies him release.

and what I can't help but wonder is what does it take for the sheep of society to realize a government set up when it's staring at them in the face?

wikileaks is a publisher (albeit online) same as all the other 'free press' agencies/newspapers. i feel sorry for all the suffering he's going to go thru now and hail the US's new euro-puppet marianne ny. perhaps all this attention for herself and career will earn her at least a guest judge appearance on 'Idol'
03:51 December 10, 2010 by actuary
"Come to Sweden for a fair trial" You must be joking. How about going to Iran and face charges for adultery. In other words: don't have such stupid laws and people might agree.
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