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Social Democrats call for Swedish Muslim holiday

Social Democrats call for Swedish Muslim holiday

Published: 02 May 2011 11:19 GMT+02:00
Updated: 02 May 2011 11:19 GMT+02:00

"It was a long time ago that we reviewed it. Almost all of our public holidays, except for Midsummer and May 1st, have a Christian religious connection. Sweden is today a multicultural society, and it is worth looking at how it can be done," Social Democrat party secretary Carin Jämtin said to the Svenska Dagbladet (SvD) daily.

It is probable that any decision to introduce a Muslim holiday would mean the replacement of an existing public holiday.

Carin Jämtin stated that the party does not believe that it is possible to add to the current number of public holidays, but was unwilling to speculate on possible alternatives.

Jämtin was however prepared to offer a suggestion on which day could serve as a Muslim holiday.

"One could consider whether Eid, the Muslim Christmas Eve, could be a public holiday," she said, referring to Eid-al-Fitr, the feast at the end of Ramadan, the holy month of fasting.

The Swedish Humanist Association (Humanisterna) described the idea to introduce a Muslim holiday as "absurd".

"Most people in Sweden are secularised. For example they don't celebrate Christmas for Christian, religious reasons. It is simply an occasion to meet, eat good food and socialize. The same is the case for Muslims," said the association's chairperson Christer Sturmark.

"Christmas is furthermore not a Christian holiday originally. It was the day when the Romans celebrated the sun god."

Sturmark also said that neither does he want to have a day for the secular community, instead favouring a pool of holidays which an individual can use whenever he or she so desires.

"Then you could take time off when you want. If you want to celebrate Ramadan then you could do so on one of the days from the pool," he said.

Sweden currently has 11 official public holidays (röda dagar) - New Year's Day, Epiphany, Good Friday, Easter Monday, May 1st (International Workers' Day), Ascension Day, National Day, Midsummer's Day, All Saints' Day, Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

There are a further eleven days designated as public holidays or flag days which do not carry the right to a day off from work. In practice many of these days include a half or full day's holiday, often taken on the day before.

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12:18 May 2, 2011 by technoviking
Of course they do.... And so it begins.
12:21 May 2, 2011 by Rick Methven
May 2nd should be the day - They can celebrate the death of Bin Laden
12:32 May 2, 2011 by truthworthy
It is fair suggestion. Sweden should live to its word and recognize our holidays. Muslims are part of the society.
12:33 May 2, 2011 by Swedesmith
Rick: I don't know how you mean that but, HEAR HEAR!
12:38 May 2, 2011 by RobinHood
It's good to see the Social Democrats finally listening to the Swedish people. My blue eyed, blond neighbours are constantly asking for an opportunity to celebrate Islamic holidays instead of Christmas and Easter.

I hope the Social Democrats don't forget to put this in their manifesto at the next election. The Swedish electorate will definately support it 100%. The Moderate party must be shaking in their capitalist shoes and preparing for electoral obliteration.

More of the same please Carin Jämtin, you are a one-woman election winner.
12:42 May 2, 2011 by engagebrain
Can the Scientologists, devotees of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Buddhists etc all have our own day ?

we will need a longer year to keep everyone happy.
12:45 May 2, 2011 by David S
I've got a better idea. How about getting rid of those archaic christian holidays? Though I think an official FSM eat pasta day wouldn't go astray ....
12:46 May 2, 2011 by Luckystrike
"instead favouring a pool of holidays which an individual can use whenever he or she so desires."

Fantastic idea!
12:47 May 2, 2011 by eton75
This is a ridiculous idea to say the least . Sweden is a Christian country . Do the Saudis have public holidays for Christians ? No . Enough is enough !
12:55 May 2, 2011 by expatjourno
No. Effing. Way. What a disgusting idea.
12:56 May 2, 2011 by Nemesis
On the basis of this, the Social Democrats should be deported to Saudi Arabia.
13:02 May 2, 2011 by HYBRED
Okay, say you "pool" the holidays. And also say your job is a bank teller. You take your holidays during the first eleven days of August. The Christmas gets here. You have no holidays left. So you will be a bank teller working on Christmas? The bank isn't open, so you would have a extra day off work.
13:08 May 2, 2011 by burlison
sounds like a shrewd move on the part of social democrats. Who in sweden's going to turn down more holidays?
13:17 May 2, 2011 by stenhuggaren
Sweden may in recent history have been a predominantly Christian country, but today the masses instead place their faith in science and common sense.

As Sturmark points out many of the so-called religious holidays pre-date any virgin births, second comings or skyward spiritual journeys - they have to do with the sun, the moon and the seasons.

Sweden's religious history is, if anything, a heathen one and proudly so.
13:18 May 2, 2011 by Angry Ami
Rise up viking warriors and say NO!
13:21 May 2, 2011 by wenddiver
Happy Dead Osama Bin Laden day could be their substitute for Easter and Parasite rapist day celebrated around Christmas. New Years could be go the h@## home day.
13:23 May 2, 2011 by occassional
Talk about their head being so far up their jacksies...
13:33 May 2, 2011 by huckleberry
w.t.f.? I love Sweden and the way its embraced me and mine but enough is enough. Does this mean Sweden should start celebrating Waitangi day so us kiwis don´t feel marginilised? How about Australia day? What about other national days? When in Rome . . . .

HOPEFULLY common sense will prevail
13:38 May 2, 2011 by William Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha
I think we should have a day off for all religious holidays. If we can come up with enough we may end up with a 3 day working week all year round. Yeah!
13:40 May 2, 2011 by tgolan
The Social Democrats really want a Sverige ( right wing party)democrat government!!!
13:56 May 2, 2011 by Beavis
Swedens largest minority are the Finns not the muslims.. surely they should get their halodiays first..
14:21 May 2, 2011 by johnny1939
Why do we not get rid of all religious holidays then everybody can be miserable!!! Enough is enough w/ bending over backwards for everybody but a Christian!!! Just the way I see it for the moment.
14:36 May 2, 2011 by pjtaipale
Beavis #21: definitely! Everyone must spend December 6 indoors, and watch The Unknown Soldier, preferably the 1955 black and white version on a grainy VHS. Otherwise Finns will be mightily offended.
14:47 May 2, 2011 by Cornelius Hamelberg
That was Carin Jamtin and her Social Democrats' plea

What says Jimmie Åkesson/ Kent Ekeroth and their Sweden Democrats about that?
14:48 May 2, 2011 by philster61
How calling it Swedish Democrat brown nose day..... Or Swedish Democrats butt lick day.... Must be quite dark in the the Swedish Democrat central office right now...

It'd be more appropriate if the Muslims in Sweden declared a national Swedish holiday
14:58 May 2, 2011 by wenddiver
@Philster61- Well said man, exactly what I was thinking.

Happy dead Osama Bin Laden Day.
15:00 May 2, 2011 by Syftfel
This is how the social dems capture the immigrant vote.
15:06 May 2, 2011 by 123abcd1983
To be fair. I think chinese minority need chinese new year, and Indian minority need Diwali too. :P
15:07 May 2, 2011 by Rishonim
Can I recommend Yom Kippur to be considered as well?
15:32 May 2, 2011 by swedejane
Can't Sweden just get rid of all the stupid christian holidays?
16:05 May 2, 2011 by Njal
@ Sweden

Yikes!
16:08 May 2, 2011 by Grokh
couldnt comment because of profanity , its just words seriously.

lets see.

the islamic culture has not changed in the past 2 thousand years why should sweden accomodate that?

it is the islamic world that should be naming a swedish day and for one day they should live like civilized people, not the way around.

Meanwhile sweden should start having some pride in its own country and achievements, most countries in the world look up to sweden as a rolemodel when it comes to a propper country, its not perfect but its lightyears away from anything islamic.

So why a muslim day when the muslims should be the one moving on into the 21st century and recovering humanitys gift of critical thinking and inteligence putting aside their so called "culture" which is really just religious dogma that oppresses them and everyone around them.
16:18 May 2, 2011 by J Jack
It's a good idea but it should be parallel to an existing red-day because there are too many of them already. We can't afford to have everyone off work all the time. @ swedejane, Christian holiday values are a way back tradition that Christians can celebrate every day of their lives without a holiday but the Coca Cola company & Santa Claus might not allow Sweden to abolish Xmas. I say the same for the Muslims, let them celebrate their faith openly without grinding the country to a halt. We don 't need another excuse to buy excess amounts of everything from candy and fireworks to plasma tv's and plastic gizmos just in the name of some religious/commercial event.
16:22 May 2, 2011 by truthworthy
I would not reply to the bigoted people who commented above.

But actually i like the idea of holiday pool. If Muslims won't get their Eid made a public holiday the pool can work. I as a Muslim worker in Sweden would love to take 3 days from the pool to celebrate Eid and in return work in Easter, Christmas and New Year.
16:26 May 2, 2011 by Tanskalainen
When do I get to wear a burka?.......Oh wait I'm a guy.
16:38 May 2, 2011 by HYBRED
How do you know guys aren't wearing burka's? Do you ever peek underneath?
16:40 May 2, 2011 by jan.petras
Can we also have Robanukah for poor little Bender B. Rodriguez ?
16:45 May 2, 2011 by nyh2o
despite the fact that i dislike S, this is a very valid point and an opportunity for sweden to finally turn to a 21st century country. despite how uber christian the US is considered, it has no christian public holidays on the calender either (except Christmas which is celebrated by all). i had no idea what ascesion etc etc are till i moved here in fact. in a country where 80 or so % of the people say they are atheists - what do you mean you have weeks of for easter and ascention?? they should abolish all religious holidays and instead create national ones like the US - veterans day, presidents day, columbus day etc etc. or if they prefer to stick to religious or national differences for direction - have one day for each of the minorities - the finns, the samis, the muslims etc. saying i dont believe in God and then getting days off for christmas is just plain stupid.
16:49 May 2, 2011 by lewni
Oh the horror !
16:58 May 2, 2011 by Marc the Texan
If it's simply a question of multiculturalism, then start with the Jewish holidays. They've been waiting quite a while longer than the Muslims. Somehow I think a Jewish Holiday would be considered politically incorrect for the Social Democrats.
17:42 May 2, 2011 by technoviking
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18:00 May 2, 2011 by crankpot
i thought everyday was muslim day.. red day or not, everything is open because if not we could offend them, fridays prayers, but yet the swedish are not allowed to pray in school, may offend somebody.. you call them blatta, you are racist, they call you svensson, who cares.. why should they get their own day? hello, we are in sweden.. think if we moved to one of the muslim lands (outside sweden that is..) think if we say we want midsummer as a red day they will say sure,,, not a problem..

shame on sweden for even thinking of the foolishness!

i agree.. may 2.. binladen's death day..yeh
18:20 May 2, 2011 by zircon
Why not introduce a Knight's day where people can come and cross blades?
18:32 May 2, 2011 by Commoner
Well, Social Democrats are relying on the muslim votes. Do these people have any idea what an additional holiday might cost the nation? Surely, they do not need to think of these figures. Only thought behind would have to appease a minority of Religion of Peace.
18:52 May 2, 2011 by Arturio
Muslim day? maybe they would take the 11 sept. for the celebration.

Mmmmm i think somenthing is going wrong with those social democrats.
19:08 May 2, 2011 by Rishonim
I would like to propose a day off from insulting, blaming and attacking the Muslims and foreigners on TL. Don't you guys ever get tired of sounding like an old 8-track cassette?? Enough already.
19:28 May 2, 2011 by Tanskalainen
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19:51 May 2, 2011 by Essjay
Sorry but these sort of ideas work against the very people you are trying to help and actually makes them the scapegoat !

Their intentions are good but these things just do not work .

Muslims will celebrate when they do !

Non Muslims will celebrate when they do !

Whatever !

Imagine getting paid to sit round a table to come up with silly ideas !

Actually looking for work but think that extraterrestial SFI classes should be introduced , please contact !
20:26 May 2, 2011 by Tanskalainen
I'm sorry Rish. I didn't give you a chance to explain Islam's good points. Please go ahead.
20:45 May 2, 2011 by Swedesmith
Hey Tans, I'm thinking a burka would offer some good protection from UV rays. Do you think they make one with a fly?
20:47 May 2, 2011 by Enjoyourlife
The number of muslims are relatively small for sweden to give a national holiday. But it should be considered a holiday for muslims employee.
20:56 May 2, 2011 by Iraniboy
Thelocal Islamophobe bridgade are back again! The only problem is that they are anything but Swedish yet they find themselves eligible to decide instead of Swedes!

I as a Muslim don't like to see that the issue of Holiday for Muslims being used for political purposes. Cancel all Holidays and let the people themselves to decide when to be off!
20:57 May 2, 2011 by calebian22
2014 is gonna be a banner election for the Sweden Democrats because of ridiculous anti-Swedish garbage like this.
21:08 May 2, 2011 by johnny1939
Many a day I would have welcomes a burka such as: bad hair day, huge hangover, terrible cold and wanting to be left alone for other reasons. Where can I buy one?
21:15 May 2, 2011 by Soft Boiled
Sweden is multicultural so lets be fair people... as a multicultural society I feel it´s only fair to single out a single religion to pander to.. So lets be fair.. lets choose just the one religion and make sure they alone get special treatment. You Hindu? Sorry we are already pandering to the muslims... Buddhist? Forget it...

@Iraniboy please tell me what holidays iranians have that aren´t muslim? Would you even be able to discuss this issue in Iran?
21:41 May 2, 2011 by hilt_m
a pool of holidays, that is brilliant!
21:52 May 2, 2011 by Iraniboy
@Soft Boiled

Finally a reasonable question!

In Iran our main holidays which is two weeks for students and 4 consequent days for the rest of people is actually a pagan non-Islamic Holiday date back to more than 3000 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz

By the way I didn't support this cause, I'm just shocked by the level of hatred some non-Swedish readers of thelocal.se have against Muslims.
21:53 May 2, 2011 by TheOneWhoTravels
"Social Democrats call for Swedish Muslim holiday"

That is really nutso. Some of the Swedish politicians have really gone off the deep end with their militant political correctness run amok.
22:00 May 2, 2011 by jamesblish
I'm pretty sure the agnostics are a group of equal size to muslims, maybe even christians. A suitable agnostic holiday might be a good idea. After all, they're the ones who've got it right. And by they I mean we.
22:06 May 2, 2011 by TheOneWhoTravels
"calebian22

2014 is gonna be a banner election for the Sweden Democrats because of ridiculous anti-Swedish garbage like this."

I agree 100%. What is it with some Swedish politicians engaging in self-hatred of traditional Swedish culture and values? Why on earth are they actively TRYING to convert Sweden into an Islamic nation?
22:09 May 2, 2011 by Infart
@ Iraniboy-

If you think the non-Swedish readers here are bad then you should read what Swedish people have to say on one of the many Swedish newspapers comments sections after the True Finns won their election. You probably wouldn't be too happy with it either.
22:25 May 2, 2011 by Aussie Sven
I just take a sick day on Jan 26 (Australia Day) and April 25 (Anzac Day) I don't need a government to tell me I can or can't. Lose a day or twos pay and do what you want.
22:25 May 2, 2011 by calebian22
One who travels,

Indeed, holidays have to do with tradition and culture/history in Sweden, not religion. Introducing Eid or making a holiday pool, is pandering to crybaby thugs who want their own way and don't understand that Sweden is not religious and is not interested in becoming so.
22:42 May 2, 2011 by burlison
I'm in Scandinavia this week, and I'm noticing how muted y'all are about Bin Laden. It's like your hands are tied. Like you're looking over your shoulder to see if it's ok to say how you feel....
23:02 May 2, 2011 by jimmy1988
Definetly the Social Democrats are not Swedish. They are muslims with white face defending a islamic state in Sweden.
23:12 May 2, 2011 by dizzymoe33
Please Sweden say NO to this stupid idea. Here in the States we have been celebrating other countries holiday's and I have to say enough is enough. When immigrants come to my country they need to follow the holidays and traditions that have been in practice for almost 300 years. Celebrate your holidays at home privately. Just say NO Sweden you can do it.
23:14 May 2, 2011 by rise
Jimmie Åkesson will be getting getting my next vote. Sadly I didn't vote for him in the last election. My apology.
23:14 May 2, 2011 by Leo N.
Well said .....fully agree ... enough is enough !
23:53 May 2, 2011 by J Jack
Just please let the Muslims celebrate their heritage without a terrorist bias! Stop being such racist bastards and start defining who you are as a Swedish Nation. Yes I mean stand up for who you are. The Kingdom of Sweden! Be proud of your heritage as a hospitable and fair people. A Nation, not a race!
00:14 May 3, 2011 by J Jack
@ Patrick4141 .. obviously you don't know the declaration of human rights which supports the right for anyone in any country to practice their faith without persecution. Why are you so afraid of Islam? I am a Christian and fear (in my faith) is a good thing because it opens the door to reality and debate. Any Muslim is welcome to sit at my dinner table anytime, I'm just not so sure they would want to drink that much whiskey. Don't you realize the whole world belongs to all of us? And why? So we can share and co-exist. Oh.. you are also welcome with or without your bias anytime. So find yourself hereby challenged to have dinner with my Muslim friends and I. Then we can discuss this matter further.
00:15 May 3, 2011 by odinmp5
i had been away from thelocal.se for about a year...... im astonished., this is pathetic., this is like new low.
00:32 May 3, 2011 by infidel2012
I live in Sweden, and I could give a rats a__ about that mussie, or all mussies on that note.

Now the fun starts watching the BS hit the fan with the cell groups posing as helpless asylum seekers, converting over to christianity so they can secure their undercover stay here in Scandinavia, or rather, Swerabia.

Another poster here on the local 'expatjourno' hit the nail on the head and said something so profound, that I must quote it...

"Immigrants and children of immigrants are responsible for almost all of the crime, especially the violent crime, in Sweden. It's never racist to point out the facts.

It's all about the culture. Import a bunch of middle easterners who come from societies that degrade women and don't be surprised when rape and other acts of violence against women increase. Import a bunch of people who don't have the same customs about not hitting children and don't be surprised when violence increases a generation later.

Import people who have not had the civilizing influence of Swedish schools, starting with dagis at the age of one, and don't be surprised if society becomes more savage.

Give people's kids home language instruction and don't be surprised if people bring more of their cultures' disgusting attitudes and behavior to Sweden.

I watched all of this happen. I watched the immigrants come. Watched their kids grow up. Watched the streets become less safe. First hand. And the statistics back me up."

Freedom of Speech is alive and well in Sweden.

It's quite obvious that the majority of posters are zenophobic to a country that is becoming zenomorphic.

Yes, they should be allowed to have a holiday... Right back to where they came from.
00:33 May 3, 2011 by J Jack
@odin .. lead by example
00:37 May 3, 2011 by bdswede
They removed Christianity as the State church, but they kept the holidays. So instead of adding more religious holidays but get rid of them.
00:38 May 3, 2011 by technoviking
This is a windfall for the Swedish Democrats...

But I guess the Socialist traitors realize their only hope these days is to win the immigrant vote by giving them holidays and upping their welfare payments.

@ Infart - Yes, it's fun to watch Iraniboy squirming so desperately to hold onto his visa before his clock gets punched by SD... Times are changing fast.
01:18 May 3, 2011 by Just_Kidding
Doesn't this party have any better ideas?

Iranian Atheist
02:18 May 3, 2011 by Da Goat
Just to put a hose on the subject there are no Christian holidays, Christ did not endorse any holidays except for every Sabbath (Lordag). (His day)

Christmas and Easter and the others are pagan high days embraced by Catholicism .

there is a Christian holiday every Saturday apart from that there is none!

the Muslims like the Christians can share the Pagan and labour holidays like everyone else!
02:30 May 3, 2011 by Swedesmith
Everyday I can have a cold beer is a holiday. Weee! I'm celebrating right now. Happy Beer Day!
02:39 May 3, 2011 by Tanskalainen
Rishonim I apologize for my earlier (deleted) comment my friend. Sometimes my jokes are not funny. (Only sometimes).
05:26 May 3, 2011 by jackx123
muslims are NOT part is swedish society. they may well live in it but not part of it and never will.

can we introduce christian holidays in saudi? NOOOOOOOO!!! If you wear a crucifix visibly you WILL be sent to jail in Saudi so there you go folks. Peaceful islam that respect other religions - NOT.

these people can take a day of work if they feel so strongly about their evil religion. I bet it ws a mussy who came up with this totally preposterous proposal.

go back to your hospitable home country and celebrate in style
05:56 May 3, 2011 by jomamas
The politician is shamefully unaware that 'Christmas' as a holiday - and always has been the celebration of the birth of Christ - the specific date is 3 days after the winter solstice, of course it is of astrological significance and not historical.

Anyone with a brain would recognize the winter solstice as being one of the 2 most astrologically significant days of the year thus other festivals will invariably coincide.

Christ is a Prophet in Islam, thus all Christian holidays are effectively Islamic.

Finally - there is nothing 'irrational' about faith and religion, anyone who understands faith knows that it is not a substitute for 'rationality' or 'science' or 'logic' - one is reductionist and material - the other is metaphysical.

Losers who can't even grasp that fact should hold their tongue on every subject - they don't even know what religion, nor do they understand reductionism, therefore they shouldn't make any comments.
06:13 May 3, 2011 by calebian22
Jorn,

Saying something after the fact doesn't make it so. I can claim I am your father. It doesn't make it true Islam started in a cave, written by a warlord pedophile who listened to the voice of Lucifer, 600 years after the death of Christ. Christ was not a prophet of Islam.
06:17 May 3, 2011 by Iraniboy
@infart

I sometimes read it. It is too liberal and rarely supportive of them! Only 5% of Swedes support SD. Is it really hard for you to accept the statistic? Out of these 5% much much fewer support True Finns. I suggest you to read True Finns ideas. They hate Swedes more than they do other foreigners!! So basically Swedes cannot like them! You can't like someone who hate you? Otherwise you need help!

@tecknoviking

haha, Dream on! The vast majroity of Swedes have seen in Sweden hate SD more than I do :)

@jack

Can you please go back to where you come from and stop pushing your vile ideas on 95% of Swedes?
07:14 May 3, 2011 by shah85
Sweden is a secular country and should remain that way. It should not allow holidays such as Ramadan and etc to become national holidays. In addition, Swedes' have every right to dislike Islam. And this is coming from a Iranian. I strongly suggest everyone here to read "23 Years," by Ali Dashti. Whom was one of the most important Iranian scholars on Islam and Muhammad. That is before Muslims murdered him because he spoke the truth in a scholarly method. The book sheds the truth about Islam and who Muhammad really was. For those familiar with Iranian history know Iranians have always had a serious problem with Islam. So for someone coming from a country who has experienced it and seen what it can do, trust me you want to don't do it.

Also, religion has no place in modern society. Religious people are backwards regardless of their religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Years

the English version link is on the bottom ( please read the book , you'll have facts to support the cause against Islam )

Peace from Tehran
07:21 May 3, 2011 by J Jack
@iraniboy, I often go back where I came from in New Zealand and 95% of Swedes that I know would also love to live there, knumbskull. I'm here by choice, probably not you.
08:04 May 3, 2011 by helveeta
Let's please not mix religion with government! This will not happen BTW, it's just a suggestion.
08:40 May 3, 2011 by technoviking
@ iraniboy

If you're so stupid as to think those numbers are going to stay static, I would love to see your face after the next election.

I doubt you are privy to the same dinner conversations I am given who you are. Many Swedes are very sick of immigration. You shall see.
09:27 May 3, 2011 by pcs
Holiday change proposals!!

I think I should start lobbying my local MP to table a motion in parliament that will allow me to celebrate my Englishness and allow me to take a select few English holidays as well as Swedish holidays.

As an ex civil servant the Queen's birthday was very important to me (not). However, it was a day off and we all like a day off from work where we still receive payment.

I would also like to have May Day bank Holiday moved to first the Monday in May so I can have a long weekend thanks and while we are at it, can we have an August bank Holiday the last weekend in August please. I would like to pop over to London for the Carnival

Granted they are not religious holidays but, if someone is proposing holidays for a particular group, I feel I have a right to celebrate my Englishness too!

Oh, I nearly forgot St George's day on 23 April. It would be good to have that day off too and officially instead of taking it as a sick day!

While they are considering religious holidays, how about celebrating St Patricks' day 17 March. Now there we would need to have the day after as a holiday too so my Irish mates and I can get over our hangovers.

On a more serious note and in this case, the system is not broken so leave it alone!

People from minority groups should take religious holidays as part of THEIR holiday entitlement. To change the system to accommodate a minority groups will be the beginning of chaos.

If you want, minority groups to feel included in this society then encourage them to celebrate Swedish holidays.
09:43 May 3, 2011 by Rishonim
@Tanskalainen, no worries, I had taken no offence at all. ;-)
11:03 May 3, 2011 by Borilla
I am happy to be a Swedish citizen. I came from another country. I did not, nor do I, ask that new holidays be created because Swedish holidays are not the same as in my country of origin. Swedish holidays are a product of Swedish history. The fact that they are different does not mean that the country's system must be changed to accomodate you. Specifically, to Muslims, why are you here? Most of you walked through the door claiming asylum due to claims of persecution (real or imagined)in your country of origin. It seems incredibly presumptuous to demand that the country that gave you asylum change to accomodate your superstitions.
13:56 May 3, 2011 by justiceforall
Ha ha ha... Most of the idiots do not know the game of the politics. Bin-Laden Game is a nice one. We just act on what media telling us, but never think if that is really possible or not.

By the way, as our topic is 'Social Democrats call for Swedish Muslim holiday', i can assure you idiots that there are many Muslim majority states having 25th december as Holiday due to Christmas. If a third-world country can show that level of respect to Christian Holoday, why Sweden would NOT accept Muslims holidays?
14:01 May 3, 2011 by Syftfel
The question really is how do these socialist vermin sleep at night?
14:43 May 3, 2011 by jamesblish
Having a muslim holiday (or any other religious holiday) is not a problem at all. As long as we stick by our values and keep religious fundamentalism and middle ages-type laws at bay. I'm happy. The state, its schools etc. must not in any way give in to religious demands of any kind. I don't care if 99% of the population is religious, Sweden must remain a thoroughly secular country based on sound thinking and science. As long as we do, celebrate any holidays you like.
17:46 May 3, 2011 by EP
What is the point of Ascension Day then celebrated in Sweden. I understand Christmas, I understand Easter, but many less-secular countries do not have a red day on Ascension day. I think the Humanist Association is a bit short on their justification. Admit it, Ascension Day is an excuse for the typical Swede to eat more herring and get drunk (since that's all they seem to do)
20:12 May 3, 2011 by HYBRED
You have to be darn near drunk to eat the herring. But there is nothing like a good drunken crawfish party.
21:36 May 3, 2011 by technoviking
@ jamesblish

Then you need to learn some more about Islam.

It's sole objective is a non-secular state. One cannot be both a good Muslim a good citizen in a secular modern democracy. All laws must answer to Islam and our freedoms and beliefs are in direct conflict with the "teachings" of the koran. Get one and read for yourself.

"Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah." Surah 5:80

Swedes may be "multiculturalists". Muslims most certainly are not.
22:12 May 3, 2011 by Iraniboy
@J Jack

If you want to live in Sweden you should, like the majority of Swedes, put your prejudice before coming to Sweden. You started to talk about me which were all wrong. I often go back to Iran. I'm here by choice, in fact I could live in Norway, US, Canada,.. and I chose here merely because after 3 years of living here I don't see people with prejudices as I saw in Iran, US,...Now embrace the Swedish style or go back where your approach is acceptable.

@technoviking

Lol you sound like a 18 years old lad. You have every right to believe that your belief will have more support next time but now you are only 5%. So accept the fact till next time we play :D In fact the number of Muslims in Sweden is more than SD supporters!
23:35 May 3, 2011 by rise
I wonder how "multicultural" would be such a wonderful thing!? You cannot mix up people from all kinds of cultures, it simply doesn't work - sometimes you're even having a hard time living among people from your OWN culture!

Oh, and our politicians who are making all the decisions aren't even living in the "multicultural" areas of our towns... :P

This is only some desperate way of trying to get some of the invader's votes.
02:52 May 4, 2011 by Larry Thrash
Sweden has shown great tolerance toward other religions and groups. Now it's time for Muslim countries to welcome Christians, Jews, and others. Where is our expectations of tolerance for our culture by Muslims?
04:33 May 4, 2011 by volvoman9
@infidel 2012... Bravo!! Sha85 Thank you for that.
07:58 May 4, 2011 by muscle
Recognizing the rights of certain community is something else. But changing your culture to accommodate certain group is wrong. I myself am a muslim, but this can have a huge impact in later politics of Sweden as well as how organizations work here. If in my country, there is no holiday for christians, I don't expect a non-muslim country to have holidays for muslim either.

But I guess the decision will be based upon a democratic debate.
08:10 May 4, 2011 by ericrufinosiah
I totally agree with Patrick4141 and please remember and keep in mind and thoughts that Sweden is a Christian country first,multicultured second and next

time dont forget to vote for Jimme Akesson,the true native Swedish who is brave

and really cares for the Swedish natives as awhole and of course Sweden as a

country.
10:21 May 4, 2011 by rise
And to say the society is multicultural is a far cry - Swedes are living in their quarters and immigrants/refuges are living in their own districts. Simply put; if an immigrant is moved to a Swedish quarter, the Swede are moving away from that quarter to an other one that still is Swedish. Who doesn't want to live among people of your own culture?
10:46 May 4, 2011 by jbat
Its amazing to hear words from AN IMMIGRANTs about other immigrants (not from Swedes). Swedes accept muslim as part of their society but these immigrants trying to cheat saying it is not (who know better, Swedes or these jealous immigrants?) LOLOLOLLLL...
10:48 May 4, 2011 by jbat
Yes "multicultural" don't exists... in the mind of American after being poisoned by Busshhher war for oil campaign! ;-)
10:57 May 4, 2011 by jbat
I bet these moaning immigrants.. IF Sweden become worst.. when living in Sweden is no longer peaceful and harmony or in other words if Sweden can no longer be heaven for them (compare to their own crap country...).. then these immigrants will go out of this country and find other place to live (and will do the same things.. moaning and moaning! lol)...

Do these immigrants care about lack of hard labour in Sweden if these refugees dont come and live here? andswer is NO..

Do these immigrants care if Sweden bring South American people instead of these refugees here.. then the crime will rise very fast (these immigrants know well about these south american people.. dont cheat!)...? answer is NO again...

and finally they will say... Bye Bye Swedes.. I care no more for you all if you cannot offer me good place to live...
11:05 May 4, 2011 by jbat
Sorry I forgot.. These immigrants also want to be Taxi driver or cleaner (and then they will ask for 30k salary as chief cleaner or taxi to Arlanda for triple current price)

welcome welcome welcome
12:12 May 4, 2011 by Amara Kamara
Madame Secretary General, we the socialdemocrats want to win the next elections, but with your religious ideas you seem to be making a bad start. Sweden is not ready for your ideas yet. Please forget about introducing islamic holiday in sweden until maybe after 50 years.
16:01 May 4, 2011 by arsalan.ikram
well i do not understand what is promblem with social democrats and their stupid ideas.their is no need of doing this at all.there is no muslim country in world who gives holiday on christmas day so why sweden allows muslim festivals holidays and it is better to give holidays on pride days.
12:05 May 5, 2011 by Roy E
How disgraceful and bankrupt this proposal is. It is blatant pandering to a special interest group.

So the question is 'Will Swedes vote for a party who will foolishly sell out the nation's soul and eviscerate Sweden's essence in order to gain power?'
22:32 May 5, 2011 by Grokh
supporting a muslim day in sweden would be the same as supporting female abuse, and child abuse through indoctrination, in muslim countries.

Toleration is one thing, but tolerating stuff that violates human rights is not toleration but blindness
13:28 May 6, 2011 by DamnImmigrant
@engagebrain - "Can the Scientologists, devotees of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Buddhists etc all have our own day..."

Thanks engagebrain, another great chuckle. And a very TRUE Statement! Appease the islamic immigrants for their VOTES? Why are they singling out islam and ignoring the other religions?

To give a holiday would you not have to TAKE one from somewhere else.
16:30 May 6, 2011 by eovti
While I find some of the anti Muslim posts here rather scary, I still go for the old saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans".
16:59 May 6, 2011 by bcterry
16:30 May 6, 2011 by eovti

While I find some of the anti Muslim posts here rather scary, I still go for the old saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans".

How do you find muslim's anti anything other than islam?
21:34 May 6, 2011 by Observant
It is like a virus I fear - it will spread like wild fire.

NO, no, no and one more time NO do NOT allow Muslims their own holiday anywhere in EUROPE. They do NOT allow Christians THEIR holidays in those countries

They decided to live here so they must be made to live and celebrate OUR methods. If we go to their country WE ARE FORCED TO ADOPT TO THEIR METHODS.

To hell with all of them.
23:31 May 6, 2011 by Smartone
@ Observant: Firstly,There are Christmas holidays in Islamic country all you need is correct information! Secondly, if you don't want to celebrate any of Muslims holidays just relax at home and take a chill pill :D

There is no need to be rational you know it's not good for health :)
16:51 May 7, 2011 by bcterry
23:31 May 6, 2011 by Smartone

@ Observant: Firstly,There are Christmas holidays in Islamic country all you need is correct information! Secondly, if you don't want to celebrate any of Muslims holidays just relax at home and take a chill pill :D

There is no need to be rational you know it's not good for health :) "

Is that a national holiday for all?
02:13 May 8, 2011 by wenddiver
Wat would you call the day Happy Parasite day or Merry Osama Bin Laden is dead History Month?

How about Vermin Fest? oe "We gave our Children's Country to a bunch of murderers" day.
15:19 May 8, 2011 by technoviking
It's called 9/11.
15:15 May 16, 2011 by Incognito007
Come on guys! Why so much hatred to Islam?!

Why mention 9/11 and Bin Ladin when it comes to Islam?! Is that the maximum of your knowlage about the world second religion and the most fast growing?! You can do better than that. Swolowing propaganda which is feeded to your by biased and media and taking it for truth.

All that slogans 'War on terror" is a fake! It's a US war for natural resources and a way to make reach SOME people which have share in SU military industry... Bush family for example...

9/11 was an inside job to justify American invasion to Afghanistan and Middle East. US gets oil and other countries are also paying for it. Google "9/11 building number 7" or "9/11 consperacy theory" etc. You'll be surprised.

Bin Ladin was an enimy of USA years before 9/11 for organizing attacks on Americal military bases in the Middle East.

If majority of Swedes doesn't want any Muslim holidays, - so let it be. Nobody asks for it.... Muslims can get days off for their holidays, anyway there are only 2 Islamic holydays: Eid Al Fitr and Eid Al Adha...
23:24 January 4, 2012 by janeway
There are about 500,000 immigrants originating from islam countries. Not all of them practicing islam. There are close to 9,500,000 people living in Sweden. That make the possible muslim community about 5% of the population. How come they have more power than the majority? They are allowed to discriminate against females (cover them in black tents), they get financially compensated every time someone puts their foot down and say "enough is enough", there's actually a burkha covered student in the police academy and she will have the right to serve in her headcover.

There are more Finns living in Sweden than muslims, but noone caters to the former. Social Democrats and any other party affiliation that bend over backwards to accomodate a medieval, hateful and violent religion, will find themselves eradicated in the next general election. Sweden democrats, on the other hand, do not hold the solution. They are just another bunch of bigots.
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