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Police out in force for mosque protests

Police out in force for mosque protests

Published: 21 May 2011 11:32 GMT+02:00
Updated: 21 May 2011 11:32 GMT+02:00

The last time such a large police force was mobilized in Gothenburg was ten years ago during the EU protests.

Many are worried about violence and police are planning on implementing a low tolerance level. “The resources are in relation to the threat,” Martin Fredman, Police task force commander, told TT.

Three different groups have been given permission to gather and march towards the mosque. Two of the groups, Gothenburg against racism and the Left party, support the construction of the mosque. The third group, organized by the National Democrats and a group called the Swedish Defense League, are against its construction.

The greatest risk of fighting is expected near Ramberget on Hisingen where the mosque will soon be inaugurated. Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 demonstrators will attend the pro and anti protests and the area is under close watch.

An older demonstrator told TT that she was scared of Islam. The demonstrator later joined a group of protestors gathering near a gas station a half kilometer away from the mosque at around 10 am Saturday morning.

There are many cordons and fences around the building that police have been erecting during the past few days.

“Full scale fences are set up and there will be a no man's land erected between the various groups,” Fredman told TT. The demonstrators will be separated so that they can not throw items at each other. Fredman says the protestors will also be kept farther than throwing distance away from the mosque.

Special police personnel from Stockholm and Skåne will participate in the containment efforts. These police officers are specially trained police who have undergone training in how to confront challenges and confrontations with demonstrators.

The mosque is built by the Swedish Muslim Foundation.

In addtion to the protests, large parts of Gothenburg will also be clogged up with more than 60,000 runners in a race called Göteborgsvarvet, the Gothenburg round.

TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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13:42 May 21, 2011 by Iraniboy
Live and let live otherwise others won't let you live! No matter what you believe and not believe there will be always some difference between you and me and others so if we collaborate to ban something today next time it would our turn to be banned by others!
14:11 May 21, 2011 by jostein
Where are all the good normal citizens? Why dont they go there and oppose this imported facism? That mosque is built by one of the most opressive regimes in the world to spread their ideology in sweden. Why leave it to the extremists?
14:25 May 21, 2011 by Iraniboy
@jostein

This is an attitude that most Swedes don't have. Attitude of showing intolerance against what they don't believe! There are lot of people who oppose whatever you believe/don't believe, If they start to oppose what they don't like now, they will show the same thing tomorrow against you!
14:55 May 21, 2011 by wenddiver
Well said Jostein, Look at the hooded evil doers in the picture, they arrive with their hoods in place ready to comit their crimes. Islam is a thousand times worse than Fascism though. Not to say that Fascim is not hell on earth. Anyone who loves Sweden needs to oppose letting these front oranizations for terrorist groups and the most oppressive regimes in the world impose their will on Sweden.

You can't love Sweden and want her to be more like Syria or Iran. Now is the time for all Swedish patriots to come to the aid of their country and send the Islamists home, to their self made, murderous hells.
15:08 May 21, 2011 by Typical Whitey
You fools. Islam will one day dominate Sweden and all of Europe. Islam means "submission". Muhammad wrote in the Koran there are three options for non-muslims: death, conversion, or enslavement.

Take your pick. And they dare to call this a religion of "peace". Nonsense. Stop these invaders NOW or "tolerate" this at your own peril. Find your Viking roots and stand up like men.
15:33 May 21, 2011 by andrewsrocks
Don't make a big deal of such an insignificance. Even in the United States there are big mosques and muslims trolling around and that doesn't mean they are going to dominate with their barbaric practices the country. They are not fools and soon understand the advantages of freedom and the western society. Once they live in Europe, they understand that behaving like their counterparts in Afghanistan is not appropriate anymore. Furthermore, Europe and the EEUU can take advantage of their workforce and use their taxes to build weapons and take over the government in their countries. It is a win/win deal.
16:05 May 21, 2011 by abraham lezama
From México i tell you. Dont let the muslims religion spread in Sweden, because you are gonna start to loose your identity.

See how they reproduce... 3 5 childrens per family or more.

Love you Sweden, keep yourself as you are, your sons and daughter will defend you.

abraham lezama
16:34 May 21, 2011 by motti
Good luck to the protestors against the mosque. It is not racist to want your national culture to survive. The fascist left's propaganda is incorrect. Islaminazis are the true racists.

Check out MEMRI website that informs you whay is being said ir written every day in the Arab and Moslem world. Many openly their objective is to take over the world and all must bow to Allah and his "prophet" Mohammed. When will you all wake up?
16:37 May 21, 2011 by Iraniboy
I think it is very good that fascist posters like the above posters have a chance to relieve their hatred against other here so they don't need to pick a gun and shoot them!
16:37 May 21, 2011 by technoviking
Islam is a fascist political ideology, masquerading as a religion.

It is explicit in it's repeated directives to destroy all other forms of government.

It is explicit in it's barbarism and demands to not conform to Western values.

It is social cancer.

Tolerance of an intolerant, primitive death cult bent on making Europe into Yemen is not ever an option.
16:39 May 21, 2011 by babarizam
C'mon abraham they are already too much. They are the biggest market of European products. why not we just stop selling our products to them and destroy our economy.

Think before you talk, they have 80% of the worlds oil. They provide the cheap labor to the world. Every year millions of people travel to their countries for tourism, why not we stop ourselves to go there. Why not we just stop to go in their lands and stop them to come our lands.

My dear world is too small now to make that kind of decisions.
17:11 May 21, 2011 by calebian22
Iraniboy,

You're a complete dillhole. It is not bigoted to be intolerant of an intolerant religion. Show me a country where Islam is a majority, and minority religions and atheists have the same rights and freedoms.

Oh, and not doubt, most of the Swedes that know you, don't like you. That is a certainty.
17:31 May 21, 2011 by peno
Whose fault? You see them as one of your own because their skin colour resemble yours. Why are you now crying? Are you not the same people crying for human rights for God's sakes? Practise what you preach! They have the same rights as your gays and lesbians that you support to the high heavens. I do not share in their violent attitude and approach. I do not share in their approach as per religion wise, but the principle is the same - they have a right to worship and to be who they are just like the way many of you here will condemn those of us too who think homosexuality is wrong.
18:45 May 21, 2011 by swedejane
Anyone using "fascism" in the context of any religion should really spend 30 seconds with a dictionary to educate themselves of this word they clearly do not understand.

Second, anyone opposing this mosque now that it has been built and all that is left is for the crescent moon to be added to the spire is a real fool. If you wanted to protest, how about protesting prior to the sale of land or the beginning of the construction. It does absolutely nothing, except make you look foolish, to protest after it's built.

Third, ALL religions want to control people. One wonders what the pagans must've thought when the invading christians came and imposed their ideology and strange belief systems on the native inhabitants. But if you call yourself a so-called citizen of the free world, then you cannot oppose the building of a mosque and then welcome the building of a christian church. Well, you can but you're clearly an idiot. And a hypocrite. You know, I pass that mosque most every day and I've seen a lot of blue-eyed lilly white swedes working on the construction crews. No matter though that this project employed people and provided jobs...and no matter that your swedish constitution protects freedom of religion...I'm sure these race-centric philosophers among us know better.
19:23 May 21, 2011 by StuartM
@ All the racists here

Fundamentalism in any religion is bad but don't try to claim that Islam is the only religion which has a problem. You get fundamentalist Christians killing and persecuting gay people in Africa and murdering doctors in the USA and you get fundamentalist Jews murdering and persecuting the Palestinians and stealing their land. Do you have any evidence that this specific mosque is likely to spread fundamentalist or extremist beliefs? I know that the Saudis have certainly played a negative role in terms of financing and propagating more extreme forms of Islam and I would like to see the Swedish state challenging this by providing help and assistance to more moderate and reform-minded Islamic organisations within Sweden. It is clear though that those protesting against the mosque are not interested in engaging constructively with the Muslim community, rather they want rid of all Muslims and are using this as yet another excuse to spout their hateful, racist garbage. If I lived in Göteborg I would likely be joining the anti-racist counter-demonstration.
20:16 May 21, 2011 by johnny1939
Maybe all religions ought to be banned in Sweden. If you want to be religious go somewhere else. This whole thing is just creating so much trouble and this in a country that does not go to church or give a hoot. Who would miss the Swedish Church?
20:21 May 21, 2011 by underskyofsweden
Of course both sides have right to state their views on this subject but it's a bit late for anti-protesters because the project is financed, approved by the government and is ready to start up!

However, the problem to be concerned about comes from a sick mind regardless of location or religion! So, relax and take your time guys...
20:33 May 21, 2011 by calebian22
Stuart,

Maybe you can answer my question that Iraniboy ignores. What muslim country is tolerant and accepting (as equals) of other religions and atheists? Your liberal acceptance of an exclusionary religion is short sighted and flies in the face of all examples of Muslim countries in the world today. Why would the West ignore a threat such as Islam? You can say it is a peaceful religion that just wants to worship their god and the extremists are the ones who are the danger. If that is so, why are there no tolerant Muslim countries?
20:58 May 21, 2011 by wolfbay
The "Malmo-ization" of Sweden continues.
21:06 May 21, 2011 by Roy E
A baby Beruit! How fun!

Thank the government for importing this wholesome entertainment. It is of their making. Their vision of a multicultural utopia. It will be grand!

Or maybe not.
21:08 May 21, 2011 by StuartM
@ Calebian

Islamic is not one big monolithic religion and to say it's practised in exactly the same way in Tunisia or Senegal as it is in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan is absurd. You want to know what majority Muslim countries are tolerant of other religions, well there are quite a few: in Lebanon and Syria for example Christian minorities enjoy a strong and, in some cases, almost privileged position. In many majority Muslim countries in Africa various religions exist peacefully side by side and even in Iran recognised religions other than Islam enjoy some protection under the law. So I'm afraid your claims are quite inaccurate and based on unfair and bigoted generalisations.
22:18 May 21, 2011 by Roy E
Self-righteous willful blindness is a fascinating tragedy to behold. Or is it three sheets to the wind drunk on relativism and rationalizing? No matter, innocents get hurt either way.
22:25 May 21, 2011 by abraham lezama
Im i gonna look sweedish girls in Burkas?
23:23 May 21, 2011 by infidel2012
@StuartM

What does racism, as you call it, have anything to do with a terrorist religion?

Last time I checked islam is not a race, ergo, there are no racists on this particular thread... so far.

These demonstrators have my full endorsement - Please Slam Islam.

I will express my right to freedom speech and state that "I don't like muslims"

...and

Know islam... NO Peace : (

NO islam... Know Peace : )
23:56 May 21, 2011 by What?
Can we get the government a bit more active and effective to make some laws against building any moscs and tear down what they created?

I'd lke some more redtape on this and prevention of what does NOT belong in Sweden.

NOBODY should be born into muslim in Sweden - it does NOT belong here!

The sympathetic paper pushers need to get busy to fix up what they messed up when they invited all those "poor war victims"

Makes me sick to my stomach!

I do not want to waste any more tax money on scum!
00:34 May 22, 2011 by parshiwal724
wondering so many racists and biased people we have here against islam... how can constrcution of a worship place (there are already hundreds in sweden) can disturb their life?.. this ideology is based on hate and intolerance... islam is a tolerant religion and its not defined by few thousands stupid talibans (just like pastor jones or christian extremists dont define christianity)...
00:52 May 22, 2011 by Swedesmith
I'm kinda on the fence with this one. If Joe Muslim moves next door to me and he goes to his church and I go to mine and his kids play with my kids and we all get along...tha's great. But this whole colonization, subjugation, jihad, death to America kind of mentality puts me off quite a bit. For all you die-hard Muslims out there who are offended, sorry, but that's how I feel and I don't mind saying so. In the Western world we call this freedom of speech. That is one of the many freedoms that have been fought and died for. Hate to see some lily-livered politicians who have never suffered anything more serious than a hang-nail, give these freedoms up so easily.
01:18 May 22, 2011 by What?
Exactly!

Once the muzzies get one foot in the door in a local community or country they want to change the laws to sooth their way of thinking and living. They want the goverment to give them right to punish their women for what normal people think is childishly innocent. No! if their 18 year old daughter is merely a suspect of having had any form or physical contact with an "infidel" the family has the "right" to cut her head or hands off!!

A cheating woman is as far as dead! They have to cover their faces and have rags on their heads to cover any beauty. No cosmetics.

What is wrong with that picture? They want the laws of the land they are guests in changed to their "belief and rights".

Yah! I really would like to see some public executions of muzzies in the middle of Sergels torg! Cut their heads off like chopping a loaf of bread!

They need to take THEIR beliefs and customs "home" to where they came from and stop spreading and imposing their disgusting idiocies all over the world.
02:21 May 22, 2011 by foordranata
I would not mind a mosque.

As long as it is quiet.

Make noise about it and you can bet your religious ass that mosque will burn.

Anyone trying to impose their wiew of god & religion on me, receives a kick in the head. I will bite he´s eyes out, I´ll eat he´s liver and make him plead for death.

Somehow this news draws me back to Finns "inudating" Haparanda.

I have no problem with muslims. Fine people, I can´t even tell a differnce.
03:09 May 22, 2011 by Eric abrahamsson
muslims are violent as some people thing i have many of them friends they are harmless but groups like al qaida are making them bloody but other wise no more mosquoes in göteborg
03:18 May 22, 2011 by jamesblish
They built it, they paid for it, what's the problem? They're not gonna stop being muslims just because they have no church of their own.
03:28 May 22, 2011 by foordranata
Muslims are funny:

They kneel down and bow to Mecca every now and then. Sometimes they are so immersed in it that they forget to work.

Then again, for some reason, there are numerous rally & formula championships by the Finns, very few of Swede ones.

Sweden has many victories in icehockey, Finland has fewer, (now one more)

Sweden is also better in soccer.

And...
08:58 May 22, 2011 by jostein
03:18 May 22, 2011 by jamesblish

No, saudi arabia payed for that mosque in order to spread wahabism in sweden. It is irrelevant to assert that there are different schools of islam because the school that built this mosque is wahabism which is one of the most chauvenistic and opressive religions in all the world. Why do people not protest against this?
09:13 May 22, 2011 by QqK
Here's the funny thing: there's a lot of Christian fundamentalists who are horrible in their views as well, and see the eradication of Muslim nations as a good thing. (A lot of them loved the idea of the Rapture for the suffering it would bring to non-believers.) There are also fundamentalist Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and pretty much every other religion. The problem is that these kind of protesters are incapable of seeing the counter perspectives, to see that if you don't want mosques then we shouldn't have churches, synagogues, temples or any other of these control & money generation factories. (Ever notice how God is all-powerful, but always appreciates a credit card?) But most of us want to live in a society that lets us believe what we want, even if it is ridiculous, so we need to be equal-opportunity supports for all delusions, and hope that over time people start to get smarter.
09:18 May 22, 2011 by calebian22
Stuart,

You are wrong. Syria and Lebanon have lip service freedom for other religions but violence against Christians, to use your example, are not equal to Sunni Islam amongst the masses. Syria for example, has religious freedom for minority religions but attacks on Christians and churches are a higher percentage than attacks on muslims and mosques. It doesn't matter what the law is in Syria. The reality on the ground is what matters. Additionally, the Christian churches in Syria fear the democracy wave in the middle East, because the haters on the ground, will be in representative government. Then the private, on the street violence, will be represented in the laws. Your liberal kombayah mentality, has clouded your judgement. Big shocker.
10:01 May 22, 2011 by Iraniboy
There is not point to discuss with non-Swede posters here and their hate speeches. They have been brainwashed with a lot of hatred in their home country so whatever comes out of their mouth about Muslims is prejudice and slander. Like I said before I'm only happy they have a chance to relieve their hatred by writing here otherwise if they live in Sweden they could be very dangerous for the society.
10:26 May 22, 2011 by calebian22
Iraniboy,

I may not be Swedish, but I live in Sweden, so I guess I am dangerous? My "xenophobic" attitude was built by watching muslims in my SFI, Gruv and Samhållskunskap classes upon my arrival. Any Swede that wants to know what they are importing into Sweden should sit in on a few of those classes to see the separatist mentality. All one has to do is mention Lars Vilks, and the true colors of the new Swedes in question will blossom to the surface.

Anyway, check out this article from the Local, circa 2006. Look what the Swedish Muslim Foundation chairman wrote in an open letter to Sweden's political parties. This is the same Swedish Muslim Foundation that is behind this mosque. The mentality of separate, special and superior is something to be feared in Sweden. But since this was 2006, I am sure alot has changed. No more extremists within the Swedish Muslim Foundation, right?
10:37 May 22, 2011 by HostileKnowledge
Do Muslims celebrate their rape conquests of Swedish women?

One must suppose that any violence and degradation, even rape, is a price worthy of paying in to the cause of the Holy Church of Multiculturalism.

Swedes must be very proud.
10:39 May 22, 2011 by calebian22
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3688&date=20060429

Sorry, I got a little ahead of myself.
11:00 May 22, 2011 by Iraniboy
calebian22,

Now you are expressing a view that can be discussed. What your friends were writing in previous posts were not 'view' rather than pure slander and hate.

Your observations in SFI ad other classes in not unique. First of all, all of us have seen that. So have all Swedes. They see the same thing as you see but they conclude differently. This is the difference. The input is the same. We all see some immigrants who may misbehave but we know that we don't know their religion, we don't know their background, we don't know if they have even learnt during their life if what they do is actually wrong! We don't know if they have been given any possibility to learn to behave etc. This is what most Swedes think when they see the same thing as you see. I have also had many observations in the streets of Europe and the US about white drunk people who were ruining everything on their way. I have seen many non-Islamic organisations which spread their hate about other groups but it hardly change my mind about non-Muslims because I avoid this gross generalization and I'd rather to understand those specific circumstances instead.
11:21 May 22, 2011 by calebian22
Iraniboy,

I would have to vehemently disagree with your conclusion. We don't need to understand Islam in order to understand bad behavior in the context of what is allowed in Sweden and what is allowed in the West. Contempt for religion is allowed in the West. Disrespect for religion is allowed in the West. Do I like it when I see cartoons of Jesus Christ having sex with Mary Magdeline? No, but I will let my God take care of that on Judgement Day. I don't call for the death of the artist, nor do I call for special exemption from criticism, that Mulims scream for regarding their prophet . Is Allah so weak that he needs muslims to stand up for him?

As the newcomers to Sweden making demands on the hosts to change is unreasonable. I don't impose my culture on Sweden. I change my cultural holiday celebrations to fit the Swedish calendar.

I don't need to understand Muslim culture to know that I don't want anything to do with it, nor do I want it to be part of Swedish culture, or French or German or whatever. Because we all know, that when that happens, Swedish culture will be replaced with Muslim culture. Muslim culture is exclusionary with no room for equality and acceptance of others. You know this to be true, but always deflect when pointedly asked about Islam. Everyone knows your game.
11:32 May 22, 2011 by diegoveggie
nothing like a building to communicate telepathically with an imaginary giant that lives in space
12:08 May 22, 2011 by Boliche
If they have money to build mosques, why, as good Muslims they are supposed to be, do not send money to, at least, their "brothers" in need. I think Ala and the prophet Mohammed would be much more happier with that than having more mosques here.

I am thinking about people in Pakistan, for example, who due to inundations lost everything and do not even have a place to pray....a mosque.
12:15 May 22, 2011 by Iraniboy
@calebian

Well my conclusion is based on my extensive discussions I've had with many Swedes. I was mainly expressing how the majority of Swedes conclude when they see the same thing as you do. You again made an example and compared your behavior in case of cartoon with some other Muslims. Do you understand that there are 1 billion Muslims world wide? How many called for his death? They should be more than 500,000,000 Muslims protesting and calling for death of cartoonist to conclude that the majority of them have such position.

"As the newcomers to Sweden making demands on the hosts to change is unreasonable"

I can't agree more. But you and others coming from North America or the UK are actually contradicting yourselves. Despite knowing the average Swedish culture, you're promoting anti-liberal attitude which is extremely looked down in Sweden. Have your tried saying all of these thing to 10 different Swedes and see what they think?

You again talk about Muslim culture while you yourself confess you don't much about it. I don't know about many things either. But I know and I've learnt that we have different culture and I know and I've learnt what you or other posters here believe are your opinions and they are not necessary the culture of the country you come from, otherwise based on comments written here we should conclude that all countries have bigoted and violent culture based on prejudice and hatred!!!
12:30 May 22, 2011 by swedejane
@calebian22

Wow, you identify as a "christian"...I have to wonder, have you ever actually read that book your faith tries to push onto everyone else? Perhaps you can quote us the scripture where it says to love all as your brothers, except the muslims.
12:40 May 22, 2011 by jamesblish
I followed the debate around the Manhattan islamic cultural center this past summer and I'd be a fool not to hold myself and my own country to the same standard as I did in the Manhattan issue. Bottom line is: We have freedom of religion in this country so there is nothing to protest. They are exercising their rights as citizens and how you feel about it is completely beside the point. Anyone who can afford it has the right to apply for a building permit and build a church of their own if they like. There is nothing to talk about.
12:49 May 22, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
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Comment: You Swedes are really something out of this world. To discuss such an stupidity like the one you are discussing in this thread,s simply too far fetched. Swedes are so afraid of saying the word nigger, that once upon a time they forbid the use of "neggerball" to a delicious chocolate covered all with coco. Now you have to calle it "chocolate ball". In my country,Mexico, we have thousands of people with black skin. Their origin is the black slaves introduced by the Spaniards when and after they conquered Mexico. You can see them in the states of Veracruz and Guerrero, mainly. We do not call them negroes, niggers, blacks or whatever. We call them "acapulqueños", because you see them mainly around Acapulco; for us they are "veracruzanos", because they live in the State of Veracruz and around the city of Veracruz. We have chinese people. We do not call them "yellows". Everybody is equal in my beloved country. In Sweden is where I learned that they are "svartkalles" and other beauties such as that one. But what can you expect of a country where almost everything that you like is either prohibited, illegal, inmoral, makes you sick, or belongs to someone else? A country filled with thousands of thousands of Eva Kindell? A country that a negro stops being a negro just because he started competing for Sweden in long distance races? A country where a great majority of its inhabitants still believe they are true "aryans"? Descendents of the Germanic tribes that produced the likes of dolf Hitler? For not whowing their way of thinking, they try to hide the Sun with one finger. You should not call a negro a nigger, because that is derogatory; but deep inside their souls, that is what they would like to shout to a negro everytime they face one. Eller hur?
13:54 May 22, 2011 by Twiceshy
This fake patriots are rats who work for political police and they get privileges (money, better job, etc) for their spreading of racism and hate against Muslims and against immigrants. If racism became popular anywhere, it means it is supported by system (the state and its repressive departments). Racism is popular in Sweden, it is not one or two racists than many people, mostly in south Sweden. Stockholm and north Sweden are still normal.
14:17 May 22, 2011 by calebian22
Iraniboy,

The problem I have is that the muslims that I have been exposed to at school on the surface would identify themselves as moderate muslims. On the surface, they seem to integrate. They dress liberally, slutty. They don't pray five times a day. However, when you bring up Lars Vilks, the oddest thing happens. They get extremely agitated. They demand respect for Mohammed. They demand justice against Vilks. When asked, they don't demand death for Vilks, but do you honestly think that if an extremist Muslim killed Vilks, they would be upset about it? I sincerely doubt it. "Moderate" muslims are the problem, because they don't condemn violence and in fact tacitly approve of it, by their silence. As for my hypocrisy, since I identify with the Sweden Democrats and their Swedish feelings, I live quite comfortably within the borders of my ideals.

Swedejane,

I may be a Christian, but I never claimed to be Jesus Christ. I don't accept Islam as a brother religion. The only thing Islam has in common with Christianity is that our Satan is Islam's Allah. I have nothing against Muslims. However, as a fallen human being, I don't bend over for marauders. I will no doubt have to atone for that at Judgment day. I will take any punishment Jesus sees fit to mete out against me.
14:35 May 22, 2011 by Syftfel
It is very clear that iraniboy is in charge here. Say something wrong and he''ll label you a racist at the crack of a sparrow's fart. And the he'll head straight for the abuse button.
15:01 May 22, 2011 by Observour
Sweden in the next few years? go to u-tube and watch the following:)

/watch?v=0X8sdxyjlcs

/watch?v=36TNd3c0K8Q
16:42 May 22, 2011 by Jes
Muslims should not only be free to build mosques where they want ,but MUST force nations such as Saudi Arabia to let christians build churches where they want .

If muslims don`t show tolerance in countries where they are the majority , they should not be surprised that Europeans , Americans try to stop them .

It is comical to see even clueöess Somalians complaining about freedom of religion when most of them fists saw a church when they left their confused discriminative country .
17:14 May 22, 2011 by Birbun
Send back the muslims to Saudi Arabia so they can build all the mosques they want.

Islam is not compatible with Europe.

Period.
17:41 May 22, 2011 by darkstar3x16
Dutch people wake up and fight before it is too late! time is running out you must make a stand now.
17:49 May 22, 2011 by jamesblish
The fact that certain other countries are too barbaric to recognize freedom of religion doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it.
18:03 May 22, 2011 by Birbun
Don't understand why the muslim immigrants want all to come to Europe.

Can't they go to the VERY RICH Saudi Arabia?

Over there they can build all the mosques the want.

Go there please.
18:14 May 22, 2011 by Elias06
@Birbun i agree with you and i dont understand why Europe and America are both intrested in the arabic oil and market, they can find it in their old lands and spare those countries their wonderful american democracy model
18:30 May 22, 2011 by Birbun
@Elias

The arabic oil is PAID not stolen.
18:52 May 22, 2011 by Elias06
@Brbun i dont want to talk about the arabic oil in a such good sunday, you and all the other muslim haters you have this website to calm your hateful spirits, there are guys who post intresting comment even when its criticising a category of people, but you are not worth to lose your time with, i hope that your hate and your dumbness dont affect your sleep...
18:57 May 22, 2011 by parshiwal724
double standards of west on freedom of speech.... islam is not defined by few biased media channels, its defined by Quran... n there is not a single verse in Quran talking about killing..... only once it says to kill infidal but only when THEY break the truce, only when THEY attack you, only when they are captured and dont ask for amnesty. n even then, forgiveness is far superior to revenge in Allah'e eyes... bible (n not Quran) advocates stoning, does it mean christianty is a terrorist religion??..
19:00 May 22, 2011 by Swedesmith
I work hard every day and sleep good every night.
19:26 May 22, 2011 by peno
@parshiwal724

I think Sura 9: 54 is very clear on what you are saying here. I think it will be better for you not to say something that you are not really aversed in. Remember a prostitute was brought before Jesus for stoning and he told them he that has no skeleton in his cupboard should first cast the stone. That is the cornerstone of our faith as christians. Love beyond mere expressions. Infact, read your Quaran very well and you will well know that NO MUSLIM is ALLOWED to befriend a non believer. That is why you do not allow non-muslims to your so called holy sites in Saudi Arabia.
19:57 May 22, 2011 by Dino7
Guys why you dont go to sleep you need to work tommorow.

Leave all people alone this is bothering really.

ANYONE WHO WILL LIKE TO JOIN MY NEW RELIGION ( HUMANZ )

Rasist they are not welcome.

You will just need to have BRAIN to join to my religion and ENTRY IS JUST 1 EURO. ALL THE MONEY WHIC WE COLLECT WILL BE SPENT TO BUILD Church and Mosque.
20:54 May 22, 2011 by local-aam
It hurts when I hear someone telling that they are afraid of the Muslims. How non-sense, blind, one eyed people you are to blame the Muslims where the western countries are invading Muslim countries and killing millions of Muslims just for oil, money and politics. For GOD sake don't tell that Muslims did the 9/11 attack, don't be a shameful idiot. Open up your mind and be fare with the facts of 9/11.

If you see a little outburst from some of the suffered Muslims from Palestine, IRAQ, Afghanistan; is this very illogical? So the Muslims should be killed without any reason and still be quiet. How you can expect them to be like that.

Anyways, I am happy that some of the Swedes are coming to the Streets to show their bloody racist faces. It is so irritating when you are bad but you behave like you are the best people on earth. Shame on you.
20:58 May 22, 2011 by technoviking
@ calebian

Dude, why are you "debating" with Iraniboy. He's the exact "moderate" Muslim you are talking about.

Singing kumbayah to you about Islam in one post and making excuses for terrorists in another.

And the quickest way to end it is to ask him to explain any of the evil, depraved demands of his religion.

Such as it's approval of wife beating, pedophilia, anti-semitism and the subjugation of non-believers. All of which are in black and white for us to see...

sex-in-islam.com/amar.khan/Pedophilia-in-Islam.htm
21:27 May 22, 2011 by Citrixme
Strange really ! I just came from UK ,go to London ,and Reading u will see big big mosques there !! does they ruled UK ? does UK effected by Islam ?? does Islam close nightclubs ? -as in Muslim countries y will find there what u will find here! the question ,how in the Earth Islam or any building going to effect this or that society ?? what is Islam if it there or not there ! dont u think that this kind of actions in such a community means they are sick with some thing ? keep in mind the Islamic signs in UK does it finish UK ? UK main ID vanished ???? if you are smart ppl ,do u think that this ppl whom take Islam as religion will take over in EU ? if u will be smart enough and go to there countries do u believe that they are not able to manage a que for the Buss! will be able to manage a countries ?? no offence plz ,as some body will jump and say that one day in the past this ppl was leaders ! but this is was which mean was ! like Nazi they ruled but its very clear that it was ,right ?
22:24 May 22, 2011 by jimthat
give me a break

now we most out of supporting people who the maximun contribution that makes to seweden is to carry some kind of parasitic job .. addind to that is the unsecuriti and social unrest they bring

they are a menace for the normal person who walks the street not to talk about the aged people who can fall on the ground and be severly injured because of these foreing thugs

they come from counties that are very rich in natural resources they would be much richer than european countries

but no they .they found the cow to suck the milk

that sweden and a group of ridicoulous supporters
22:50 May 22, 2011 by Ivan Juric
Islam doesnt belong in Scandinavia full stop.
23:42 May 22, 2011 by mir81
@technoviking

Well dear u know nothing about Islam I am really sorry to say that your knowledge is fake ......

Go and learn some thing by your own ...... don't miss guide people.

And now this is the time to see the hate of Swedish people for Muslims who claim we are very open minded ,and free society .... huh
00:23 May 23, 2011 by Birbun
@elias

If you think to upset me using the words hate or hateful, you'll be disappointed.

I care ZERO.

I'm not politically correct so no problem for me.

I repeat: build your mosques in Saudi Arabia.
00:36 May 23, 2011 by mir81
@ Birbun ....

We have plenty of mosque in Saudi Arabia thanks for your suggestion

and yes you are not going to finance this mosque so u shouldn't b careful about it

if u have problem contact court ....
05:51 May 23, 2011 by Grokh
Id happilly stand on the side of freedom of religion if an islamic country muslims stood up for non muslims for real, not the "egypt christians and muslims holding hands one day and next day burn down churches".

But since that doesnt happen and since islamic religion is agressively evangelical they can take their islamic beliefs back to their country where they dont accept anything or anyone else that doesnt agree with them.

honestly I would ban building of any religious house of worship, and put the money into better things like education, or fight sex slavery.

if people are indeed religious then they can do it at home in a humble way and not gather like fanatics, and avoid this kind of mess.
05:58 May 23, 2011 by calebian22
Technoviking,

If engaged, Iraniboy's true colors are highlighted and his agenda will be less effective. Besides it is fun.
06:51 May 23, 2011 by wenddiver
@Iraniboy- Looks like everybody has you guys figured out. You are llike the Alligators in that TV show "Swamp People", you can spin and try to turn and escape, but there is no getting away once everybody knows what is on the end of the line. Once Osama Bin Ladin identified youbums to the World as a pack of crazed muderers, your days were numbered.
08:15 May 23, 2011 by Infart
I've tried to hold my tongue on this but just can't. Especially since my buddy and I went to check out the protests for ourselves and I could go on for hours about the naive, clueless, misguided, far left-wing Swedes who came out in support of a freaking mosque. Of course they were scattered among the many Muslims who turn up for events like this, but can't seem to get 5 people organized for an anti-STH suicide bomber protest.

Anyways, there are 2 things that everyone is failing to understand.

First, THIS IS A SAUDI GOVT-FINANCED MOSQUE. HELLO!!! If you don't think that they are dictating what is taught in that place then you are delusional. And if you don't think that Wahabbism isn't being taught there then you need to get a clue.

Second, don't believe me? Well, the British television show, Dispatches recently went undercover into London's largest and most popular mosque. Can you guess what was being taught in there? Here's a teaser. The documentary opens with film of the teacher saying, "The one who changes his religion..what are we going to do? We kill him. Kill." You tube search "Dispatches Undercover Mosque The Return."

That is what will happen in the Ramberget mosque as well. Sweden will be an Islamic state within 30 years if things don't change.
11:56 May 23, 2011 by technoviking
@ mir81

I understand it's your job to deceive us, but we can most certainly read your magic books for ourselves and watch the savage behavior in the Muslim world for verification of what it teaches.

Save your lies... the infidels are catching on.
12:52 May 23, 2011 by mir81
@technoviking

If you have read our books then your comments must b something else this is the garbage of your mind which always make u think negatively about Quran and Muslims while u dont have any idea about reality

people like u only the source to create mess around ...... u guys have no other stuff but spreading hate and miss guiding others .....

May GOD show u right path ......
13:15 May 23, 2011 by technoviking
@ mir 81

You mean like Surah 4:34 that tells me about the inferiority of women and my right to beat my wife?

Or Sahih Muslim, 41:6985 that says Muslims should murder Jews?

Or the fact that Muslims are commanded to never befriend non-believers?

thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/009-friends-with-christians-jews.htm

Or perhaps all of the texts that condone pedophilia from multiple sources?

sex-in-islam.com/amar.khan/Pedophilia-in-Islam.htm

You mean that garbage?

You are a taqiyya snake, trying to pass your nasty beliefs under the radar by simply calling people liars.

Unfortunately for you, we in the West have the powers of reason and the ability to READ for ourselves making your baseless, idiotic lies pointless.

We know what you really are and what you really believe. And more do every day. Which does not bode well for you.
15:27 May 23, 2011 by mir81
@technoviking

so u have proved ur un educated person ....

u just give reference of a verse without the pre knowledge to it context .... I wish if u could read and understand the meaning as well ------- but u r dump ( sorry to say )

Muslims are commanded to never be a friend with those non belivers who act as spy of Muslim any hyprocates ....... ( This is the translation explanation of verse )

Your second reference you once again gave a wrong and foolish reference with out the context of verse and explanation ......... Quran simply says ...... Muslims are allow to kill those people who are going to kill them ...... or only for self defence .There is no verse which says go and kill non muslims unless some one is going to kill u ........ Go and read QURAN by your self .... dont copy paste garbage from internet

and keep your mind clear ....... Islam is not by force its by choice 4 non belivers .... so this is once again you are miss guiding other people and its garbage of your mind that u r trying to prove ....... MOSLIMS LOVE TO PUT THEIR IDEOLOGY BY FORCE ON NO MUSLIMS ......... Quran simply says ...... Muslim have their own belive and Non muslims have their on belives .....

Its not a teaching of Islam to force non muslim in order to embrace Islam .....

This kind of information is spreaded by you stupid people who dont like world peace and who just have aim to spread hate around
15:31 May 23, 2011 by Mr Positive
A question for the Gothenberg against racism / Left Party. - If you were trying to build a church, how many Muslims would be in the crowd supporting you?
17:47 May 23, 2011 by technoviking
@ mir81

Your response would be funny were it not so predictable.

Taqiyya 101:

Lie #1: Say that Islam is peaceful and hope no one questions it. If the welfare paying infidels look for themselves and see the truth then...

Lie #2: Say the passages were taken "out of context" as though you have an ability read better than we do. One can see the context of the passages themselves and see that it makes no difference. Islam labels women as inferiors, catalogues every imaginable horror for the infidels and sanctions anti-semitism and pedophilia.

And I'm sure now you'll get to the next step...

Lie #3: Say we infidels can't understand because you can't read it in Arabic. Which is of course BS since we can read credible translations by Muslims themselves written for the faithful.

Everything I said is true and verifiable ... People are welcome to look for themselves and unfortunately for you, these days, they are looking hard.

The one thing we can agree on is that Islam doesn't only force itself on people...

It also offers us the choice to be Dhimmis (slaves), to convert, or to die. Thanks for the options.
17:54 May 23, 2011 by Dave N
The Koran is brimming over with violent instructions and insulting references to non-believers - but quite apart from that, the Hadith show what a violent intolerant man Mohammad was. He had people brutally assassinated, dealt in slaves ( even swapping two girls for one who he really fancied) and was responsible for the massacre of hundreds of defenceless prisoners of war. No amount of lies and spluttering denials by Muslims can alter what is written in their own scriptures.

Islam is a dangerous, intolerant ideology and has no place in a civilised country.
18:19 May 23, 2011 by mir81
@DAVE.

and

@Tecnoviking

I am Muslim and I know very well what Islam teaching are ........ I am not going to pass further comments because I know it must be fruitless .... u have made your mind against Is lam which is unchangeable .....

Go ahead with your hate against Muslims and islam and we know very well how we have to survive ....... Chill now
19:42 May 23, 2011 by wenddiver
What is the address of the Mosque, I represent the ACME company and a Mr. Wile E. Coyoyte has placed a product order with us, for deliver to them.
23:12 May 23, 2011 by technoviking
@ mir81

"I know very well what Islam teaching are"

So do we...

@ wenddiver

Hahahaha. ;)
01:22 May 24, 2011 by Smartone
@ technoviking and Dave:

If you are infidels why are so interested in Islam? Simply stick with what you believe in. You can not rotate the world globe.

Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, democracy, moderation,and individualism are symbols of West. So don't fall apart from your own values!
14:15 May 24, 2011 by technoviking
@ smartone

Because Islam is a violent authoritarian political ideology the sells itself with religion.

And it's hellbent on shaping the world in it's image as they are instructed to do.

We wouldn't care if they weren't trying to colonize Europe with their nasty, hateful, primitive beliefs.

Tolerance is great unless you are dealing with an intolerant fascist cult that fully intends to capitalize on your tolerance and use it against you to spread it's own intolerant, totalitarian madness.

This is the new Nazism. Educate yourself.
00:03 May 25, 2011 by jimmy1988
@Technoviking: I agree with you, before I wrote this comment I read the Quran and it shows really that muslims should kill the unbelivers(Christians and Jews), Quran doesn´t tell if is in self defence or something else it just said that muslims should kill all the infidels.
10:08 May 25, 2011 by What?
Just see how much commotion this article created!

The comments are still going and going.

Obviously nobody likes moscs or muzzies in Sweden! They need to move home to the desert and pray to their buried sand god and Allaballa who never existed!
09:45 May 28, 2011 by infidel2012
@ foordranata

"I would not mind a mosque

As long as it is quiet."

I agree, the acceptable sound will be of the crackling wood burning from the remnants.

@mir81 and ALL muslims...

Here's a demonstration of Freedom of Speech...

Vilks Lars is Awesome!

Muhammad is indeed a DOG : )

Know islam... NO Peace.

NO islam... Know Peace.

I HATE muslims!
22:27 May 29, 2011 by wenddiver
Build a Pig Farm around each and every one,
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