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Malmö mayor: time to try 'temporary' citizenship

Malmö mayor: time to try 'temporary' citizenship

Published: 07 Oct 2011 12:39 GMT+02:00
Updated: 07 Oct 2011 12:39 GMT+02:00

On Friday, Reepalu suggested deporting criminals and introducing 'temporary' citizenship as ways to help combat crime in Malmö in the wake of continuing problems in the city's Seved district.

“I believe this should be applied more often; that more active criminals who are not Swedish citizens should be deported,” said Reepalu to the Sydsvenskan newspaper.

During the spring, the problems in Seved grew more extreme and a massive police surveillance programme was initiated. But lately the problems have returned.

Postal workers in the area now carry a personal alarm and many residents say they don't dare go out at night.

A gang of young men has been identified as responsible for the violence and disruption.

“We cannot have a society where children who are struggling in school see these young men leading a criminal lifestyle and controlling the whole area just because everyone is afraid of them,” said Reepalu.

With the high police presence in the area during spring, crime decreased by 25 percent.

Now Reepalu is calling for a larger effort by the police.

According to police superintendent Henrik Stiernblad, police presence is already high although he told TT that there are plans to increase it even further.

“We must acknowledge the fact that there are individuals in the area who believe they can commit a crime without any repercussions,” he told Sydsvenskan.

Reepalu also wants to introduce a type of temporary citizenship for new immigrants as a way to curb crime.

“A model where it is relatively quick to gain Swedish citizenship, but which entails a few years’ probationary period in which someone who commits a serious crime doesn’t yet have protection against deportation,” Reepalu told the TT news agency.

“It seems many of the serious criminal gangs come here and keep a relatively low profile until they get their citizenship. Then, once established here in Sweden, they develop a platform for international criminal activity.”

Reepalu said that apparently jail time given for these serious crimes is not enough to deter criminals.

"According to those I have spoken to, the only real threat in this situation is deportation. And it is clear that we cannot do that today within the rules for Swedish citizenship, where all Swedish citizens are equal," he told Sydsvenskan.

When asked whether the temporary citizenship amounted to some form of second-class citizenship, Reepalu said that immigrants are already treated differently.

“You are a second class citizen before you get Swedish citizenship and today there is a rather long period of time before that.”

Reepalu initially received support from Social Democrat judicial policy spokesperson Morgan Johansson.

"This is a measure worth trying. And it is of course linked with faster processing times," he told the TT news agency.

However, prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt quickly dismissed the idea of having different "levels" of citizenship.

“We have proposed many ways to to tighten the penalties for serious crimes regardless of who the perpetrator is. The frustration in Sweden is that there are far too many crimes not leading to prosecution. But that should not get mixed up with citizenship, which can not be divided up into sections or subcategories,” said Reinfeldt.

“Either you're a citizen or you're not,”

Linus Bylund, press secretary to Jimmie Åkesson, head of the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats, told news agency TT that his party has been making a similar proposal for years.

The Sweden Democrats now applaud the Social Democrats for embracing this initiative.

“They called us ugly names for this yesterday, but today they stand behind it as their own proposal," Bylund told TT.

Later on Friday, however, Social Democrat party leader Håkan Juholt distanced himself from Reepalu's proposal.

"The solution to gang criminality isn't temporary or second-class citizenship. Let me be clear on this point," he said in a statement.

Mariam Osman, a member of the Social Democrat's governing board, also slammed the Malmö mayor's suggestion.

"This smells like pure racism," she told TT.

"We can't have have people divided into two categories."

TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

Your comments about this article

13:55 October 7, 2011 by andyron2
Sounds like a good suggestion by the Mayor but how much time it takes to try it,if at all it gets a go ahead is to be seen.
14:15 October 7, 2011 by jacquelinee
Great idea. Anyone who does not follow the laws of the land they are living in (even if it is the land of their ethnicity) should have their ctizenship revoked as they do not deserve it. The non ethnic swedes should be deported, the ethnic Swedes have social benefits revoked that are payed by taxpayers. Easy. If they do not abide by the law of the land they do not receive the benefits of the laws of the land. Those who have emigrated here who do not follow the laws of the land get a one way ticket out of it and their passports revoked.
14:36 October 7, 2011 by occassional
The horse has bolted Mr. Mayor.
15:00 October 7, 2011 by Svensksmith
Grab your fiddle, Mayor, the town is burning.
15:02 October 7, 2011 by dolphin, the
I don't see the need for ''temporary citizenship''. Once a naturalised citizen shows that he has no regard for the law of his new home country, he should be stripped of his citizenship and deported from the country forever.

According to the article and news from the media, it looks like police has already lost the upper hand in Malmö. It's very sad to hear that political correctness is valued more than the safety of residents. What a shame!!!
15:39 October 7, 2011 by Grokh
why dont they just put on the law that someone wont get citizenship if they have criminal background, as well as reserve the rights to kick immigrants out of the country if they commit crimes .

aka if someone doesnt want to get kicked out of the country just dont commit crimes... solved.

Dont think anyone can argue against that, i mean who is gona stand up and defend criminal rights to commit crime -_-x
15:51 October 7, 2011 by muscle
really good idea.
16:05 October 7, 2011 by Kaethar
I can see both sides to this argument. Because what's the point in having a probation period if these criminals will then wait that period out as well? Unless the probation period is 10+ years. Then I support the initiative. Otherwise it's quite pointless...

And I disagree with Reinfeldt - this is not "levels of citizenship" - probationary periods are common when signing social contracts and there's no reason why this canno be used for citizenship either which is after all a social contract between the state and individuals. If the Social Dems continue to make good decisions like these I may have to consider switching my vote to them in the next election. I won't be the only one and Reinfeldt should be keeping that in mind...
16:13 October 7, 2011 by canuk
The probation period should be UNLIMITED! you are not a citizen of the country, you must be have. Also the condition should be made retroactive 20 years, that would solve many of malmös problems.
16:52 October 7, 2011 by ctinej
Stop importation, initiate Sterilization, and increase deportation. Sweden will be destroyed if you don't.
17:17 October 7, 2011 by lovedealer76
This subject is just to test people desperation in becoming swedish citizen,having a swedish residency is good enough,for those who think swedish passport is life breath then this should really worry them thoughts,lol
17:23 October 7, 2011 by Jorrs
Great idea, live by the laws of the land or leave back to your own country.
19:06 October 7, 2011 by tadchem
Naturalized (chosen) citizenship requires dedication and committment, just as a marriage.

Would you participate in a 'temporary' marriage?

Serious (i.e. violent) crime should be sufficient grounds for revocation of the privelege of citizenship, just as serious violation of marriage vows should be grounds for revocation of the marriage contract.

As for 'deportation', why should Sweden inflict such a dangerous misanthrope on a friendly country without permission?
19:08 October 7, 2011 by Smiling Canuk
Looks like Sweden has created its own monster. If you deport them, please don't send them to Canada.
19:12 October 7, 2011 by canuk
why would sweden send people of middle east or african or whatever origine to canada, are you from newfoundland per chance....
19:35 October 7, 2011 by Abe L
Why limit it to serious crime? Why not any crime?

Upon crime, deport and ban permanently. In the event of a serious crime, deport their whole family so it gives them something to think about before committing the crime.

And well simply prevent by not allowing new people without a job and proper future ahead of them into the country.
20:17 October 7, 2011 by jostein
Too little, too late. We are dead already.
20:20 October 7, 2011 by Investor612
I didn't see the mayor saying only Asian, black or Arab new immigrants who commit crimes should be stripped of citizenship deported, but white immigrants spared.

So how is it racism?
20:51 October 7, 2011 by johan rebel
"We can't have have people divided into two categories."

What on earth does the nutter Osman mean?

People can be divided into any number of categories. I should imagine that it is most useful to distinguish betweeen the categories "criminal" and "law-abiding citizen".
21:38 October 7, 2011 by johnoleson
@investor

Those who call it racism are implying a higher expectation of conduct for white immigrants and assuming the white person's country of origin is not very unpleasant to return to because they're white.

So who are the true racists?
22:24 October 7, 2011 by vezna
Yes-They are still chopping off people's limbs and Africa and the Middle East and you worry about the human rights of people who are being deported for being hard criminals.DEPORT Them.Sweden never colonized and is not an immigration country.

I cannot understand why they are bringing in so many migrants anyway.
22:31 October 7, 2011 by Dr. Dillner
Deport them to Iran maybe?
22:51 October 7, 2011 by johnoleson
@vesna

Ah, no. I think Sweden is in grave error to import troubled people to begin with. Sweden's system is designed to handle Sweden's unique culture and is wholly unprepared to handle crime from hardcore countries. Sweden and it's people's interests are not being served by it's current immigration policies.
23:42 October 7, 2011 by Coalbanks
What about dependant minors? WHAT ABOUT THOSE BORN IN Sweden, & still dependant on the deportee? Meanwhile here in Canada the (Progressive?) Conservative gov't is actively seeking out & deporting people who have been ordered by the courts to leave the country but "disappeared" instead. If I were convivted of a crime I doubt IO would be given the opportunity to deliver myself to the local prison to be incarcerated but deportees get to go home & prepare to be deported! These include Central American death squad members, drug dealers, thieves, some who came to Canada as adults, others as dependant minor children, some as immigrants & some as refugees. Time to reconsider how easily we accept immigrants & how difficult it is to refuse or to deport the undesirables among the many others who are law-abiding & become useful citizens.
23:50 October 7, 2011 by graceolsson
It´s sound correct, yes! Only those who are NATIVE can´t be deported.I don´t understand Why Sweden is bringing in SO MANY IMMIGRANTS. WHY? WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT COUNTRY?

I dont understand.

I lived many years in Sweden but I did not accept citizenship WHILE I wasn´t prepared to be a Swede. When I applied for it, I received c itizenship in 7 days.

To accept a citizenship requires more than a new passport. If a person came to Sweden and is involved in crime...should leave Sweden ASAP.

If Sweden won´t think by that way, sooner or later, we will live in one of the most dangerous European society.
00:35 October 8, 2011 by crudstud
the news report mentioned a gang of young people doing crime, but of course refused to say what ethnicity they were. we do the same thing in America. Welcome to the club of pathetic losers. If natural citizens of sweden don't have the brains to protect they culture by being careful who they allow to emigrate, you will definitely lose their country. where is the line where fair mindedness becomes laughable stupidity?
00:59 October 8, 2011 by Uncle
On one hand, this gentleman justifies attacks on Jewish swedes because of their assumed "support" of the state of Israel

http://www.thelocal.se/30884/20101216/

On the other, apparently when the crimes are committed against christians, he seems to be on fire against the immigrants. Mmm, what does this make him look like?

All of a sudden a heroic fighter against the violent immigrants, or just a simple half-brained redneck nazi, for whom the "benefit" of pounding a 90 y/o Jewish Holocaust victim into the asphalt sometimes is outweighed by the mass rape and burglary of the sweet christians, by the SAME people? I would not be so rash as to praise him.
01:49 October 8, 2011 by glamelixir
What exactly is racist of this? It is just common sense to me.

If I have a roommate and he steals from me I kind of have the right to kick him out, right? is that racist?
02:30 October 8, 2011 by philster61
The UK did it with extremists who promoted violence and hate. They rescinded Abu Hamzi's passport. Well done Sweden. Its about time you took a stance like this.....I respect the laws here and don't commit crimes. Although I don't need to have citizenship.(EU citizen) . If you acquire Swedish citizenship, then I think you are bound even more to the responsibility....Why should anybody else be different... acquired citizenship is a responsibility as well as a right.....
04:20 October 8, 2011 by gh2008
citizenship is no citizenship if someone can take it away.
05:53 October 8, 2011 by johnoleson
Not true gh08. From ancient times criminals were exiled from the tribe when the tribe no longer wanted to put up with them. This has a long Nordic history behind it and it shows mercy to the criminal as well as promoting the well being of the tribe.
07:48 October 8, 2011 by bells on the knight
Not only ancient times. It happens in other countries too unless you're born there, which I agree with.

You're granted citizenship and if you show that you're not happy with your choice through e.g. criminal actions you should be stripped of it.
08:53 October 8, 2011 by ctinej
I dont understand why good people just sit and watch their city and country being destroyed. Do you sit and watch cancer destroy your body?

The longer you wait to fight it , the harder it will be to get rid of it.

You sit and watch them have 8 kids. The world is already being killed by too many people. Do some math. 8 kids is 400% more. 85% of the crime in Sweden is Immigrant related. You are going to have a 400% increase in that!!!! The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree!!!

And you just sit and watch it happen.
09:20 October 8, 2011 by OUIJA
It would be a good idea, whether the government likes it or not. Citizenship in Sweden is granted to undesirable people and not granted to those who deserve it. With this policy, Sweden will keep on going down and down and down.
09:48 October 8, 2011 by mhsyed
I am astonished to see the strange immigration ploicy of sweden where the highly qulified international students are asked to leave the country after completing their studies and criminal minded, uneducated people of war effected countries are granted with residence permit.
09:55 October 8, 2011 by OUIJA
And down and down we go. No exit. No future.
10:51 October 8, 2011 by Just_Kidding
To allow only a few out of 6 billion in the world to become citizens of your country might be considered racit (but this is what every country does) but kicking out criminals from your country is not racist at all. However, would the probationary period in citizenship would mean smaller rights for law abiding immigrants and refugees? Would it affect their chance of finding a job? Would they get a Swedish passport in the probationary period?
11:21 October 8, 2011 by OUIJA
To all:

I am new around here, so let me explain to you my credo:

I don't smoke

I don't drink

I don't open my mouth before my brain

I don't discuss politics

I don't discuss religion

I don't discuss feminism

I don't discuss sexual preferences

I don't discuss stupidities

I don't discuss other people's opinions

I don't discuss comments about my comments

I do comment the stories

I do give facts when needed

I do provide links when needed

I do like thinkers

I do write politically incorrect

I do like humanity

I do love this world

I do love you all until proven the opposite

I hope you understand my position so that we avoid future misunderstandings.
12:16 October 8, 2011 by Uncle
Who cares?
12:52 October 8, 2011 by Rebel
What #35 said.
14:17 October 8, 2011 by Torpedo
I second Fredrik Reinfeldt's statement. It is immeasurably futile to categorize citizenships because united we stand and divided we fall. However, the politician should preferably stay more focused on cutting-down unemployment which is the core aspect of crime.
14:43 October 8, 2011 by peter franzen
Resorting to racism to deal with crime is not the solution.

Law enforcement and punishment should be effective, a deterrent and applied equally to everyone.

Any departure from this would bring Sweden into disrepute.
15:03 October 8, 2011 by jacquelinee
a repost

Great idea. Anyone who does not follow the laws of the land they are living in (even if it is the land of their ethnicity) should have their ctizenship revoked as they do not deserve it. The non ethnic swedes should be deported, the ethnic Swedes have social benefits revoked that are payed by taxpayers. Easy. If they do not abide by the law of the land they do not receive the benefits of the laws of the land. Those who have emigrated here who do not follow the laws of the land get a one way ticket out of it and their passports revoked.
15:50 October 8, 2011 by skatty
"It seems many of the serious criminal gangs come here and keep a relatively low profile until they get their citizenship. Then, once established here in Sweden, they develop a platform for international criminal activity."

As far as I know, it takes five years to get citizenship, does it mean that criminals have five years break, and as soon as they get their citizenship, the vacation will finish?
16:16 October 8, 2011 by Shredder
Funny how the racism card always gets thrown in...

I have lived in Sweden for 4 years now, with a resident permit, and have recently applied for Swedish citizenship. I see no obstacle in my path that would prevent it from being granted to me even though I am a 36 year old black man who has been on the unemployed/employed rollercoaster and didn't decide that a life of crime would be the better path.

We all have choices.

So, whatever ethic background you may be, if you come here and decide to play the ass, then how does race factor into the consequences you inevitably invite upon yourself? How can a society that wants to maintain the safety of all its peoples, of all denominations, be wrong for wanting to expel the very people who threaten that very attainable reality?
16:26 October 8, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ Shredder

I but it. I am a white female and have been here 4 years. I follow the law also inspite of the same difficulties. I do believe if you abuse the rights this country has graciously opened up to you, you should get the boot back. But where can you boot out those who were born here and whose families have lved here for generations when they abuse the laws? There are some bad ethnic Swedes here also (as well as the good ones) who I would like to see get the boot too when they disregard the law and jeopardise the safety and well being of those who follow it..
16:51 October 8, 2011 by Shredder
There are bad people wherever you go, and if you have qualified for and have been granted citizenship, then you have all the rights afforded to you. However, no matter your background (native or not) you are obliged to follow the laws of the land, and should be punished accordingly.

I am not for this secondary class of citizen or any rubbish like that. If the governing authority has checked you out (as they should anyone who is applying) and decided to grant you citizenship, they can't turn around later and say because you have now committed a crime AND are not originally Swedish your punishment is going to be different. That makes no sense.

If someone already has a criminal background, and you have already allowed this person to enter the country anyway, then if you have a law that says because of your criminal history you cannot be granted citizenship, then so be it. They know that coming in.

So, if you are one of those people who fall into that category and decide to stay anyway and have a baby or 2 who are automatically Swedish citizens at birth, then just like anywhere else, if you commit yet another crime in this land, you're going to face a very hard reality which now involves the lives of your offspring. I mean, if everyone who has children never commited a crime, then the world would be a better place. The reality is that people are people, and for whatever the reason, we will always have crime. The most a governing authority can do is hope to reduce it.
19:44 October 8, 2011 by esvahnt
it seems sweden has to reicive all third world people

there is no room for 6 billion where there are 8 milloin only

i would ask all non whites to live sweden

this is not their country .they are allready two millions here
00:49 October 9, 2011 by JaneL
If people are allowed to move to here and end up contributing to society in a negative way, as in breaking serious laws, then the system shouldn't have to support them. How can that be expected?

In breaking Swedish law the initial agreement of citizenship should be terminated. Like any job, residency should come with probation. Sweden has opened it's borders because it's a country with humanity but is subsequently too soft on implementing laws or thinking about itself. Put your foot down Sweden.
05:48 October 9, 2011 by helopm
A crime is a crime, not only in Sweden, but in the world.

If you kill somebody in Sweden or in Australia, that is a crime in both countries.

So, it shouldn`t be a discussion about minor or major crimes. A crime is a crime.

So, if a swede kills, goes to prison. If an immigrant swede kills, goes back to his country. I do not believe that a person behave well in life UNTIL being a swedish citizen. Than, the person suddenly TURNS to a criminal. It smells that Sweden is giving the permission to be a swedish citizen without investigating the past. Somethins is very wrong, because its too rare that someone just get into a criminal life after being an adult.... hmmm
07:05 October 9, 2011 by lovedealer76
@helopm

you've said some pretty wise words here mate, after been through all these comments.

As i've noticed many write without thoughts or should i say not reasonble enough
08:52 October 9, 2011 by bells on the knight
remember that many of these "poor" immigrants come from war torn areas and it's only natural to bring their habits with them. If they think it's so bad from where they came from why do they behave like thugs to any country granting them citizenship?

But NO the foreign students can't get a job in Sweden. How ridiculous isn't that.
16:12 October 9, 2011 by non_white
You Swedes are fool to give full citizenship with voting rights to these criminals.. You will understand this only after 40-50 years. Any way I don't care.. but it is sad to see you people spoiling your own country. I thought Swedes are very intelligent. If you don't know how to live and protect your country then there is no use being too intelligent.. You reap later what you sow now..
19:35 October 9, 2011 by saar
It is way too easy to get the citizenship in Sweden. No language test, no any test whatsoever. One can commit a crime and still be eligible for the citizenship. Political correctness trumps common sense.
21:26 October 9, 2011 by johnoleson
For three thousand years Nordic's have been seeding the world with their adventurous and courageous people and it appears to have drained the lifeblood from those who were left behind. The Vikings have all gone and the timid who are left behind don't have enough life essence to even reproduce themselves or maintain their identity. The simplistic and selfish ease of lifestyle has sold out the future of Scandinavia. The goose that laid the golden eggs is being cut open. But do not despair, the Viking still lives but not in Sweden.
06:32 October 10, 2011 by JoeSwede
Fun stuff. Maybe they should send ships out to other countries to bring in more war refugees but as answer number 35 stated... never let a international student stay. There must some logic to this...
13:11 October 10, 2011 by RobinHood
The mayor has driven out his Jews, is on a Simon Wiesenthal center watch list, and is stealing policy from the Sweden Democrats.

The mayor's a n..... BONG. The mayor's a n........ BONG.

People who haven't seen Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
17:54 October 11, 2011 by OUIJA
""Protect us, oh Lord, from the fury of the Norsemen."

A furore normannorum libera nos domine ("From the fury of the Northmen deliver us, O Lord!"), attributed to monks of the English monasteries plundered by Viking raids in the 8th and 9th centuries.

They were adventurous and courageous people
19:36 October 11, 2011 by native swedish
what for the native swedish if he/she commits serious crime? where the natives shall be deported?
21:23 October 11, 2011 by johnoleson
OK OUIJA, Point well taken but killing and plundering aside, they were major explorers and traders. They mingled all the way from America to Sicily and beyond, and to the East. The Irish are sometimes known as shipwrecked Norwegians they carry so much of the Scandinavian blood as do the British and the French. But back to the point-Collective guilt for past successes in domination and prosperity is not an excuse for self annihilation 8 centuries later.
06:14 October 13, 2011 by nathan45
@ comment 53 exactly my thoughts I live in canada and we have the same problem.
07:17 October 13, 2011 by Biorealist
Very sensible, I hope they introduce this.

Also, my message would be to ignore the colleagues who pull the racism card. They have no arguments and should be ignored.
18:09 January 13, 2012 by Chickybee
Hijadists only want a passport for one reason - that Sweden is just another part of Mohammed's world.
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