February 9, 2010
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Swedish tabloid newspaper Aftonbladet has been reported to the Chancellor of Justice (JK) after publishing an article forwarding claims about the alleged organ harvesting of dead Palestinians by Israeli defence forces.
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What is evident however from its attack on both Norwegians and Swedes alike is that Jerusalem has an agenda to display the Scandinavian people as hateful and vile Nazi-admirers, or at the very least anti-semitists. Thankfully, I have to say, the joke is on Jerusalem. Having had a few Swedish Jews as coworkers I and them with me can testify there hasn't a single isntance of racial hate or violence committed against them throughout their entire lives. We have all enjoyed each others camaraderie.
So please, stop hating. Investigate the article if you like, but please keep your racial-superiority thoughts to yourselves. Or best of all, throw them away. :)
Close the case and stand up to right wing Israeli bullying.
World Jewry reacts … to wonderful Sweden… trial by peers and the jury is out for lunch. ….maybe the case should be moved to Nuremberg?
In the annals of tha Theatre of the Absurd this is one of the most absurd statement of the post-holocaust century :
"The article focuses on the Israeli army, and Israel is not made up solely of Jews," ( Herr Nils Funcke) Perhaps he is thinking of the "mixed multitude that accompanied Moses outta Egypt.?
It's less of a legal brain and more of socio-logical awareness that comments thus:
And by extension / analogy an article that focused on the Nazi army could be exonerated because Germany is/ was not made up solely of Germans ( or Jews, or other victims of the holocaust).
This takes the biscuit and a little more looking into…..
Give me a 2,000 word limit and I'll come up with a fictional story, slightly less absurd than Funcke's that statement. I'll pen it tonight. Nothing Swiftian about it, just a direct appeal to sense and reason and even a little less of an absent imagination.
It's quite unpleasant having to read the escalation of words arising from so much emotion:
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16578#comments
Real reporters verify their facts and their stories. Yellow journalists do not. This piece of work does indeed raise the spectre of Blood Libel, which was the intent. Poke the bear and watch it snap. Report the snap. Be surprised by the snap Report the surprise - Sell more "newspapers" - ad nauseum. This does nothing to advance Palestinian needs, which are legion. How typical. How Stupid. How Boring.
There is no credible evidence to support the story. At the same time, the Israelis lose every p.r. and propoganda battle out there. They have become viewed as monsters and are frustrated. Both the Jordanians and Egyptians refused to take back the West Bank and Gaza after the 67 war, leaving the israelis stuck with a lot of perpetual bickerers to rule while there is no real negotiating partner to get out of the impass. They just pulled out of Gaza, through the keys back to the locals, and look what happened ! They are as tight as a coiled spring with no sense of humor about any of the lunacy. And the Swedish gov,t joined the ruckus !!Mon Dieu !!
1. The Israeli Minister of Health, Nessim Dahhan, admitting to the practice in an answer to Arab member of the Knesset, Ahmed Teibi. Dahhan said that he couldn't deny that organs of Palestinian youths and children killed by the Israeli forces were taken out for transplants or scientific research. Ahmed Teibi's claim he has received credible evidence proving that Israeli doctors at the forensic institute extracted such vital organs as the heart, kidneys,and liver from the bodies of Palestinian youths and children killed by the Israeli Army in Gaza and the West Bank.
2. The killing of three Palestinian boys, ages 14-15 near Khan Younison on December 30, 2001, and the return of bodies of the three boys to the Palestinians for burial a week later on January 6 2002 with the main vital organs missing from the bodies.
3. The local Tel Aviv paper Ha'ir ran a 12-page expose of Abu Kabir and revealed how the national lab allows medical students to practice on bodies sent there for autopsies, and transfers body parts for transplants without permission from the family of the deceased.
4. The family of a Scottish tourist Alastair Sinclair, who allegedly hung himself in an Israeli jail, who were forced to bring a lawsuit for the return of missing body parts. University of Glasgow
pathologists, who did an autopsy at the request of Sinclair's family, found that it had been returned without a heart (which they suspect was used for a transplant). [October 17, 2000 - http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/178/presumed-guilty]
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251145107193&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Ghanem's younger brother, Jalal, said he could not confirm the allegations made by the Swedish newspaper that his brother's organs had been stolen.
"I don't know if this is true," he said. "We don't have any evidence to support this."
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Ta da.
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Is she that clueless and blind to her agenda?
1. I agree with you that it would have died out unless Israel did not make a fuss.
2. However, I disagree about "censoring". It is not about Censoring anything. Israel never asked the Swedish gvmt to Censor this or to apologize for it. The request is to make its position. I think the problem here is that in Sweden freedom of speech means gvmt cannot criticize the media. In Israel every person (including gvmnt) have FREE SPEECH to criticize anything - including media.
3. There is a point where there is a a greater interest. This article was pure hate propaganda:
- it was in the"opinion" pages
- the author and the newpaper both say they have no proof.
- the family is saying they don't know if its true
- but the title is meant to spread disinformation and hate... At the end of the day, I do not think it will do much good to Sweden's reputation either. It will definitely alienate it in Israel and will diminish Sweden's role in any type of influence position to "do good".
None of the anecdotl "evidence" you cite has anything to do with the specific case and charge at hand. Because my neighbors or family members are alleged to have done something bad, does not mean I, me, myself have done something bad. In a democratic state governed by the rule of law, you have to have some proof, not guild by association. That's for undemocratic racist states and minds.....
Not to the families of the people mentioned, nor to the guilty parties concerned.
E.g. Hiss from the Institute of Forensic Medicine at Abu Kabir was "reprimanded" after a 'guilty' plea bargain. The allegation is that organs have been stolen from and in this one instance from youth who was alivebefore the IDF took hi (kidnapped him).
The story that the IDF can do this with impunity should really be the issue. NOT this ludicrous charge of anti-semitism.
And OF COURSE it "has something to do with the specific case"...!!! :-o R u serious??
It is further evidence of the allegation of organ theft from the bodies of killed Palestinian children. Can you read Swedish? Have you read the article? Or do you judge this whole thing without any real knowledge of what has even been written like most of the other Israeli supporters posting here?
5. "Prof. Yehuda Hiss, the director of the at Abu Kabir was under police investigation in 2002 for removing organs from deceased persons without familial consent. He was dismissed by the Health Ministry for a while until Hiss agreed to a plea bargain. He admitted to being involved in the removal of body parts from 125 bodies and was reprimanded for this. The stories about Palestinian Intifada dead arriving home with organs removed began soon after the outbreak of the Intifada in 1987. Palestinian pathologist Dr Hatem Abu Ghazaleh said there were many credible reports about this."
Friday, January 4 2002 "…Allegations made against [chief pathologist] Hiss in some cases include his taking organs without consent, placing the cardboard centre of toilet paper rolls and metallic rods in their place to fill the voids in the body and hide the theft of the organs.
A court-ordered search of the institute revealed large supplies of stored organs taken illegally from bodies. Over the past years, heads of the institute appear to have given thousands of organs for research without permission, while maintaining a "storehouse" of organs at Abu Kabir.
Organs belonging to soldiers killed in various circumstances were found in the institute during a surprise search this week. After consulting with Chief Chaplain Brig. Gen. Rabbi Yisrael Weiss, it was decided that in concert with the bereaved families, graves would be opened and the organs buried along with the remains of each soldier involved."
"I can't tell you if these rumors are true or not," the brother said.
"But in light of the investigative report in the Swedish newspaper, we are demanding an international commission of inquiry into the case."
How convenient. :)
My Swedish is limited but I have read a good transalation.....supposedly done by the newspaper itself.
If all the tangential calamities you cite were true there would have certainly been massive publicity and inbtervention by NGOs, Arab and Muslim states, Arab and Muslim media, run of the mill left wing and right wing extremist group press, UN resolutions, etc.etc. The Israelis are not angels,,,,,neither are the Palestinians nor their Arab/Muslim neighbors.
Let the author bring forward his evidence, and let that evidence be judged by the same standard of law as if jews were accusing muslims. You sound like a kind concerned person who is blind and naive......
It is the Kosher way to ascend criticism by claiming Anti-Semitism. Take it from an American, where Israel is supported blindly and any claim of solidarity is called Racism.
@dbrand
There are thousands or maybe millions of articles about Arabs. The funny thing is that this article is not even about Jews or Semists. It is about IDF.
Just as a reminder, this article is just about an army that its soldiers were wearing T-shirt illustrating a picture of a pregnant woman with a quote on it "Shot One Kill Two". about an army that targets Red-cresent ambulances, UN base and UN protected school. This is an article about an army that drop sulphurous weapons to cause permanent injury on the Palestinians' skins,...
Dont mix up such sucking crimes with racism. Dont behave like an angels.
I hope that the paper will be sued. This will strip it of some money, prove that they are obvious and one-sided liars, as they have been for years now, get some understanding into the swedish minds. After all, Sweden is bending over every time a muslim is insulted when he THINKS that pigs head from France is Danish mocking. Sweden runs with apologies. Well, one can also see that Jews, unlike some, do not burn consulates. How ironic...
Oh, Iraniboy - have you heard about the war in Yemen that is raging now? Started a thread denouncing arabs yet? No? 2000 killed... Mmm.
Nobody has reacted to the statement "His teeth were missing"
Is that part of an Israeli Autopsy, to remove one's teeth?
And why do an Authopsy? To remove the bullets?
Sounds like a crime...
Maybe he was bored and felt he needed to replace his nice healthy teeth with gold caps. Maybe the rappers in the states took on this trend...
Remember, wearing gold is FORBIDDEN for Muslim men according to their scripture!
"I think it is a shame that whenever solidarity is shown for the Palestinians and criticism is directed again Israel, someone cries anti-Semitism."
This statement tells you there was a plot by the newspaper against Israel in or to show solidarity for the Palestinians.
The newspaper made-up a story, using free speech, and it proved nothing.
There is anti-semitism and Linderborg's statement shows it.
"Sorry but I feel the need to put some facts in here due to the rants of some proclaiming Sweden to be a moral and honest place to put your money in. During WWII Sweden supplied vasts amount of Iron Ore, Ball Bearings and other engineering parts to the Nazi war machine. Sweden even let them use their territory to invade Norawy. Also when Deutchmarks were in short supply, Sweden took payment in Nazi gold (or Jewish gold from its various sources eg teeth).....that gold is still here. It wasnt until 1943 when the Swedish govt realised they backed the wrong horse and switched sides. Intrinsically Swedes are opportunistic businessmen and today are huge exporters of arms. I am pro sweden believe it or not....but please stick to facts and the true nature of the country."
about freedom of speech, from WIKI:
"According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights.[21] Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography or "hate speech".[22] Limitations to freedom of speech may occur through legal sanction and/or social disapprobation."
Do no forget it's Sweden who closed a website because of a caricature which the Muslims didn't like.
And for all even trying to discuss the organ harvesting...just STOP. Grow up. everyone knows the article is false, you're just making a fool of yourselves.
We often make comments on stories we read, short and sweet and get on with the next story.
In the past few days, it has been taken over by the Israeli mis-information brigade. The Israeli and pro-Israeli posters who have commented on stories outside of the Aftonbladet story, have shown themselves to be ignorant and illiterate and to follow the lead of their Government spokesman to push the propaganda line that any slight towards Israel demonstrates that the whole world is anti-Semitic. I wonder in Netanyahu tried that line in London today when he had a meeting about the illegal Israeli settlements in occupied East Jerusalem?
All you Israelis please get off our web site and leave us Swedes and Expats living in Sweden alone.
You will not get condemnation of the Aftonbladet story from us or from our government. At some time in the future Aftonbladet MAY get a rap on the knuckles from Göran Lambertz when he gets back from his holidays but don't hold your breath. Until then just go away and leave us alone!!
If you don't like it, don't read it.
No one is forcing you to read.
If you do choose to read. STOP WHINING!!!!
"illegal Israeli settlements in occupied East Jerusalem?"
Who says it's illegal?
It's all withing Israel borders. If you don't like it, write a letter to the UN. They returned us the land.
Does Israel tell Sweden not to build in Stockholm??
No.
Mind your own business. Your country is no perfect, work on that before bugging others.
There you go again showing just how STUPID you are.
You hide under a pseudonym why don't you use your real name . What have you got to hide?
Re illegal settlements in East Jerusalem.
EVERYBODY in the whole world, from the United Nations down says that they are illegal. Israeli officials are evicting Palestinians from their homes in order to turn East Jerusalem into a Jewish only region. It is not within Israeli borders is Occupied territory.
Your infantile little mind says that Israel does not tell Swedes not to build in Stockholm! Perhaps you think that Israel has ,the right to dictate to the whole world!
I do not think that Sweden is perfect, like many countries it has it's good and bad points, I chose to come and live here because on balance it has more good than bad.
And do not come back to me with the old chestnut that I do not know anything about Israel. I have been to Israel many times. I had an Israeli partner for many years. And spent months in the country. My girlfriend eventually left Eretz Yisrael because of the bigotry of people like you. Dumb, numbskulls.
I have no opinion one way or the other as to the truth or lies of the Aftonbladet story. It is up to them to justify or otherwise the publication of the story. I started off thinking that it was most probably false but the vitriolic response attacks from the Israeli thugs such as yourself make me wonder
Why not take a read of the words of the sensible Israeli press and just SHUT UP
NAHUM BARNEA IN YEDIOT AHARONOT
"The story... is certainly a contemptible story - the press at its worse. Yet the campaign Israel's government is conducting against Sweden following publication is no less untenable. This is a base, cynical campaign that proves that the foreign minister in Netanyahu's government thinks only of internal needs - his internal needs."
LIRAN LOTKER IN CENTRIST MA'ARIV
"Like the uncompromising demand for an apology from the Swedish government, the Israeli attack on the newspaper was like a gift from heaven for Aftonbladet that turned the story into 'struggle for freedom of the press in Sweden'... A simple, direct reaction by the Foreign Ministry... would have caused the story to disappear as early as the following day instead of becoming a diplomatic crisis from which no side gains."
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#136 19:40 August 26, 2009 by conboy
Just want to add my non-swedish support for their governments position condemning the shocking journalistic standards of Aftonbladet while defending the democratic stipulations of the Swedish constitution which protect the independence of the press. Shame on Aftonbladet and shame on Nethanayu and the Israeli Government!
When you start insulting and show your true face I know I'm making good points.
My name is Gal. I don't know why this is relevant.
"Israeli officials are evicting Palestinians from their homes" - no one is evicting anyone. except for Israel evicting Jews! to give more land to the palestinian-arabs.
"illegal settlements" - it's in OUR borders, therefore, It's legal. Nothing to argue here.
there are no more occupied territories. When 3-4 countries try to eliminate your country (without a reason except for - them not liking you) and don't succeed. NO, you CANNOT say:
"Oh we're sorry, can you give us the land back?" -NO!!! It does NOT work like that. ANYWHERE!!
Especially when they still try to kill you!!
And no, I'm not talking about Jerusalem. That's all ours. That's our Capital city!!
"Dumb, numbskulls." - again with the insulting. grow up please.
About what was said in Yedoit (one of our newspaper):
I totally agree!! Our government shouldn't have asked for condemnation.
It puts the Swedish government on a bad spot. from one hand , They don't want to do what Israel is telling them. On the other, Israel is right.
What should have been done is a lawsuit. A lawsuit against the Aftonbladet newspaper.
And not mentioning the Holocaust - Even if it's exactly the case. Freedom of speech to legit racism and hate.
Sweden as a country is well known as very hypocritical....a litle like the Swiss. Make money where there is tragedy and trauma ( i.e. WWII ). Avoid trouble ( Muslim extremists, Russian submarines in Swedish waters ). Expound noble principles, but not at the expense of money or risk taking ( i.e. Mohammet cartoons )A country based on principles ? In theory, yes. In practice, a joke.