• Sweden edition

Swedish pilot flew 13 years without licence

Published: 3 Mar 10 17:02 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/25330/20100303/

A 41-year-old Swedish man with a forged pilot's licence was arrested in the cockpit of a plane in Amsterdam on Tuesday evening as he prepared to take off for Turkey with 101 passengers on board.

The would-be pilot was apprehended in the cockpit of a Boeing 737 at Schiphol Airport just minutes before it was set to leave for Ankara.

Expressing relief that his duplicity had come to light, the Swede claimed he had flown for 13 years with a forged licence for companies in the UK, Belgium and Italy, spending a total of 10,000 unlicensed hours in the air.

Dutch police said they were able to arrest the 41-year-old on suspicion of holding a fake pilot licence thanks to a tip-off from the Swedish authorities.

The Swede, resident in Milan, had once possessed a Commercial Pilot's Licence (CPL) but this had long since expired, Dutch police said. He subsequently forged an Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL), the highest level of aircraft pilot licence and one which enabled him to fly large passenger planes.

An arraignment hearing has been scheduled for Friday, March 5th.

Following the arrest, Turkey's Corendon Airlines was quickly able to bring in a replacement pilot and the plane left for Ankara at the scheduled time.

Paul O'Mahony (news@thelocal.se/08 656 6513)

What do you think? Leave your comment below.

Fark It! Digg This  Share everywhere
Send to a friend Printable version Twitter This

Your comments about this article:

The comments below have not been moderated in advance and are not produced by The Local unless clearly stated. Readers are responsible for the content of their own comments. Comments that breach our terms and conditions will be removed.

17:44 March 3, 2010 by livinginsweden
A piece of paper does not determine how good a person can fly or drive......

He has not crushed his plane whereas many with a licence has crashed their planes.

ha ha
17:49 March 3, 2010 by sissygirl
the article doesn't tell much. Why did he not renew his liscense? The headline makes us think he was never qualified to fly.
19:02 March 3, 2010 by Furu
I am not sure how it went undetected for all these years.

Do you think his 10,000 unlicensed hours in the air should be counted for future employment positions.
19:33 March 3, 2010 by Osk
Outrageous. This person should be put away for risking passengers lives. He should renew the licence every five years why was this not picked up. Living in Sweden may say its a bit of paper - its not. You need to fly many more hours, take more exams to upgrade form a CPL to an ATPL. Obviously he did not do this therefore he put people at risk.
19:49 March 3, 2010 by wb882
Anything is possible, in the 20/21st century, don't you think.? Scarey though !
19:52 March 3, 2010 by wb882
This person would probably make a good private detective- if you can fly a plane for 10,000 hours without being rumbled, then i reckon he/she could do well in this field of work.
20:02 March 3, 2010 by Rick Methven
The Pilot in question had got his ATPL. What most probably happened is hie lost his job and would have been faced with paying himself for the upkeep of his licence which costs mega bucks.

So although he forged a licence, he would have done his simulator training every year, had medicals and was certainly fit to fly. He would have had conversion training on ant=y new aircraft types he has flown as well. So really not a safety question.

RELAX but insist on see the pilots licence next time you fly. Well they ask for ID when you buy something with a credit card...
20:03 March 3, 2010 by MyOpinion
"The would-be pilot was apprehended..." Would-be? He's been doing it for 13 years! You probably can't get anyone better.
20:09 March 3, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
The really interesting thing, I think, is who informed on him to the Swedish authorities. Estranged wife? Jilted lover? Angry kids? Anders Högstrom? Who?
20:15 March 3, 2010 by Osk
The article does not say he had an ATPL. How does anyone know if he did do the sim hours, the medical or did he forge that as well?
20:35 March 3, 2010 by Rick Methven
You clearly know sweet FA about aviation except how to fit your back side on the seat.

The article says

"The Swede, resident in Milan, had once possessed a Commercial Pilot's Licence (CPL) but this had long since expired, Dutch police said. He subsequently forged an Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL)"

a A CPL is a licence to fly multi-engined commercial aircraft and is the requisite qualification to get an ATPL. When anybody is employed to fly for an airline he must take a check to get the aircraft type that he is going to fly, on his licence. Thereafter he has to take annual medicals and concurrency checks with a line pilot employed by the airline. He was competent to fly but had not kept his licence current so forged one
20:42 March 3, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Do I have to set off alarm bells to get the attention of posters on this site?

I suggested Anders Högstrom having tipped off Swedish authorities about this pilot on Corendon Airlines.

Don't you think that the airline might not have asked too many questions about a pilot who was able to fly from Tel Aviv on to Warsaw and then on to NYO? Sounds a Mossad-based one to me, and what could have been involved in moving a lot of contraband, especially the Auschwitz entrance sign out of the country to Skavsta.

And don't you find it strange that the whole Högstrom question has gone surprising quiet over the past two weeks or so. What if he told Swedish police about the use of the airline, and the pilot's role in it, claiming that he was not officially licensed to fly?

Since they acted on it, and the pilot has essentially confessed, the case against Högstrom could be completely falling apart.
21:13 March 3, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
And why, just now, would the pilot be relieved by being exposed when he had been doing it for 13 years?

Somthing must have happened recently which he knew would lead to his exposure.

And what would that be?
21:16 March 3, 2010 by Rahelli
But he is a good piolt
21:37 March 3, 2010 by Twiceshy
10000hrs. he now has 10x the hours most regional jet captains have. give the man a new job! I will fly with him!
21:51 March 3, 2010 by dobermann
From this article it seems possible to fake and cheat in any possible situation. This story sounds almost as the movie ''catch if you can''. But look, he was flying for 13 years without any accident, so he can't be so bad.
23:22 March 3, 2010 by Osk
So why do you need to resort to personal abuse Rick? You know nothing of my background

You wrote in your first mail 'The pilot in question had a ATPL'.

In your second you quote the article which says he once had a CPL (long expired) and had FORGED an ATPL - so he did not have a ATPL according to the article - so why do you say he did..

A CPL may allow you to operate a multi engine aircraft but only if it single pilot operation (so a small commercial aircraft) or be a co-pilot on multi crew operations. But why did he forge an ATPL. Well that allows you to be a commander on the aircraft and that makes it a whole new ball game and requires a higher level of competence.
23:31 March 3, 2010 by Da Goat
I think Instead of charging him just give him a licence I think he might be qualified NOW

If he got away with it much longer they might as well give him retirement or at least a promotion. If you read carefully he is a trained pilot so there is/was no real safety issue (anymore) he has put in the hours. so in short he was a few years ago a naughty boy, now it is just bureaucracy going overboard. the regulators now have egg on their faces because they let him through, It would have been much better to secretly catch him and make him sit the exam for the licence he has been holding.... not tell everyone they mucked up big time by failing to catch him for 13 years ...Give the man a gold watch!
00:29 March 4, 2010 by PonceDeLeon
The real questions. Why did it take so long to catch him? Is he the only unlicensed pilot flying? Whose is responsible for this post 9/11 security breach? 13 Years? That's almost a career...
00:30 March 4, 2010 by rba
Just because he managed to fly for 13 years doesn't mean he had adequate training.

I've read that pilots routinely have training and exams to prove that they can handle a wide set of possible malfunctions and incidents. Many of these incidents are rare enough that a pilot can go for 13 years without facing them outside of these simulated training events. But if they DO happen in a real-life situation, you want a pilot who has taken the training as he's supposed to.
03:55 March 4, 2010 by Greg in Canada
"A piece of paper does not determine how good a person can fly or drive......"

Several years ago there was a "doctor" in Nova Scotia working in a hospital emergency room saving lives, etc, and apparently was very brilliant. Turns out he had fraudulent credentials and had never gone to medical school at all.
07:53 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
I find the articles and discussion about this pilot simply ludicrous - as if it concerned some kind of spy, and Säpo has a lid on any serious disclosures. Seems like that is what it really is.

For example, we, of course, do not know the pilot's name from even the Dutch and other presses, there is often no mention of even the airline's name he worked for, and no discussion of Corandon's management, certification, and routes, especially to Warsaw, Tel Aviv and Skavsta, the Transport Department knowing about his problems for years but somehow taking no action on it until recently, thanks to more tips, playing down his connections with Sweden though he was originally licensed and flew from here, etc.

Reminds me of all those CIA covert carriers during Iran-Contra, working particularly out of Mena's International Regional Airport in Bubba's Arkansas - what went on for years until that D-3 was finally shotdown by the Sandinistas.

And we live in Western countries with free presses!
08:07 March 4, 2010 by Puffin
The articles in the Swedish press say that Swedish agencies had warned about this pilot but had not successfully been able to pursue the matter given that:

- he did not live in Sweden

- he did not fly for a Swedish registered airline

- he did not fly in Swedish airspace

They had had several requests for confirmation of his credentials from airlines and had informed all who checked that he was not eligible to fly
08:15 March 4, 2010 by Gurkhan
Corendon Airlines? what kind of a company is that?..
08:18 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
What a pathetic reply, Puffin.

The TA allowed the concern about him somehow to lapse years ago, no one has said the Swede now lives in Sweden, the Corendon Airline for which he flew 10,000 hours does go to NRO, showing that it has used Swedish airspace, and he could have used it too. And why all the false claims about Turkey regarding his exposure and his flights?

And I find it quite unprincipled that the Swedish media is quite happy to broadcast Högstrom's name but protect the name of a pilot who endangered the lives of passengers for years because of his shortcuts with all the rules. He showed contempt for them while now being protected from public exposure.
08:22 March 4, 2010 by villjobba
If I owned an airline company, I'd hire that guy right away and promote him!
10:20 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
And that's why I am happy you don't own an airline, and are able to hire whoever you want to fly your planes.

I should have said NYO, the authority which runs Stavska, in my earlier post
11:19 March 4, 2010 by sherkovic
I think he has passed all his test successfully and deserve an original full scale license now!!!
13:35 March 4, 2010 by izbz
@Osk

Outrageous.....Sure is! But he sure have more experience after 13 years of flying. Iam quite sure I would mind be on his plane. They should maybe give him a fine and give him a license. Sure in this case he shouldn't go unpunish......hats off to him for all the safe flights.
13:36 March 4, 2010 by pallomamy
you very right sherkovic
14:00 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
From a post by a colleague on PPRUNE

Facts..

He was a Captain with Corendon, and the AMS base Captain

He was promoted in Air One about 1997-1998

He left Air One and flew briefly for a Leeds-based low-cost carrier, based in BFS

He has been a Captain with Corendon since 2008

I have worked with him and alongside him in all 3 airlines

He was extremely proficient in handling the B737, had training as TRI, and never had any problem with checks
15:10 March 4, 2010 by jazzIIIlove
According to turklsh resoureces;

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/sorguda-sucunu-itiraf-eden-cakma-pilot-un-isine-son/turkiye/sondakika/04.03.2010/1207011/default.htm?ver=50

He has passed all the stuff for the requirements but right now, he lost his job.

Let me say, I believe in experience more than education.
15:29 March 4, 2010 by mannorun
Indeed Swedes are not corrupt!!

hehe
16:08 March 4, 2010 by Osk
Ok how about in year 1 - without 10,000 hours behind him - false licence no experience - passengers at risk
16:15 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
I find the dogged support of this serious, long-time, rule-breaker beyond belief, especially the resorting to rumours about who this guy is.

If Greenfield is to be believed - what Rick posted - this guy must be a Siamese twin of the offender since he apparently has been with him on three different airlines, and apparently all his flights together!

For more rumours, see the link:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/407582-...-license-2.html

And don't miss the other rumour threads about it on the site.

The guy strikes me as a corrupt pilot who worked for corrupt airlines for corrupt purposes, or he would have been shot down long ago. My choice now is a secret agency involved in shipping stolen goods to Sweden and beyond.
16:19 March 4, 2010 by Osk
Aviation is safe - why is that? One reason is all the procedures you go through, the cockpit checks, the engineering checks, the paperwork and yes the licences that you study for and qualify for by passing exams and flying the prescribed number of hours. Don't bother with the licence then and start eating away at the very foundations that makes aviation safe across the world. Sure he bucked the system, he got away with it for years, he did not have accident but it is that system that keeps the passenger safe and he abused it. How many other short cuts did he take? Was he really in a position himself to judge first officers he flew with knowing he did not have a valid licence, When it comes to my safety, in an aircraft, I want the one that does it by the book and not the one that skips the chapter he can't cope with for whatever reason.
16:27 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
He had still passed his 737 checks and held a type rating.

NO Airline can or will allow a pilot who has not got a current type rating in the cockpit. And the CAA of the country where he is based must be shown the evidence that he has done his sim checks with the companies licenced TRE/IRE and that he has had an annual medical. In any case when he started, like all pilots, he flew the right hand seat. Read the quote from a colleague who knows him that I posted earlier he was made up to captain in 2008
16:36 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
Passengers where NEVER in danger from this guy. He is clearly a good pilot who has even studied and passed his Training Captains exam.

Take a look at pprune.org and find the thread ther where Professional pilots talk about the whole matter. There is NO suggestion in any of the posts that he was a danger to anybody. And these are the guys in the sharp end who are looking after their own lives ahead of those of the SLC ( Self loading cargo ) at the back
16:55 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Why aren't you at least responding to my post, or providing the link to the site, Rick?

The posts on PPrune show that there are all kinds of pilots in command, including possibly this one, who are not in control.

The only real check about flying abilities is if there is no accident. If he had ever had an accident, it would have been the end of the insurance companies.

And the posts show that the guy, besides working for Corendon, apparently worked for Air One, Jet2, Apollo Airlines, and Air Sweden, putting the lie to the claim that he never entered Swedish airspace, and explaining why TA is treating the matter like a spy case.

Why are you so protective of this unlicensed pilot?
17:25 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
Trow, I'm not protective of the Guy. But There are a lot of uninformed posts here that are trying to make out that he was dangerous which is not the case.

The guy learnt to fly most probably the same way as I did at a flying school and got a PPL he then went further and got an instrument rating and a twin engine rating for CPL which allowed him to fly as PIC in an aircraft with a max take-off weight of 12,500 lbs. If you dont get in enough hours in any year your licence lapses which seems to be what happened to him. He then forged a licence and went out job hunting, got a job and was trained on the 737 aircraft and got his type rating on that aircraft. he must have been checked at least once a year since then.

He is a cheat and most probably a bit of a Walter Mitty character but he is not and never has been a danger to passengers.

It is really a bit like claiming that you have the required certificates to get into University when you have'nt but study and pass your exams and get a degree
17:26 March 4, 2010 by Osk
You mean read the quote from the anonymous person writing on the Professional Pilots RUMOUR network, sort of The Local discussion board for aviation. Fact (well as reported) when he moved to the left hand seat, to command an aircraft he did not have a valid licence. If you work in aviation Rick surely you must see that it is the system that makes it all safe and the acts of this man have abused that system. He got away with it - that does not make him safe. It's not just the type ratings, its hundreds of hours more study to ATPL from CPL in theoretical issues, I guess he skipped that as well.
17:34 March 4, 2010 by Osk
Unless you flew with him why do you think you are in a position to declare he was safe? All you have is rumour on PPRUNE. To the world a pilot is safe if he has the correct licence having completed the required study, completed the required number of hours been tested on both and given the licence and subsequently renewed it at the right intervals. He did not have a valid licence so why should we think he is safe - because Rick says so?
17:38 March 4, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
I don't see how you can assume that the pilot was never a danger to anyone.

Were you too there with the know-it-all Greenfield? Were there no close incidents which could have resulted in a fatal crash if some qualified pilot had not been there to take the controls at just the last second, and to overlook it since everyone survived? Etc.

Still, I'm quite sure he ultimately learned the ropes, but what about the unnecessary near misses along the way.

And you do not address the vast problems which would have resulted if he were ever in an accident, one not even of his own making? It would have been the end of the airline, undoubtedly some insurance companies, etc. The pilot was a flying disaster in the making.
17:44 March 4, 2010 by simplesimon
He was a very naughty man because the airlines insurance would have been invalid in event of an accident so even if he did previously hold an ATPL and know how to fly any accident would not have been insured. His license must have been revoked for a valid reason.

So speaks an ex-military ATPL holder who drives big kites for a very large (and in the news a lot) British airline
17:49 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
I have worked in the aviation industry for over 40 years. I started on the route to be a pilot which usually starts with a PPL the an IR rating then a CPL then the theory to get an ATPL. I gave up after I got my PPL which also lapsed after a few years as I could not afford to pay for the 50 hours a year required to keep my licence current. This guy had got his PPL, IR and CPL but without a job where he could maintain the 100 hours a year required to keep his licence current it lapsed. To get a job flying he forged an ATPL which does allow you to be a Captain but is Frozen until you have a minimum of 1,500 hours flying as a co-pilot. Even after a pilot has the requisit hours to take command this very rarely happens until such time as he has merited the rank as eveidenced by his record and the annual check that he has done. No airline gives a guy a Captains job just because he says he has the hours. The licence is just a pice of paper to say that you have passed a test. his log book duly signed by the chief pilot is the record that says if he is capable. Until he was capable he was kept in the right hand seat.
17:56 March 4, 2010 by simplesimon
Dude I am a right hand seat pilot with vast experience. I hope you are not inferring that rhs pilots can't and do not run the ship. My background was as a captain in the RAF with plenty of action in A'stan and Iraq. The nature of many airlines means you cannot just skip to command as the majority do not work on merit. All pilots in my company require command ability (and many rhs pilots have been) and there is no fundamental difference other than the legal final say falls at the guy/girl in the left seat.
18:10 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
Thats right. I do not know this guy and he certainly is a cheat (who saved himself a load of money but you as a pilot know as well as I do that there are enough checks and balances in Civil (and Military aviation) to ensure that the aircraft is not put in danger by giving the left hand seat to somebody who is not capable. You may well do a better take-off or landing than the guy in the left hand seat but that does not put you in charge.

In my day you moved up in the right hand seat from smaller to bigger aircraft and when you did get offered the left hand seat it was usually back in the twin T/P you started off in.

It seems to me that some people seem to think that getting a pilots licence is like a car drivers licence pass one short test and bingo set for life
18:25 March 4, 2010 by simplesimon
Indeed Rick. Same opinion. Hope my airline survives. All a bit topical with strike threats. Cheers Dude
19:24 March 4, 2010 by Rick Methven
Well Ryanair looks likely to keep on going if you need a job

Aviation joke.

A guy is standing in a bar and another guy walks in, come up and orders a beer, he smells bad and is covered in toilet paper. The first guy says "you stink". The second guy says yes I do, I drive the honey waggon at the airport and sometime the valve gets stuck and the comes out the side and gets allover you just like now. First guy says "seems like a bad job is there nothing else you can do?"

"Plenty and better paid" says the guy. "So why not change jobs" says the first guy

To which the reply was...

"What, and leave aviation?"
19:34 March 4, 2010 by simplesimon
Yes very good.

Think I'd rather drive the 'Honey Wagon' than fly fro Ryan Air
20:47 March 4, 2010 by mannorun
@Rick Methven & Simplesimon

you guys can invite each other for a drink and blah blah amicably or in watever means you both deem necessary. :( hehehehe
21:31 March 4, 2010 by Buccaneer
@ PonceDeLeon

"The real questions. Why did it take so long to catch him? Is he the only unlicensed pilot flying? Whose is responsible for this post 9/11 security breach? 13 Years? That's almost a career".

This situation gives a good picture of employment in Sweden, if you are ethnic then your qualification or non qualification is better than any immigrant with a sound qualification for the same job.

I could make a bet that there are more like him in Sweden and outside Sweden.
21:55 March 4, 2010 by rba
People who are defending the guy should realize that these licenses, training programs and regular tests are in place for a reason.

Unless you are an authority on the matter and have something to tell us about the usefulness (or lack of it) of these programs, you should just shut up and let the pros do their job. That means not allowing people to pilot a plane unless they've followed all the necessary rules.
22:01 March 4, 2010 by Nilspet
I only one word about this very pilot--> "impressive" !

BETTER THAN TIGER WOODS !
22:24 March 4, 2010 by chaliboy
watch out! corruption is finding its stand in sweden nowadays. I believe there are a person or group of people who where protecting him in the swedish authority since all these years. a change of positions or authorities (appointment) might have played a big role here. Just like helicopter heist which is still a misery till today.
09:35 March 5, 2010 by ali_bin_umar
I think the pilot should now try to get licence now and resume his job. After all he had 13 years of flying experience.
09:47 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
That, of course, after he serves time for hijacking airliners.
11:37 March 5, 2010 by Sam1
catch me if you can!! now this guy is a proof that You can be what you want and you dont have to go through some stupid education system for doing something.

Now adays its the certificate that makes you a human not you!! if you dont study their stupid way!! you are void!! you have to study frueds Ideas to become a psychologist you have to learn some other dumb az ideas to become a sociologist.

BUT pilot doctor is something danerous!! thing to pretend
11:47 March 5, 2010 by Alex Coman
10.000 hours

Winters, storms, technical problems, all kind of difficulties...

He is a Teacher.
12:11 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Right, flying with him wasn't too bad after he got the hang of it, but the first flight was a bit scary after he failed to use full throttle on takeoff until reminded by his colleague, and he failed to put down the landing gear because of all the noise he was hearing from the control tower rather than the warning signal about the oversight.

Still, we all ended up safely in the corn field after the aircraft skidded down the runway without catching fire. Luckily it was a low-cost airline which only provided a few extra gallons of gasoline for each flight.

The second flight was a dream until he stalled on his final approach - luckily he was way too high, and had space and time of get out of it before we hit the ground.

Wouldn't fly now with any other pilot. Will make sure of using him once he gets over the bureaucratic

hiccup.
12:13 March 5, 2010 by Rick Methven
There are bold pilots and old pilots but there are no old, bold pilots

There I was upside down with nothing on the clock but the makers name
12:49 March 5, 2010 by wabasha
good for him! he held his middle finger at the system. i wonder how may others are getting away with it? every now and again a doctor get caught doing the same thing
12:53 March 5, 2010 by Leo ni leo
He should be charged for terrorism, obviously he terrorised the passegers with fake licence and risked their lives. Air travel is increasingly becoming dangerous and such cases just reveal how easy it is for terrorists to slip in and to fly planes and crash them at their own will.
13:03 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Now, by reading more posts on PPRUNE, I learned that the pilot is a former Swedish Air Force fighter pilot named Thomas Salme about whom there are most mixed reviews - i.e., from excellent to being mediocre at best. So much for Sweden's claims that they know nothing about him!

Shall ask my Swedish airline pilot friend if he knows the guy, or knows about him tomorrow.

Here is his blog:

http://www.hasselblad.com/hoc/photographer...omas-salme.aspx
14:52 March 5, 2010 by zeulf
So.... "Practice makes the Master" ? even in medicine.
15:18 March 5, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
So where do you find these so called 'claims'?
15:40 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Don't your know how to google things on the internet, Bender?

There are various articles about them, for example Scott Carmichael's which includes this: "Oddly enough, this was the second time he had been caught - Swedish cops arrested him several years ago for the same reason, but when they summoned him, he couldn't be found, so they just 'forgot' about it."

Seems the TA didn't want people to know how he got a license in the first place.

And for empty Swedish claims that they tried to get him, but couldn't because he did not live in Sweden, did not use its airspace, and did not use a Swedish carrier, see Puffin's post yesterday.
15:56 March 5, 2010 by plopp
But you said

well if they tried to arrest him ealier then that hardly counts as a 'claim' that they know nothing about him. The opposite surely?
16:02 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
To forget about something, Plopp, results in one allegedly knowing nothing about it.

I see no purpose in quibbling about what I am saying when the fault is with this pilot who forged a license, the authorities which gave him whatever documents he had, and airlines which took them seriously.
16:16 March 5, 2010 by plopp
Not sure I understand what you just said there. Does that mean that next time I 'forget' my wife's birthday I'm off the hook since forgetting means I know nothing about it?
16:32 March 5, 2010 by Kieruk
I just heard from a reliable source that actually he didn't do any of the flying himself, but supervised others taking control, and so was not a threat to anyone, but was just doing it as we liked to holiday in lots of places, and it gave him a good excuse to get away from his wife.

FACT
18:05 March 5, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
So, contrary to your claim, they knew his whereabouts. My guess is that they did not pursue because the crime he committed did not warrant a sentence longer than 2.5 years in prison and thus they could not extradite him anyway.
18:39 March 5, 2010 by simplesimon
If he was supervising crews it would suggest that he was a training pilot, which would be a bigger worry than being at the controls. Any I do not doubt his ability but merely question his integrity. Good job he never had an accident. Hope they're not too hard on him all the same. The airlines have culpability for failing to make the necessary checks on the guy and also the Joint Aviation Authority for not catching it.
20:35 March 5, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
I dismissed Sweden's false claims that it knew nothing about Thomas Salme because, as the quotation I provided showed, it clearly did.

And who would be interested in any of your guesses, Bender?
22:19 March 5, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez
At least they are more credible that your "facts"...
07:05 March 6, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
Yeah, like your guess that there were problems for Sweden to get Thomas Salme arrested when all it had to do was to tip off authorities in places like Holland about them, and when it did, he was arrested!

Or your guess that it was Plow who drove Holecutter away!

Stop manufacturing guesses, and start looking at the real world.
08:45 March 6, 2010 by square
What a load of dribble in these posts. Fact is he is grounded and about bloody time.
10:01 March 9, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford
My source is an acquaintance of Thomas Salme, and has a friend who knows him quite well.

They believe that Salme could well have been involved in shady deals, like the theft of the Auschwitz sign and flying it to Skavsta when the coast was clear - what Anders Högstrom stopped by informing the police of the operation.

They say that Salme is quite unbalanced, didn't know that he was a former Swedish fighter pilot, and perhaps is even a pyscopath - just the kind of guy you want flying airliners without a license!

More later after I have had a chance to discuss the matter in detail with my friend.
ADD YOUR COMMENT   (YOU MUST LOG IN OR REGISTER TO MAKE A COMMENT)
Today's headlines
GOTHENBURG SCHOOL STABBING
Man held for stabbing Swedish 10-year-old

Man held for stabbing Swedish 10-year-old

A 28-year-old man suspected of stabbing a young girl in the throat at the beginning of February has been apprehended and is being held in another country pending Sweden's extradition demand. READ (2 COMMENTS) »

Swedish man lay 'dead for weeks' in Lund flat

A man in Lund, southern Sweden, lay dead in his house for weeks before his body was discovered, as visiting care staff had left after the man failed to answer his door. READ (3 COMMENTS) »

Sweden expels foreign official: report

The Swedish government said on Tuesday it has expelled a foreign diplomat, but spokespeople were unwilling to confirm international reports that it was a high level official from Rwanda. READ »

THE LOCAL LIST
Sweden's seven 'sexiest' places explored

Sweden's seven 'sexiest' places explored

On Valentine's Day, The Local invites you on a journey of seduction through Sweden, a country which may be worth probing further when it comes to matters of love. READ (3 COMMENTS) »

Valentine's Day in Sweden - readers' sweet tweets and love stories

Valentine's Day in Sweden - readers' sweet tweets and love stories

With Valentine's day upon us again, The Local called for messages from the star-crossed lovers of Sweden, who sent us their loving letters and sweet tweets in a celebration of love in Sweden. READ (2 COMMENTS) »

Swedish tourist halted for having 'terrorist name'

Swedish tourist halted for having 'terrorist name'

A Swedish man set to take off on his "dream holiday" to Mexico was turned away before boarding, as flight officials claimed he shared the name of a wanted terrorist. READ (21 COMMENTS) »

Swedish man suspected of 'kidnapping himself'

A 29-year-old man in northern Sweden has been remanded into custody together with an accomplice after trying to extort money from his parents by pretending he had been kidnapped. READ (6 COMMENTS) »

Sweden at ’real risk’ of terror: government

Sweden at ’real risk’ of terror: government

The Swedish Government has penned a new terror strategy, upgrading Sweden’s risk status since the last plan four years ago, calling for an ‘inter-agency cooperation’ in the fight to counter terror in Sweden. READ (12 COMMENTS) »

More National

Highlights from Follow Sweden

20 things to know before moving to Sweden

As diverse as Sweden is, there are a few societal norms that are distinctly Swedish. Understanding a handful of them will hopefully prepare you culturally before you relocate. When you're invited home to a Swede, you better be on time and take your shoes off, writes expat Lola Akinmade-Åkerström. Read more »

How far can English take you in Sweden?

Sweden is a country where almost everyone can speak English. So why bother to learn Swedish? Edina Varnagy from Hungary managed with English for a whole year but then found that Swedish could open doors – to a job, a social life and greater understanding. Read more »


Blog Update: Julie's Nordic Island

12 February 21:30

The consciousness of one »

"The ice dripped in the winter sun. It was the first day when the light had been intense enough to cause dripping in the sunlight. To hear it was an extraordinary wakeup call. The cycle was happening again as it always does, always will (or so we think). I imagined that on my summer island, the bees..." READ »

Highlights
Photo: Rachel Davies/Flickr
DATING »
The Local helps shed some light on the tantalizing mystery known as the strong, silent Nordic type.
The Local
SOCIETY »
The Local's Oliver Gee finds out why the star of Sweden's version of 'The Office' thinks Sweden is the most PC country in the world
Micheal Brauer/Flickr (File)
SCIENCE & TECH »
'Drunkorexia' on the rise in Sweden: report
Alexander Lervik and Johan Carper
LIFESTYLE »
Seven Swedish designs that will blow your mind
Eva Rinadi Celebrity and Live Music Photography/Flickr
SOCIETY »
Star Wars in Swedish causes fan outrage
www.dotoday.se
LIFESTYLE »
What's On: The Local's guide to upcoming attractions and events in Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö.
OLIKA Publishing
OPINION »
The Swedish language needs a new pronoun free of preconceived notions about gender, a Swedish linguist and representatives from a publishing house argue
Madonna set for July 4th concert in Sweden
SOCIETY »
Madonna set for July 4th concert in Sweden
TV4
GALLERY »
An inside look at 'The Office' in Swedish
Georgios M.W (File)
SOCIETY »
Swedish mother gave 3-year-old cigs and beer
Photo: Fredrik Persson/Scanpix
SOCIETY »
A duvet cover designed to look like cardboard boxes, on sale at a luxury department store in Stockholm, has some arguing that the city's homeless are being exploited for profit.
Ann Catrin Brockman/Flickr (File)
LIFESTYLE »
Five Swedish songs that never made Eurovision
Q&A with Swenglish comedy star Ben Kersley
LIFESTYLE »
Swenglish comedy star Ben Kersley explains how ‘three bespectacled English guys’ plan to make Swedes laugh
Photo: Screenshot YouTube
SOCIETY »
Move over Bugs – a Swedish bunny is rapidly becoming the most popular rabbit in the world!
Photo: Sony Pictures
SPONSORED ARTICLE
How Millennium films tap deep into Swedish angst
Photo: Helena Wahlman
SPONSORED ARTICLE
Braving the cold: Ten reasons to spend winter in Sweden
Photo: ECLA
SPONSORED ARTICLE
A truly international education at the heart of Berlin
Highlights from Follow Sweden
Swedish word of the day

fin

adjective

Fin means anyhting from sweet to proper. When someone says, Du är så fin it's quite a compliment.

Latest news from The Local in Germany

More news from Germany at thelocal.de

Latest news from The Local in Switzerland

More news from Switzerland at thelocal.ch

Latest news from The Local in France

More news from France at thelocal.fr

Latest news from The Local in Norway

More news from Norway at thelocal.no

Blog
Highlights from Follow Sweden
New book about Sweden – get to know the country

Sweden – Up North, Down to Earth is a book about Sweden today. A country of natural beauty and open space, and a society focused on equality, human rights and sustainability. Meet regular and astonishing Swedes, supercars and indie rock bands, vampires and royalties.

Buy your copy of Sweden – Up North, Down to Earth from Sweden Bookshop

Search News


Register

Register now for:
> Free use of noticeboard
> Special discounts
> Weekly news roundup
> Unlimited use of discuss

REGISTER FOR FREE »

Jobs in Sweden, in English

522 jobs available
250 new jobs this week
45 new jobs today

ALL JOBS »

Doctor of Psychology
Therapy in English in Stockholm Trained in California Individuals & Couples (08) 93 81 48 FREE phone consultation
Visit anxiousorblue.se
Get on the Tennis Court with www.babolatshop.se
The new Online Tennis Store with the largest selection of Babolat Products in Sweden
http://www.babolatshop.se
Turning Point Counseling
Turning Point Counselling centre offers the international community of Stockholm a safe space for personal development, counselling and coaching.
http://www.turning-point.se/show.asp
Swedish Down Town
Swedish Down Town PR Consulting and Productions is an innovative business company which provides valuable assistance with Public Relations and Communications in the swedish and the international market.
www.swedishdowntown.com
The Local's new Marketplace
Find products and services that are specifically focused on English speakers living in Sweden!
FULL DETAILS
English Speaking Therapist Stockholm
British-Australian Male Counsellor. Counselling Therapy for Depression, Mental Health, Sex, Relationship & Expat Issues
08-559 22 636 or CLICK HERE
Counseling in English
Individuals & Couples - Stockholm Beth Rogerson PhD - Clinical, Marriage & Family Therapist
Click or call 08-5580 1266 now