Parents fined by tax board for nameless son
Published: 20 Jul 10 13:16 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/27892/20100720/
The Swedish Tax Agency (Skatteverket) has fined a couple 6,000 kronor ($816.25) for failing to give their 16-month-old son a name.
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The law gives parents just three months of reflection before a first name must be registered. According to separate notifications sent to the parents in May, every child must be given one or more given names that must be reported to the agency within three months of birth.
"If a child's guardian fails to register the child's first name within the prescribed period of time, the agency can remind the guardian of this responsibility," the agency wrote.
"Anyone who does not follow the order may have a fine imposed for not submitting a name notification. The name registration must be signed by the child's guardian," it added.
The child was born in March 2009. The parents have not yet responded to the agency about the penalty nor why they have not yet submitted the child's name.
In October, the agency sent a reminder to the guardians regarding the child's name, followed by two orders the following month and another reminder in March to both parents.
By April, an order was sent by registered letter with acknowledgement of receipt sent to both parents. By May, the agency sent separate notices informing both parents that they had been fined.
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Whenever you register something you are passing owneship to that party, your car, your land, even your children. As the new owners the state bodies dictate how those items can be used, e.g. car tax and licence, property tax, child welfare laws.
It's all part of commercial construct, i.e. everything you see and hear is subject to commercial law and contracts which is the law of the sea (admiralty), not the law of the land.
The greatest trick is to hide this from the public, and even when exposed I bet not 1 in 1000 of you will take this seriously, and that simple fact ladies and gentleman is the beauty of the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
Yep, you're right. I'm not taking it seriously.
I guess your reply was taken from part of the million monkeys typing, for a million years.
But seriously, printing your own diploma on the internet doesn't mean you can state your assumptions as fact. I'm glad you are not doing any commercial legal work for me.
If you not own a dictionary look it up or try an online dictionary.
reg·is·ter (rj-str)
n.
a. A formal or official recording of items, names, or actions.
b. A book for such entries.
Register in this case is also a verb [ trans. ]
The act of registering.
Surely the kid needs a name, a personal number, etc.
In most countries you have to register a name that is then used in the child's healthcare and education records etc - he won't have a personal number which means no healthcare, childcare and passport
I think the Swedish authorities have been very patient with this family - in Britain you get 42 days - in Sweden 90 days - and so far it has been 1 year and 4 months
The process is so simple as well in Sweden
- the hospital automatically notify the authorities
- they send you a form
- you write in the chosen name
- you send it back
How hard can it be?
Put the bong down.
That made me laugh out loud.
In answer to Bob, you are looking at the definition of register as defined by a dictionary, not by legalese, which is the language of the law and courts.
The creation of a name followed by a personal number is the process of forming a legal entity separate to the human flesh and blood, that legal entity can then have commercial laws applied upon it, such as fines for not naming your baby within 3 months.
Confirmed by a Swedish lawyer only a few weeks ago when in a cosy little bar, but it's not just Sweden, it's almost every country in the world.
why 4000 kr fine for father and 2000 kr for mother? is this not discrimination? ha ha ha ha.
so did they give the child a family name? maybe thats where the problem is and they are fighting over whose family name the child should have its not allowed for the child to have both their parents family names! :-)
crazy world!
If you have not registered it in a couple of days in Northern Ireland, you start to get phone calls from birth, deaths and marriages. A few days after that social services. A couple of days after that you get a visit from a social worker asking about adoption.
The hint tends to be very strong.
Seriously though, what on earth were these idiot parents thinking of??
Bejeebus!
I just took the 42 days from the British governments YouGov site rather than looking up what rule exist for each of the 4 devloved governemtns
Regardless of whether it is a few days or 6 weeks in specific areas of Britain - the 12 weeks that you have in Sweden is still generous given that the process is done for you and you don't even have to visit the Folkbokförings registrator here (registrar of biths, marriages and deaths)
@sendia
Re- family names - my kids are born in Sweden and have been registered with both Mr Puffin and my names - so I doubt that this would be the reason
@Great Scott
There will be agencies checking on the baby - probably not the Registrar of the Register of Births, Marriages and Deaths at the Tax Office as their job is administrative - however the BVC nurse comes on a home visit within a few days of leaving hospital and gives you the schedule of baby check-ups. If the baby wasn't attending checks then social services would become involved.
Unfortunately that is still happening. The Irish still can not get it into there heads to arrest all of them and deport them back to the capital paedophile city, known as Vatican City.
how about naming your child the day it is born? It is not like having a baby comes as surprise.
"probably"
At least, how do they call the baby?
Sometimes, i find Sweden a little weird than I always think of.
Look in any Legal dictionary. You are bonkers.
Don't believe everything people tell you in bars.
This guy is obviously no lawyer - but if you are that gullible...if he promises he will be gentle, just tread carefully. You will learn the hard way...
#25Flappytango
Hear, Hear, well put.
After all "The child was born in March 2009".
Surely they have named it by now. (Shirley?)
Roy.
Take The Netherlands... You have to name your child and register the name and date of birth within 3 business days after birth at city hall. It's usually done by the fathers for obvious reasons. If the father is unknown, and the mother cannot do it herself, then another family member, the doctor, "barnmorska" or a nurse need to do it, but only if they were present during the birth of the child. If for some reason that is also impossible then the mayor or a civil servant appointed by him/her will do it.