Published: 16 Jul 11 12:19 CET | Print version
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A 12-year-old girl was raped in central Stockholm on Friday evening.
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"The girl was badly shocked, reported the newspaper, but was able to tell police that an unknown man had attacked her and then molested her.
"A man, of no acquaintance to the girl, raped her in a stairwell," said Anders Molin, station officer of the Norrmalm police, to news agency TT."
She declares to the police that she was molested and then the police declares that she was raped.
Does a 12-year old girl not know the difference between molesting and raping?
Please, be more accurate in your reporting, Clara Guiborg.
Has the poor girl been able to give a description or her assailant? Will the Swedish news media put out a drawing/sketch and description of the man? I hope so.
Actually, castration is too good for the drekk.
Such people must be isolated from society and serious efforts expended to understand how they came to be. Rationality is the only hope of humanity.
Of course all efforts must be taken to apprehend the criminal. By the way, as I understand it (given the Assange debacle) the definition of rape within Swedish law is quite broad, so the police were most probably accurate in their statement to the press.
Well does it really matter? I'm sure if you had a daughter the difference is subtle and you'd agree with the other posts here, unless off course, you are a pervert yourself.
It's quite common for Swedish girls to get laid with guys and then to call police about rape. (see: Julian Assange). However I don't mean this case.
@jackx123 - this is a legal issue, only one side have made a claim, that person is not rapist unless it's proved legally. the easiest way is to abuse someone via internet, sitting at home.
Any Swede who wants to understand the horrible mess the USA and UK is in, read comments posted on The Local, and then think long and hard before you go tripping along in the footsteps of the USA (first you trash it, then follow.)
Some of the people posting here are downright scary.
"Does a 12-year old girl not know the difference between molesting and raping?"
The Swedish legal system doesn't recognise the difference between sexual molestation and rape and simply describes most sexual offences (no matter how minor) as rape. In this way, Swedish feminists can reassure themselves that all men are rapists, and Sweden has the highest number of "rapes" in the EU.
If the entire Swedish legal system fails to define rape properly, why should a 12 year old Swedish girl do any better?
What do you mean, 'Well does it really matter?'? No one writing here would belittle what a horrendous crime has been committed. However articles about such crimes should be clear about the difference between molestation and rape. To believe that there is little difference between the two is an affront to people who experience the worst sexual crime. Yes I would agree that given the age of the girl then yes I would agree that it does not matter that if she was rape or molested, it is still a serious sex crime.
However I don't think that you can assume that Belmar could be a pervert for just asking the question. It is getting to a situation in Sweden where 'awkward' sexual experiences can be categorised as rape in law. Many people recognise that Sweden are being ridiculous Sweden and when they see examples of this stupidity they just want to point out the stupidity. I can't help it myself as you can see.
"I wonder if you would feel the same if it were your 12 year old daughter."
Having victims or victim's families be the ones who determine how to punish criminal behaviour is not justice... it is revenge. As a society that strives to be civilized, we have a justice system, not a vigilante/vengeance system.
I invite you to listen to brilliant pat condell on youtube (search for pat condell sweden). He pretends exactly the contrary.
Who do you think is right?