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Swedish men soon in the majority

Published: 25 Sep 11 12:53 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
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Centuries of female dominance in population statistics will be broken within the next four years. In 2015 the surplus of women in Sweden will be turned to a male surplus.

Although more boys than girls are born, a combination of wars, hard work and unhealthy lifestyles have caused men to die younger.

As men and women's living conditions grow more similar, the difference in life expectancy has shrunk. This combined with a greater number of male immigrants is boosting male numbers in Sweden, reports regional newspaper Sydsvenskan.

According to forecasts from statistics institute SCB, the country will be going from a female surplus of 2,225 people on December 31, 2014, to a male surplus of 4,700 on December 31, 2015.

In the year 2020, Sweden's population is expected to consist of 38,200 more men than women, according to Sydsvenskan.

The male dominance is increasing for several reasons. More boys than girls are born today - 106 boys for every 100 girls.

Also, men's life expectancy is increasing more than women's. Thirty years ago, women lived 6.4 years longer than men. Today that figure is 4.7, and in another thirty years it's expected to have shrunk to just 2 years.

The coming surplus can also be attributed to the refugees from former Yugoslavia, Africa and the Middle East, the majority of whom are male.

In several Swedish municipalities, particularly in rural areas, a male surplus already exists. However, in larger cities such as Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö women continue to be in the majority.

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14:30 September 25, 2011 by Migga
Why not let less male refugees in and more female refugees in?
14:49 September 25, 2011 by jostein
Swedish? Anyway, in swedish public debate it is still controversial to use the word "massinvandring" (mass immigration). Thats how warped the journalists have made public discourse in sweden.
16:56 September 25, 2011 by rouzi
Bad for female. Now what they are gonna do !? Bad girls bad girls what a' gonna do! what a' gonna be?
17:32 September 25, 2011 by ?????
@rouzi

bad for females to have more men around?
18:21 September 25, 2011 by rouzi
@?????

No no, I mainly meant feminist. Bad for feminists.

The comment was actually a total strategic mistake.

You know. the time that the number of men was less than women, girls did not stay with men and were not loyal . Now they never gonna stay because there are always some reserves. Then, let me send my condolences to all Swedish boys .No more wife in Sweden guys; search somewhere else.

Good boys! good boys! what a' gonna do ! what a' gonna be now
18:33 September 25, 2011 by Tysknaden
Thats bad news. I am under the impression, the average Swedish woman is more intelligent and tough, than the average Swedish man. Swedish women are interested in culture and love animals. And they are amongst the worlds most beautiful women! But many of them drink and smoke a lot. That's a pity!
18:59 September 25, 2011 by rouzi
@Tysknaden

A kind of optical delusion of your consciousness :D

NO just tell me : which one consider smartness my dear. Loving your dog more than your family/ boy friend or insisting on continuing stupid habits which are named culture. what kind of smart people they are who are harming themselves with drinking and smoking a lot.?

what somebody gonna do with beauty.? what we need is loyalty and commitment. These are going to make life beautiful.
19:59 September 25, 2011 by Svensksmith
@rouzi

Make your wife feel beautiful and your life will be beautiful.
20:24 September 25, 2011 by Token-not-found
@rouzi

Loyalty , commitment?

Hahaha no such anymore in the western culture.

In the past it was just because women did not have means of subsistence.

Marry and be loyal or starve/have a horrible life poverty ridden life.

Today they don't need marriage to survive , they can screw around to their hearts content.

Loyalty and commitment is useless if it is enforced and does not come naturally. A thing i suspect never was (natural).

It's a whore culture we live in , in toxic whore times.

I'm an atheist , by the way, but not a moral relativist.

Integrity is integrity, being a whore is being a whore.
21:28 September 25, 2011 by notpresto
You want loyalty and commitment get a dog, you want a partner and friend try loving and respecting the person your with, i am a big fan of treating someone how u would like to be treated. As for Swedish women some call me a love refugee I prefer reverse viking.
23:28 September 25, 2011 by Tysknaden
@rouzi: Without beauty, life is useless. There are different kinds of beauty. The body, the mind, the heart, - they all can have their form of beauty. But I meant the body, when writing, Swedish women are amongst the world's most beautiful. You are right.

Smoking and drinking, being unfaithful? All this I did, too. So I feel fully entitled to forgive. And I really loved my cats much more than my exwife. (Before she became ex-.)

By culture, I did mean books, musik, movies of the more complicated and sophisticated kind.

So I guess, a Swedish woman is more than good enough for my. We can love our pets in a nice communion more intense, than we love each other :-)

And I am not very attractive, aged, and I do not have lots of money. I did have a lot of different women in my life; I loved them all in different ways. Now I have to find the last one.
02:38 September 26, 2011 by philster61
"It's a whore culture we live in , in toxic whore times."

Actually the definition of a whore is "prostitute"... Since prostitution is illegal in Sweden, its hardly likely to be cultural.You are probably an immigrant from an Arab state who can't handle women that stand on their own two feet and have an opinion and can dress and do whatever they wish without having to answer to insecure men who are rival Christianity in hypocrisy......

The fact that you were too keen to state your "atheism" reveals that you are religious, And I would bet you are the "Arab" religion. Your vitriolic primitive post reveals you are nothing but an Arab foreigner with a chip on his shoulder. Most likely because no women will give you the time of day.....And can you blame them
09:58 September 26, 2011 by Tysknaden
@Marylinvossavant: I met aggressive, unedible, hostile women. In all of those cases, it was caused by exhusbands, exboyfriends, exlovers, who did behave like animals. These womens attitude wasn't caused by feminismn, it was caused by having been treated like property; by having been cheated, raped, stalked, ignored, beaten, threatened, enslaved. By Christian, "Atheist" and Muslim males.
10:02 September 26, 2011 by Token-not-found
@philster61

Actually, i'm as white as you can get.

Really now, if you don't like islam, your stance is veiled in contradiction.

Through the whore culture and moral relativism and decay our birthrates drop significantly , which leaves us ripe for taking by other cultures that have much, much higher birth rates and much more aggressive cultures.

Not liberal or conservative i have right wing views on some matters and left wing in others. The right and the left are both very flawed.

The right because of authoritarianism and religious connotations and the left for their destructive, toxic fairy tale nightmare they are trying to force on us and their oppression.

Really now, nowadays feminists try to cover whoredom up with pretty words like "empowerment" and "sexual liberation".

If you want to be a whore, at least be a honest one and i won't have a problem with it, that's my mindset.

But these girls want to be princesses and whores at the same time AND be respected for it.
11:38 September 26, 2011 by muscle
@Token-not-found: I think you are a bit mistaken here. Many swedish ladies that I have talked to, want to get married... unfortunately, the men don't wont. As far as I see it, its' perhaps because if men leave the woman after marrying her, they need to pay a huge price as the woman has lot of rights. Thus, they claim "we are not ready yet.. its too early" bs!!!

the "whore culture" is not because of the women, but because of the men.
12:27 September 26, 2011 by Tysknaden
@Marilynvossavant: I knew it! I am kaputt :-) Maybe the women you met have been too much Marion Wayne :-). But to tell the truth: I defendet Feminismn, because there sits a woman beside me, pointing a gun to the old shabby urn - my head.

I could tell you stories... many women do become raped by their own fathers or brothers!

And look at the situation in countries with Muslim religion in power. Women held like cattle. Circumcision. Have a look at the products of porno industry. Always brutaltity and cruelty against women. In Easten Europe they catch women with faked job offerings and force them into prostitution like slaves.

If you love someone, this person is precious to you, at least, if you are sane. If you want to have a relationship, the other person is fully entitled to have the same rights, you want to have.

Yes. There are women, who are going for having the rights of an emancipated woman and the rights of an unemancipated woman at the same time. But there are males, who claim the rights of a grown up man and a boy at the same time, too.
12:34 September 26, 2011 by Token-not-found
@muscle

Yes, that's one of the reasons, but i would argue it's the result of female privilege and the crass discrimination against men at official levels.

The rate of divorce in the USA is higher than 50%.

Who would take that gamble? When she gets bored of you or finds someone else and divorces you, she ends up with half the stuff and the kids and other things.

That's crude discrimination against men at an institutional level, powered by feminism.

They don't want equality, feminism has nothing to do with equality.

The straight white male is the "black man" of today.
13:15 September 26, 2011 by andyron2
Lot of interesting comments with information.Thanks to the consensus prediction.
13:50 September 26, 2011 by Tysknaden
@andyron2: I hope, I do misunderstand you.
14:41 September 26, 2011 by Learner2011
It is extremely rare to read thoughtful and intelligent comments on this website. However, I must admit that I really enjoyed reading Token-not-found's comments, simply because they are very correct in my opinion.

Honestly, I think Women have so-called "rights" more than what they really deserve, especially in Nordic countries. Anyhow, Hypocrisy becomes as essential and vial part of counties' policies cultures in order to be praised.

I believe that women must be treated nicely with respect and love. Also, I believe that women by nature are inferior to men. So, Women should never ever be in control.

I wish to see any feminist who is not a freak or sick....(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10526907)
15:20 September 26, 2011 by Tysknaden
@Learner2011: It was your father, who gave birth to you and took care of you, when you have been a toddler?
15:47 September 26, 2011 by Learner2011
@Tysknaden

I am 112% certain that it is pointless to argue with a person like you because of your ethics that you have showed on this website.

Anyhow, I find it pretty amusing how you mix up things, maybe your level of intellect is unable to understand the idea of the argument. Why on earth you talk about giving birth and taking care of babies?

Your question to me is totally irrelevant and out of the context. Besides, I stated clearly that women must be treated nicely with respect and love.

The discussion was about what so-called "rights" for women. no one cares about who gives birth and for your information soon men will be capable of giving birth (Thomas Beatie)...So don't butt in like a moron and say that because women do give birth then we must worship them.

Finally all your comments without exception really turn my stomach because of the pure ignorance and hate which are presenting. Anyhow, Correct your info and do not claim things out of your mind. In your comment #18 "Circumcision" is NOT a practice in Islam. It is related to some African cultures. Yes there might be some Muslims who do it, but they do it because it is part of their traditions and NOT because of Islam.
16:45 September 26, 2011 by Tysknaden
@Learner2011: I assure you: I do not hate Muslims. And I do not hate Islam. I just hate the idea of importing murderous Sharia law. I have no ideas of race discrimination. I am Aspie. My thinking is mostly cold and abstract. And you should consider the special situation in this forums, the behavior of some commentators and the thematics of the articles discussed.

Better do not tell about the "men giving birth thingie". Your religion would never allow this to happen inside Muslim realms. Your idea is insulting your God. There are countries, where they would punish you for publishing this idea.

You said, women are inferior. I think, women are superior, because they can give birth to life - like God. And I did not connect your religion to your stated opiion in your comment, because I am always trying to be honest and fair. In this case, it means: Many nonmuslim males think the same way, but do not speak it out openly.

Circumcision is practice in African Islam. Africans are the biggest Muslim group. So it is incorrect to speak about "some Muslims who do it", most likely. (In fact, the number is 2 Million mutilated girls a year.) But this cruel practice is inherited by old African roots; - it was not created by Islam. Correct. What a pity, the new children have not been able, to resist adopting or continuing it! And tell me: Why does the Umma nothing to stop or condemn this practice?
17:04 September 26, 2011 by canam
who cares about this article -most Swedish women act like men and the men act like women so it all evens out. ;)
04:33 September 27, 2011 by MichiganLady
I don't understand how you can have a "whore" without having several horrible men. Seriously, the whole whore/princess concept is pretty caveman and simplistic. Sheesh, men! they're either logical automatons or bitter and envious of women! :D
10:26 September 27, 2011 by sjuttiosjusköterskorpåsjukhuset
Thank you Marilyn for telling it like it is. Feminism is evil, but so too is male chauvinism. Why didn't God just make this planet so boring that we would be all one sex, ethnicity and race, and speak just one language? Oh, that's right, they don't believe in God nowadays so that wouldn't be a "politically correct" statement to make either.
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