Swedish uni sacks man over pro-Breivik blog

Western universities have become nothing more than liberal, PC indoctrination camps.

Free though, free speech and the free exchange of ideas will get you terminated.

Think about it , you don't have to like or agree with this person, but next time you say something the establishment doesn't like - it will happen to you next!

Blogging during working hours is just a bull excuse to fire him for expressing his views.

If management really wants to fire you - they will find a reason- a mean stare to someone, not flushing the toilet etc.

Like i said, you don't have to agree with the guy that got fired or sympathize with him, but do you really want to live in a world where expressing your views can get you fired or put in jail?

I actually want to live in a world where I can fire my employee for having views that are extremely against my company's set of values. And any serious company asks their employees to sign a contract that includes a code of conduct.

And for sure I want to live in a world where a person that promotes hate gets pushed aside.

There, you got you answer.

Freedom of expression doesn't include supporting murderers and murder!

@Iraniboy

George W Bush? Tony Blair? The former a former president of a country that has "freedom of speech" enshrined in its constitution, the latter a former prime minister who said "freedom of speech" was important (he's recanted on that recently) but I'm sure that the governments of certain states, say for example Iran, might consider either or both of them as murderers. Blair almost certainly was lying with his suggestion of stock-pied WMDs in Iraq. Either way both f them used fredom of expression to support their own murderous actions.

A nation that limits free speech even that by murderers promulgating murderous acts has become decadent and will like previous regimes before it, e.g. Persia, ancient Rome, will fail. There's speech in the film "The American President" worth noting here.

'"You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free".'

If only all politicians would say that not just fictional ones, then such idiocy as dismissing trainees would be seen for what it is ... idiocy. It would have to be discussed in the open and the majority opinion really take over.

And with free speech comes responsibility.. Best thing to do was to sack him....Besides, the concept of free speech in Sweden is confusing at best.....

Everyone agrees with the concept of Freedom of Speech, but the practical application of the right of free speech opens complex, semantic legal issues.

For example,

If I were to shout, "All Swedes must die," that would be protected speech.

However, if I were to shout, " Let's kill Sven Svenson, the Swede," that would be a threat against an individual and it would not be protected speech.

As for the trainee in question, it all comes down to what he saying on his blog and how he was saying it. If he were speaking broadly, the his rantings should be protected. If, on the other hand, he was making specific, directed threats, his speech should not be protected.

Of course, if I were him, I would hire a good lawyer to investigate the use school computers for personal use. I am certain that he is not the only teacher to use a school computer for personal use during work hours.

I also agree that it is one thing to support freedom of the press, free speech, and even civil disobedience. It is another to incite to riot or support criminal activity, What should our reaction be, however to those that support overthrowing a government... Who should decide what is tyranny and what is insurection?

I will never support what happened in Norway, and I would find it difficult to work with a hardcore right winger... but I wouldn't want to deny him the right to his views in so much as he did not shove his views upon me or abuse his right to opinion during working hours.

Freedom of speech is one thing but if you use that freedom to express yourself in a way that goes directly against the values of the organisation you work for then you are most likely going to be reprimanded for it. Especially if you have a contract of employment that specifically refers to a code of conduct.

European people don't have "freedom of speech" right because they are all guilty of Hitler crimes. Yes.

@fedotovskiy

That doesn't even make any sense.

O really?

So, if you know the reason why europeans don't have fredom of sppech right - tell us about it.

Again... freedom of speech guarantees that you will not be imprisoned nor executed by the state for voicing your opinions. It does not guarantee that you get to keep your job, or your wife, or your friends, or the respect of others for voicing your opinions.

If a University staff member says it is good for a mother to seduce her son he gets away with it. But if he/she says something right wing they get fired. It's all bullcrap. I don't agree with what this twerp said but I've heard a lot weirder sh_t being said on campuses over the years.

This looks like a photo of Stadsbiblioteket in Härnösand, not mittuniversitetet... Please correct.

@Tanskalainen

That's the thing, he was not even saying on campus, he was saying it on a blog , on the internet.

When you take a job, you become part of the public face of the institution. Like it or not!

If you start to publicly praise mass murderers, sensible people start to question the wisdom and values of your employer for keeping a wacko on the payroll. If you take the next step, and actually commit mass murder yourself, your employer's brand value takes a further and much more serious knock.

No one in their right mind will ever give this guy a job again. Maybe some of his supporters here can give him something to do.

C'on!!! I was told not to go to work with a Motorhead t-shirt coz it had some "nice" words on the back. I was told not to go to work with jeans in another job I had. I was even told not to make noises when I had a bronquitis ( didn't know yet ). etc etc etc........... and there are still some people wandering why they sacked this guy for bloging racist crap in working hours????? gimme a brake!!!

good thing they fired him...

but an iman saying death to converters is free speech -_-x.

Some quotes from so othejudgers may

Anders Behring Breivik (ABB)

"I know that there are hundreds, even thousands of incidents per year (I have personally witnessed around 50 incidents) where ethnic Norwegian youths ranging 14-18 are harassed, beaten, raped and robbed and it's getting worse every year."

"Oslo used to be a peaceful city. Thanks to the Norwegian cultural Marxist/multicultural regime they have transformed my beloved city into a broken city, a bunkered society, a multicultural s**t hole where no one is safe anymore, to use blunt language."

"It is meaningless to participate in the Democratic process when you are not allowed to raise important issues without being subjected to political and social persecution through stigmatization and ridicule. It is time to acknowledge that we the cultural conservatives of Western Europe, are deceiving ourselves to believe that it is remotely possible to change the system democratically."

"There is no freedom of speech in Europe. If you don't cheer and embrace your own annihilation you are a racist bigot, an enemy of the establishment and must be suppressed, ridiculed, undermined and persecuted."

"In order to successfully penetrate the cultural Marxist/multicultural media censorship we are forced to employ significantly more brutal and breath taking operations which will result in causalities. In order for the attack to gain an influential effect, assassinations and the use of weapons of mass destruction must be embraced."

"The primary goal of the shock attacks is not the immediate physical manifestation of the attack (destroying a few buildings, Killing a few hundred traitors) but rather the indirect effects. Shock attacks will have the potency to penetrate the strict censorship regime of the cultural Marxists/multicultural."

"unfortunately, spectacular operations like these are the only way to be heard. Everything else we have tried has failed and yielded nothing. The Muslims showed us that deadly shock attacks are the only tool we have at the moment which will guarantee that our voice is heard."

@Harry

Good point.