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US ISPs block hacker probes: Swedish police

Published: 7 Feb 12 10:18 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/38966/20120207/

The Swedish National Police Board (Rikspolisstyrelsen) has called for new international laws to catch hackers on the internet, after US internet service providers refused to divulge information on the weekend's attack on government websites.

“The problem is that the internet is an international phenomenon and legislation is national. It’s not limited to Sweden though, it is Europe. And because most big internet providers are US based, we all have the same troubles dealing with them,” Anders Ahlqvist, IT-crimes specialist of the national police, told The Local.

As The Local reported on Saturday, Swedish group Cyberforce, part of the Swedish branch of "hacktivist" collective Anonymous, quickly claimed responsibility for a cyber attack on the websites of the Swedish government on Saturday as part of protests against anti-piracy regulations.

“According to intelligence material, the hackers’ goal was to reach the authorities through such mediums as Twitter conversations, (FRA and the national police) but none of the authorities knew of the attacks,” Ahlqvist told Sveriges Radio (SR).

The hackers succeeded in shutting down the government through a so called ‘overload attack’ where someone sends so much information that the system collapses. Now a police investigation is underway, however the work will not be quick.

“If we want information, we have to provide a subpoena from the US court, and a formal request through Sweden’s department of justice. It is extremely time-consuming, and very many of the cases are not possible to investigate," Ahlqvist said.

"Conversely, the US faces the same problems when dealing with European courts.”

This is not the first time that the government and authorities have been attacked online, other examples in Sweden including the Pirate Bay court case, and the Julian assange rape case.

The fact that the government site went down says something about the level of safety, according to Ahlqvist.

“It unfortunately showed that the overload attacks actually work, time after time. The routines need to be looked into so that they work better,” he told SR.

Ahlqvist claims the attacks do nothing to tarnish Swedish reputation, rather, that it is a worldwide legislative problem that needs to be addressed immediately.

“We need more international agreements for a smoother system otherwise the bad guys will just keep on winning," Ahlqvist told The Local.

Oliver Gee (news@thelocal.se)

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16:17 February 7, 2012 by byke
Dear Mt Oliver Gee (AKA The Local Bullshitter)

What a load of old sh*t you have written.

US ISP's are not blocking anything.

They simply require a court document before handing over any sort of private information. Otherwise what you are proposing in your article is not much different to wiretapping. Or illegally monitoring people outside Sweden's borders.

So in regards to your headline "US ISPs block hacker probes" I think its quite clear that your title is deliberately misleading and borders dangerously on sensationalism and by doing so could find yourself accountable under Swedish law by making unfound claims against other nations which would apear to be untrue.
18:41 February 7, 2012 by Opinionfool
If it happened, when it has happened, in the opposite direction the US authorities has demanded foreign ISP divulge users identities. One recent case being the personal details of Icelandic MP Birgitta Jonsdottir whose Facebook details were accessed by the FBI in connection with Wikileaks' leaking of the US Embassy cables.

Shame on the US for not showing reciprocity. Shame on the Swedes for needing their government web sites to be hacked in order to give them a wake-up call.
23:21 February 7, 2012 by bethrichardson
Opinionfool - While there may have been a couple of cases where the US was able to get the information they needed, there ahve been millions - literally - of attacks on government sites and personal sites where the US was unable to get the information they needed from the government in question. Should we act the same way and block Sweden from getting the info they need? No, I don't think so. But to say we get what we demand is a joke.

And Byke, chill! We all know that the US courts take forever to get the info needed, and to chase down hackers you have to be able to move fast or they will simply move their domain to another ISP. We DO need to have better ways of working together to crack down on these criminals. If an American police officer can arrest someone based on reasonable cause, this same idea of "reasonable cause" should be enough to give the basic info so that they can launch a comprehensive investigation.
12:08 February 8, 2012 by byke
@bethrichardson

Laws are different all over the world, but breaching human rights and privacy without proof of crime is a farce.

The internet was never designed to be used for political policing.

In regards to DDOS, how is this any different to many people rallying together to protest ? (In a virtual mannerism?) yes it can cause an overload but it does nothing to destroy or remove.

But does this justify demanding information on citizens where no burden of proof has been submitted to allow governments to obtain information regarding citizens who may not even be citizens or fall under the laws of a nation who accuse?
14:29 February 8, 2012 by Roy E
@byke - The internet was never designed to be used for political policing.

That's certainly true, but that's exactly it will end up being used for. Control. freaks aren't going to let little things like principles and rights get in their way.

Bravo to the US ISP's.
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