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Swedish lesbians see red over sperm fee

Published: 28 Aug 12 14:31 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/42870/20120828/

A lesbian couple in County Östergötland has reported the county council to the Swedish Equality Ombudsman (Diskrimineringsombudsmannen, DO), for making them pay 3,000 kronor ($457) for two inseminations.

“When looking back we have felt pretty sad over the fact that it looks like this and that we are not seen as important as other couples,” the pair wrote in their report, according to local paper Norrköpings Tidningar.

The couple felt both badly treated and insignificant compared to heterosexual couples, for whom the treatment is free of charge, and have now reported the county council to the watchdog.

The women felt the doctor treating them was both ignorant and tactless, calling one of them the “father-to-be”. They also bristled at being forced to pay 3,000 kronor for two inseminations, which is free for gay women in the neighbouring county.

However, Maria Morell of the county council, is not surprised that they have been reported.

“We’ve been reported before. We’re often vilified for having high fees,” she said to the paper.

Despite the recurring criticism, she doesn’t think that there is enough reason to re-think the county’s policy on insemination for gay women.

“We have identified what we think should be paid for by taxpayers’ money. We think that there should be a medical reason for infertility for the council to pay for treatment and homosexuality is not counted as a disease,” said Morell to the paper.

"It stands to reason that it would be strange if we paid for the insemination of a fertile lesbian woman, it would be like saying she is sick."

She added that if a medical examination showed that a lesbian woman had infertility difficulties, the situation would be different.

“Then she would be treated as any other woman experiencing fertility problems,” said Morell to the paper.

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15:10 August 28, 2012 by Programmeny
I agree with Maria Morelli 100%.
15:40 August 28, 2012 by DAVID T
I can give a donation
15:41 August 28, 2012 by Swedishmyth
Yup, the payment is intended for those who can't otherwise have children.
17:13 August 28, 2012 by Youdee
Back in the late 1970s, early 1980s, women used turkey basters with great success, no cost, and no need to report the donor.
19:49 August 28, 2012 by byke
Sex without a condom without consent is illegal in Sweden?

How can a donor get consent when he is not their?

Is this not male rape?

Let's extradite the authorities for questioning.
19:51 August 28, 2012 by Abe L
These women could have been a bit more creative. It really can't be that hard to get free sperm as a woman if the financials where an issue.
22:40 August 28, 2012 by HenryPollard
Wanting free sperm but not the associated penis seems to serve as a perfect metaphor for modern Swedish society.
23:20 August 28, 2012 by GLO
My Black Lab will donate....
00:03 August 29, 2012 by Dr. Dillner
Were I to donate, I would stipulate that it NOT be supplied to lesbians.
00:14 August 29, 2012 by prince T
"It stands to reason that it would be strange if we paid for the insemination of a fertile lesbian woman, it would be like saying she is sick." She added that if a medical examination showed that a lesbian woman had infertility difficulties, the situation would be different.

With the above comment, i dont see what is wrong with the decsions of the council. Sometimes I wonder whether we should create a seperate constitution for the community. The fairness aspect of the current constitution should be removed to suit the gay community.
01:05 August 29, 2012 by William Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha
I disagree with their reasoning. They would also offer this to heterosexual couples if the fertility problems were with the man, ie he could not inseminate his partner himself. Therefore they are treating the lesbian couple differently.
05:18 August 29, 2012 by Tiny Red Ant
Infertile? Two fertile women wants their fertile partner to be considered infertile so that they can be inseminated for free. Maybe, the wording of regulation or law needs to be changed.
17:32 August 29, 2012 by umeåstar
As a lesbian living in Sweden I am fine with paying and my wife and I actually thought it would cost more. 3000krs for 2 attempts is a great deal! I can see how some people think its not fair straight couples get it free but I think of it this way.. I am able to have kids.. I could but WONT sleep with a man...so I will buy the swimmers ... If a straight couple is there.. someones junk isnt working..so its his right to have help.

However I do feel that this should be somewhat treated like trips to the dentist. First 2 tries 3000krs but then it goes down by half for the next 2 tries.. and if you still not prego theres something medically not cool so its free :D
12:17 August 30, 2012 by flintis
@ umeåstar, sleeping with a man will not necessarily get you pregnant, having intercourse on the other hand might help.

Ethically I am against artificial insemination, there are far too many parentless children in the world today, in fact far too many people. I have also experienced first hand what happens in divorced families,1 parent families & homosexual families, children need their mother & father.
19:27 August 30, 2012 by DoMore
Bidragssamhälle?
13:07 August 31, 2012 by Bejaco
I would see that this is accomplished for free. If they look like DOGS, Call Bill Clinton.
16:42 September 3, 2012 by Nvd
Wow, sperm for free!
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