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Film industry demands fines from Pirate Bay pair

Peter Vinthagen Simpson · 26 Apr 2010, 14:16

Published: 26 Apr 2010 14:16 GMT+02:00

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Columbia Pictures, Disney and Twentieth Century Fox are among the firms seeking 500,000 kronor each from Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg who they claim remain key figures behind the site.

Neij and Svartholm Warg, together with Peter Sunde and Carl Lundström, were found guilty of being an accessory to copyright violations and issued with a collective fine of 30 million kronor ($4.17 million) as well as a year in prison.

The Pirate Bay four have appealed the Stockholm District Court decision with the case likely to go all the way to the Supreme Court because of its precedential nature.

The Pirate Bay has in the meantime continued operating and, in a ruling from Stockholm District Court in October, Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg were ordered to pay 500,000 kronor fines if they did not close the site.

The film companies have now joined a previous call from music industry giants Universal, EMI, Sony and Warner Music to demand payment of the fines as they are not satisfied with steps taken by The Pirate Bay to shut down their BitTorrent tracker function.

In his appeal of the court's ruling, Svartholm Warg claimed that the fines are redundant if the tracker is down. Peter Sunde has also commented that the change leaves only the file sharers themselves responsible for their actions.

But Monique Wadsted, the lawyer representing the film companies in their application to the court argues that the changes are only cosmetic and that The Pirate Bay website still provides comprehensive links to uploaded torrents.

"This change has no impact on the file sharing service function," she argues in the film companies' petition.

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A new survey carried out by the film companies indicates that only seven of the 109 torrent files named in the case had been taken off The Pirate Bay, all of which remained available via other sites.

The companies furthermore argue that Neij and Svartholm Warg's claims to have no further role in the operation of The Pirate Bay are contradicted by several public statements made by the pair, including comments made in conjunction with the aborted sale to Global Gaming Factory.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson (news@thelocal.se)

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21:05 April 26, 2010 by reason
"all of which remained available via other sites"

So now it's not only illegal to provide a link to copyrighted material hosted elsewhere, it's also illegal to provide a link to a site which provides a link and you remain forever responsible for material you once linked to? That's stretching it a bit thin.
22:49 April 26, 2010 by rugla
This bloody cry babies and their lawyers only interested on selling man hours are only alienating the consumers, enough is enough! they had their best profit years ever for the last five and they want more! I say f…………………m!

They now want legislation passed to prosecute hardware manufacturers and software companies, as a vehicle for crime.

What is next car companies for transporting criminals, are they liable too? The post office, what is the difference, keep it up bone heads, the more you do the less people want to buy the Hollywood crap you produce!

We honestly waste so much time and tax payer crowns to save money for whom, how much is that costing us? Monique Wadsted f………………o too!
02:48 April 27, 2010 by repat_xpat
The person up front in the photo, is that a boy or a girl. I thought it was a girl until I saw the beard. Swedish androgyny is killing me. Just like the fricking Jay Leno princess.
08:12 April 27, 2010 by Liquidmonkey
whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'???

the MPAA need to prove these guys are still operating TPB.

its not what you know, its what you can prove.

its like the first or second lesson in lawyer school .
08:34 April 27, 2010 by xenyasai
@reason: To play the Devil's advocate here, if I tell you where to get drugs or some other kind of contrband I can be charged too. As it is still illegal in most countries to d/l and provide unauthorised access to copyrighted material you will see cases like this.

They will stop if the media industry starts competing with pirates and the laws change.

@rugla: Just stop with the strawman arguments.
09:32 April 27, 2010 by RoyceD
4 people being sued for allowing thousands of people access to digital entertainment... surely this is the worst crime in history. Oh wait, no its not, it is actually one of the most significant steps we have taken as a species and we don't even realise it. Lemmings.
14:31 April 27, 2010 by sweco1
So why are they only going after two of the Pirate bay men.

Why because the other TWO ARE SPIES working for the other side. It was a total set-up along with that young ISREALI men that testified in the trial. It was a total set-up along with Judge also.Now they want to snow the other two under with these lawsuits so they don't know which way is up.

Peter Sunde is working for the other side! He no Finn-Norwegen by genes he is something else so who is his mother.

It was a STING job.
15:51 April 27, 2010 by Britswedeguy
TPB no longer provides torrent files as such but magnet links - an entirely different technology not covered by the (very suspect) original ruling.
19:27 April 27, 2010 by eZee.se
The site was sued for running a tracker that tracked torrent files,

tracker has been deleted (for those of you slow, like the music industry who might read this, that means it cannot track the torrent files anymore) so whats the problem M Wadstad?

Also good luck trying to get both the boys to serve any sentences, they dont live in Sweden anymore (not that i blame them after the very judge (and legal system) in their court case was corrupted).

Dear movie and music giants, you say the boys are still tied to TPB... well, ***prove it***.

From my knowledge of the law, the way its SUPPOSED to work is, you say someone is guilty and you prove it, not you say someone is guilty and they have to prove they are innocent.

Now I'll just fire up my VPN and utorrent, f**k you and your bought laws very much.
03:38 April 28, 2010 by jazzIIIlove

very well sad, no tracker information must mean no problem.
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