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Sparks fly in first Left- Sweden Democrat duel

TT/The Local · 8 Oct 2010, 08:15

Published: 08 Oct 2010 08:15 GMT+02:00

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The two party leaders, who have rarely had kinds words for one another, didn’t sit in the same room for the debate, but were linked via satellite by Sveriges Radio (SR) for the Thursday afternoon session, which began with Ohly calling the Sweden Democrats a “racist party” which “is pulling society apart”.

“One must be able to criticize certain cultures and cultural expressions without it being called racist,” countered Åkesson.

Refugee and immigration issued dominated the discussion. And neither party leader was able to find much common ground with the other’s views.

“You want to stop people from being reunited with the people they love. That’s among the most offensive things I can imagine,” said Ohly.

Åkesson replied that there was nothing dictating that such reunifications had to occur in Sweden, pointing out the high costs of doing so.

“There’s no special tree with money growing on it to pay for everything that is nice, pleasant, and deserving,” he said.

The Left Party leader has earlier refused to debate Åkesson. When both were scheduled to appear on Sveriges Television (SVT) on election night, Ohly refused to sit in the same make-up room with the leader of the Sweden Democrats, something Åkesson referred to as “childish”.

“I’ve had debated with many other party leaders. Lars Ohly has taken things to the extreme and won’t even say hi to me or shake my hand when we meet,” said Åkesson, drawing a heated response from Ohly.

“I obviously greet everyone in the Riksdag, you want to make yourself out to be a martyr,” the Left Party leader replied.

Despite the sharp exchanges, both leaders admitted that their parties could end up voting the same way on certain issues, like Sweden’s military presence in Afghanistan.

“It’s almost never going to happen, but when it comes to Afghanistan, sure. But we’re never going to look to the Sweden Democrats, but rather will put forward what we think is right,” said Ohly.

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Ohly also rebuffed the notion that the Left and the Sweden Democrats could defeat the Alliance by working together.

“That’s the fault of the government, it’s the government’s responsibility to ensure that their proposals get through,” said Ohly.

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08:54 October 8, 2010 by calebian22
So in three short weeks, Ohly has gone from not being in the same room, to debating Åkesson. Well, there may be hope after all.
09:05 October 8, 2010 by Carnitas
I'm pretty impressed that Ohly actually took part in an organized debate with Åkesson. Though he's clearly wrong, Ohly did at least participate, which is a lot more than can be said for 99% of the left-wing, pro-Islam crowd who resorts only to name-calling and avoidance of the issues....especially on these boards.
09:09 October 8, 2010 by Marley420
It would be classic if a researcher or historian published the ancestorial lineage of Jimmie Åkesson showing that he is not Swedish.
09:24 October 8, 2010 by Plowbridge
It seems that despite all that has gone before us only Lars Ohly is prepared to debate immigration. When will Swedes ever learn to stand up and confront issues rather than go into denial?. It's not like the message was unclear. Many voted SD because no-one in Parliament would discuss or face the immigration concerns.

But still the tumbleweed blows across the competences of Reinfeldt, Björklund, coconut Sabuni, Olofsson, Ask and the old bints Sahlin and Lundby-Wedin. They remain in contempt of their responsibilities.

Typical Swedes. Typical Sweden
09:39 October 8, 2010 by hpunlimited
Sweden lost its spirit after the battle in "Poltava". Ever since, Swedes have been putting themselves down, saying things like "other" cultures and people are better than themselves. Happy to jump the bandwagon were the "commies" when they came along.
09:47 October 8, 2010 by salalah
Åkesson looks like a little weasel
10:02 October 8, 2010 by Frobobbles
There are no money trees?
10:22 October 8, 2010 by Luckystrike
Very promising indeed. Finally one politician with brains that is wanting to engage with the SD, Bravo Ohly.

I agree with Plowbridge totally. Look...the Swedes have every right to not want refuges (I mean who does actually WANT refuges) and have tighter restrictions on immigration outside of the EU. The issue is, Swedes are ignorant, "complain...complain...Bit&h...complain... but ultimately..ignore the problem and hope it will just go away eventually" is what most do and think...

There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to keep " Sweden Swedish" and as an immigrant, this inspires me to want to learn more about the Swedish culture...improve my Swedish language skills. If you were in my "Home" country, I'd expect you do do the exact same thing!! ( Keep Britain British - Doesn't sound so bad now ha?! )

I have a feeling this is starting to change though with the SD ultimately controlling parliament.
10:50 October 8, 2010 by Nemesis
Åkesson has black hair. How Swedish is that?

Also Åkesson has a short face. According to the 'Rasbiologiska Institutet' that ran Eugenics in Sweden until the 1950's, he is therefore not Swedish and should be sterilised.

He wants nazism. He should be given a serious dose of Nazism. He should be sterilised as unfit to breed, according to Swedish standards as laid down by the Rasbiologiska Institutet and made government policy and law in the 1930's by the Social Democrats.

As for Lars Ohly. He is a hypocrite.

Lars Ohly is a member of Vänsterpartiet.

Vänsterpartiet fully and openly supported the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union which divided up Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

Vänsterpartiet fully and openly supported the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939, calling it liberation from imperialistic western powers.

Vänsterpartiet openly and fully supported the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1940, giving there reason as "The border states have been liberated from their dependence of imperialist superpowers through the help from the great socialist worker's state".

Vänsterpartiet fully and openly supported the Soviet invasion of Estonia in 1940, calling it liberation.

Vänsterpartiet fully and openly supported the Soviet invasion of Latvia in 1940, calling it liberation.

Vänsterpartiet fully and openly supported the Soviet invasion of Lithuania in 1940, calling it liberation.

When Nazi Germany invaded Norway in 1940, Vänsterpartiet called the invasion a "Setback for British Imperialism".

When the Soviet Union stayed in occupation of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania after 1945, the Vänsterpartiet considered the people of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to have been liberated, when in fact they were held in oppression for decades.

As politicians go, Jimmie Åkesson and Lars Ohly are actually more hypocritical than most politicians.

They both come from a nazi background wether they admit it or not.

Åkesson is a nazi in sheeps clothing and Ohly comes from a political party that has supported deals with Nazis that led to the deaths of millions.

Åkesson and Ohly are the flip sides of the same coin. Bigotry and the need to oppress, masquerading as ideals.
10:50 October 8, 2010 by marianne667
The Swedes are hypocrites. I would not be surprised at all if 75% secretly agree w/ Jimmie. Somebody must have voted him in. My granny who was born in France told me that she was never made to feel at home in Sweden although she lived here for 40 years.
10:55 October 8, 2010 by Nemesis
@ marianne667,

Unfortunately you maybe more right on that than most of us would be comfortable admitting.
10:58 October 8, 2010 by Pmsr
Nothing like ideological train wreck for good laughs.
11:17 October 8, 2010 by Åskar

And he is one.
11:48 October 8, 2010 by know
Why is Ohly afraid to meet with Åkesson. without discussion no civilistion ! Fight for each other instead of fighting against each other.
11:56 October 8, 2010 by jbat
Black hair cannot be Swedish.. deported him immediately hahaha
12:00 October 8, 2010 by jbat
Ops-- only him should be deported... never allow his brown hair family to be deported or leaving the country (or they could be charge for treason).. wseparated them.. who care! :-)
12:11 October 8, 2010 by jbat
why the media like this TL and also this big fat L party keep on referring their target immigrant as immigrant? not direct refugee or more direct muslim refugee or arab refugee?

i know this is the reason why do many this party boys don't fear this party anti "immigrant" policy cause it is not them even there are also immigrants...
12:39 October 8, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
"You want to stop people from being reunited with the people they love."

Let´s break this down a bit.

One argument goes that people here in north are ageing and we need more immigration to better the dependecy ratio.

But: if and when you bring your whole family with you, will this actually do any good for the dependency ratio?

This is a perfectly legitimate question, I mean, how is the humanitarian migration being "selled" to people?
12:55 October 8, 2010 by asian369
One day, you discover that some mysterious CANCER has affected 5.7% of your body, what will you do?

Most of us would get shocked first and become highly disappointed.

BUT we MUST ACCEPT this cancer first as it does not matter if we get shocked or disappointed because CANCER would stay there or may increase. The best course of ACTION would be to cure the CANCER. If it works then fine but if doesn't then DEATH IS ENEVITABLE.
13:01 October 8, 2010 by jbat

why the media like this TL and also this big fat L party keep on referring their target immigrant as immigrant? not direct refugee or more direct muslim refugee or arab refugee?

i know this is the reason why do many this party boys don't fear this party anti "immigrant" policy cause it is not them even there are also immigrants...

Why afraid to show your true face anti "immigrant" party?
13:40 October 8, 2010 by rafa1981
I´m going to SFI classes and have many Irani, Iraki, Lithuanian and Somalian friends there, my SFI classes are those of högskolespåret for immigrants with high-education.

I explained them about the liberalization of Europe, and how a welfare state cannot be abolished from one day to another but with strategies like the classic problem-reaction-solution scheme, were a problem is artificially created by higher classes to make the lower classes claim for the solution, solution that is the objective from the first moment of the artificially created problem.

I told them that "if you came Sweden to live a better life it' s better for your future to care about the system sustainability, you don't want to happen the liberalization that already started", no complains.

A liberalization can be good or bad for the lower classes, nothing is absolute in this world, but by the way they are selling it to us (lying) smells very bad.
14:05 October 8, 2010 by Cornelius Hamelberg

Hi Skyfell,

Freedom of Speech: Blah blah vita lamm, this is a personal perspective on this issue. (Not necessarily my perspective – that will come when I make myself clear in reply to what Ohly said to Åkesson, about

” racism” as SD policy.)


Guess who's fighting Sverige vs. invandrare?

This is a de-mentation to Nemesis, so full of venom:

Viva La Sverige Demokrater!

Viva La Sverige Demokrater!

Viva La Sverige Demokrater!

You must all admit,

(some of the dog people, with repugnance of course)

but nevertheless, you must also admit

that there's something universal

about our SverigeDemokrater.


is your sympathy?

Where is the love?

You don't have any?

Mine is with poor Jimmie, the underdog. He's under fire. Shadow-boxing late at night in the wine cellar, sparks fly in parliament a little later, sparks flying like “toy guns that spark.” and yet, Damn Nam, neither of them would like to be sent to fight in Afghanistan.

Over here:

The referee of the boxing spree is from the Moderate party.

On the left corner the heavyweight champion of Central Committee Vänsterpartiet – he who on election night refused to sit, comfortably, in the same room as Herr Åkesson, is now sitting together with him in the bowels of the Swedish parliament. He has no choice. They are now exchanging blows, via satellite radio. The honeymoon hasn't yet begun. Have already started exchanging blows.

That was just Round 1. Young Åkesson hasn't warmed up yet – and Ohly? At this stage it has not got into anti-capitalism pugilism. He's well trained (he's newly engaged. Proposed on TV. Orally, of course. Now exchanging blows. Ohly of course wants to get the immigrants votes in the next election. Without the immigrants' vote, he would totally disappear. From the scene.


To be invited to Ohly's wedding; I suspect that you'll have to become a member of the party (VP). At least it could increase your chances of being invited to witness and celebrate the event. I don't think that he's going to invite Carl Bildt or Herr Åkesson either.

The way things are going just now with Åkesson and his party and his relationship with all of his Swedish people, his immigrants, his asylum seekers, the refugees, his Muslims inhabitants of whom opines, “As a Sweden Democrat, I see this as our greatest external threat since World War II and I promise to use all my power to change the trend during next year's election,” writes Åkesson.”


It's almost certain that if a few of Jimmy Åkesson's enemies could only get their filthy hands on him and on Lars Vilks too, what would happen thereafter would be recorded in history, as reality. That it actually happened.

When dream becomes real-ity and reality becomes policy, or reality becomes an object - not of idolatry like Vilk's most famous piece of art, a result of what he saw – in his own mind, and reported in his work of art.

Vilks & Åkesson are not so strange bed fellows, no stranger than the Bishop of Stockholm and Her Ladyship, her first lady.

Vilks and Jimmy Åkesson. Nice name Jimmie. Like Jimi Hendrix.

(When Diblo Dibala used to be in a really wicked mood, Pepe Kalle used to call him “Mama Jimi!”)

Ohly & Åkesson. (I suspect that Ohly doesn't want even his name to appear next to that of Åkesson, or to be in any way associated with him. Small planet.

Either of them could sing together, or separately, the line that goes like this:

” And if my thought-dreams could be seen

They'd probably put my head in a guillotine “…..

“As some warn victory, some downfall

Private reasons great or small

Can be seen in the eyes of those that call

To make all that should be killed to crawl

While others say don't hate nothing at all

Except hatred

Disillusioned words like bullets bark

As human gods aim for their mark

Make everything from toy guns that spark

To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark

It's easy to see without looking too far

That not much is really sacred”

14:38 October 8, 2010 by theibmsstate2000
basically sweden democrat more fans are in BLEKINGE, you know in Blekinge only 20% are native swedish,other all are immigrants from finland,dutch or other eu countries many years before they came,swedish are very honest people swedish people dont think like that.blekinge is very change place,i am living in blekinge,so dont blame on swedish,just see Åkesoon has black hairs .
15:01 October 8, 2010 by wiserthanmos
welcome to the islamic kingdom of sweden
15:15 October 8, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ asian369

The only "CANCER" Sweden has is the one caused by islamic immigration and it is slowly eating the national corpse in every way, slowly but steadily.

That's way some people concerned about the future of their country and people decided to do something and make a stand. Those people are SD. They are not perfect but brave enough to take to first blows from every direction and in every way before Swedes wake up and get sober.

And for that reason alone - they are heroes.
15:29 October 8, 2010 by wiserthanmos
I couldn't wait to see Sweden becomes an Islamic State. I couldn't wait to see these lefties set their tails and run. But I tell you now lefties...the people that you called "racists" that you've demonized will remember you and im sure they will return you kindness.
15:33 October 8, 2010 by Tanskalainen
Is there a Swedenstan in your future?
15:56 October 8, 2010 by theibmsstate2000
well SD doesnt exists, inshallah sweden will be islamic state one day, i dont know why non muslims has problems with muslims.i dont know why ,what muslims did with non muslims that they dont like muslims,there must be some reason.

i tell to all guys dont worry abt SD, this SD party cannt do so much.just 5% power they, 95% power is with other parties.so dont worry.sweden will be sucessful state in the world without SD.next time election i challenge SD will even hardly get 1% votes.
16:06 October 8, 2010 by Jarvilainennen

Maybe a bit carried away we are? But still:





16:07 October 8, 2010 by Roy E
Sometimes its good to recall multiculturalism did for Beruit.

Sweden can have that future too, if it so chooses.
16:09 October 8, 2010 by wiserthanmos
You hear that people? the Muslims don't know why you hate them? anyone?
16:24 October 8, 2010 by Jarvilainennen
I for one do not hate anyone. There´s just a time for everything. A certain window in the progress of society. Perhaps there´s a time to question if this window needs to be closed at some point?
16:31 October 8, 2010 by Swedesmith
Oh, but there is a money tree. It is fertilized with the bulls--- of politicians and watered with the blood of the tax payer.
17:29 October 8, 2010 by izbz
Åkesson sure look like a baby who just stop breast feeding,,,,,Little boy who is trying to act tough in politics. Maybe he don't realize what he is there for just like a puppet on a string. Poor boy!!!!! should stay home with mama.....bad influence for him
18:48 October 8, 2010 by Jarvilainennen

This Åkersson- fellow is highly probably just another tit-cheeck, by the looks of him anyway. I´m willing to bet he´s carricature won´t last long after election.

With a paper-thin platform and a baby-face, what can you do?

And I would´t trust a guy in he´s late 20´s to begin with.
18:50 October 8, 2010 by Rebel
I will note that not all members of the Swedish Democrats are ethnic Swedes -- some are Slavic, Middle Eastern or Balkin. And not all are Christian -- some are Jews, many are plain old Swedish agnostics, and others are Orthodox.
19:14 October 8, 2010 by Tanskalainen
Lars Ohly wear women's underwear.
19:54 October 8, 2010 by Swedesmith
Is that wrong?
21:55 October 8, 2010 by 2350steven
I urge all indiginous people of Sweden to support the Sweden Democrats. Do not sacrifice your great counry to the 3rd world. They will gladly take it and ruin it. The sooner you get rid of your white guilt the better. Please read "A Warning for America from South Africa" By: Gemma Meyer
21:56 October 8, 2010 by wiserthanmos
Europe today is like Rome in the fifth century, the Barbarians are already at the gate and these people are too busy fighting each other, they even try to protect their potential enemies, how sad is that? Well, take heed you mentally challenge Swedes...your generosity to the wrong people will lead to your demise. Sometime I wonder, do you really have a big heart or you just plainly stupid? Why you do not see the inevitable?
21:58 October 8, 2010 by Mike #1986
I've been living and working in Sweden for over 10 years and I'm not Swedish nor do I ever want to be one I see dicks getting Swedish passports and for what they are bloody stale miserable and a race living in denial.

I reckon give europe another generation and there will be wars starting all over the place and when that happens im doing the runner.
22:06 October 8, 2010 by wiserthanmos
Revolutions accross Europe is inevitable and these lefties incharge keep ignoring it. I guess They still believe in fairy tails...
22:25 October 8, 2010 by asian369
@Mike#1986... "Im doing the runner"... plz take me along.
00:06 October 9, 2010 by frosti
«Ohly calling the Sweden Democrats a "racist party" which "is pulling society apart".»

HAHAHAHAH so the thousands of assaults, robberies, and rapes committed in Sweden by non-western immigrants every year are NOT "pulling society apart"? Arab kids who feel at ease with punching 78-year-old women in the face and killing them over parking lot disputes aren't "pulling society apart"? District attorneys who refuse to prosecute Iraqis who gang-rape 12-year-old Swedish girls with the logic that the poor kids are "already victims" who have "suffered enough" in their homeland aren't "tearing Sweden apart"? Muslims getting a whole three years in youth detention for murdering teenage girls aren't "pulling society apart"? Entire neighborhoods that even the police are afraid to go into aren't a symptom of a society being pulled apart? Political and civic leaders who believe it's "racist" even for high school kids to have a Swedish flag emblem on their purse or wear a tiny Swedish flag patch on their football uniform aren't "pulling society apart"?

The Swedish left has in fact spent the last 30 years doing everything they could to "tear society apart" -all their attempts to "deconstruct" the concepts of nationality and ethnic identity, their virulent attacks on traditional structures and morals, their disdain for their own culture and institutions, their apparent hatred of anything resembling success and progress, etc., etc., ad nauseam. They may have actually been about "tolerance" and "compassion" at some distant point forty or fifty years ago, but now they are morally bankrupt, ideologically corrupt, deliberately malicious, and even hateful -witness Mona Sahlin making comments like, "Swedes are so boring, we should draw inspiration from the East. Islam could liven Sweden up." and "Swedish culture is silly." When people allow their own leaders to basically tell them that they suck and need to be augmented by hipper, more interesting people from somewhere else, that country is in deep trouble.

The left in Sweden and the culture they have created are a throbbing pustule that needs to be lanced, and Jimmy has the scalpel. The right will only grow stronger as people continue to wake up from the lies, propaganda, and brainwashing they've been subjected to all these years. It's not about hate or the other shibboleths the left is squealing about in their outrage that someone has finally dared to stand up to them and tell them they're wrong. It's about right and wrong, it's about refusing to allow people who choose to behave like sociopaths to dictate to everyone else the terms as to how we shall live, it's about simple, basic common sense, in the most immediate sense it's simply about saving the lives both of ethnic Swedes and immigrants alike.
00:30 October 9, 2010 by 2350steven
I'd like to know if the same type of phenomina in the news media that is going on over here in the USA is happening in Sweden. That being the surpression of Black on White crime. Over here they seem to bend over backwards to cover-up Black on White crime yet shout from the rooftops when ever a White attacks a Black, which is a rarity. Some examples of this are the "Wichita Massacre, The Knoxville Carjacking, The recent Flash Mobs in Philly, Denver, and Kansas City, and the "Beat Whitey Night" in Iowa. Not to mention the full blown Genocide of Whites in South Africa. All covered-up by the MSM.
00:37 October 9, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ frosti

Touched with the level of truth and intelligence in your post. Spread the word, here and in the "real world".
09:48 October 9, 2010 by wiserthanmos
I have a solution for you Swedes. Since you are too afraid of the muslim refugees in your own country...I would suggest that you take in an equal amount of Vietnamese, Japanese, Koreans and Chinese and put them in cities like Malmo, Stockholm or whichever city that crowded the parasites and your problems will be solved. Not only these people are smart, they also hard working and have no fear in the face of their enermies and you would need them to do battles for you!
11:11 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp

Wiser than a mouse.....???? You sound like you are about as wise as a jackass. A mouse is much wiser than you. Maybe a cockroach????

So your model is white south Africa? You really are a genius.

Swedes are not afraid of Muslims, Jews or Christians. But they are afraid of vermin like you.

I suggest you buy yourself a one way ticket back to your own hell hole, wherever that is.
11:23 October 9, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ cowiegirl

Oh shut up for once. Your lying muslim propaganda convinced no one.
11:51 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp
@good wish you were 81

Your propaganda is the only type that needs to be quieted. We have Adolf Åkesson in Sweden, we don't need any more nazi's like you.

But I heard there is room for you in.. Poland. See ya, don't bother writing.
12:02 October 9, 2010 by wenddiver
@frosti- I was truely moved by your post. I think what you said about your country can probably be said about every country in the West. Internationalist Sabotuers have used our own Governments to attack and dismember our once proud nations and dismantle our universally envied cultures. They have glorified a culture of souless atheism where man, woman and child are as low as the animals they eat and their is no goal higher than seing who can be the most alienating, strange and pervse.

Not being happy with the multi-cultural hells they have inflicted on working class families they presume to enter our very homes and tech our children we are bigots and hatemongers if we don't want to convert to their teachings. They bring hate filled Islamists and violent oppressors to our land who would not allow us to live peacefully and practice our culture or Religion in their land.

Maybe we almost had to lose your culture and your country, before we understood the danger. Hopefully, the whole West is waking up, so we don't enter an Islamic future that will make the Dark Ages look posetivly enlightened. If the Swedish Democrats can aid that, I say Great.
12:05 October 9, 2010 by ericrufinosiah
I agree totally,with the suggestions made by Wiserthanmos that perhaps the New

Swedish Government encourage the immigration of people from countries like

China,Korea,Vietnam,Japan and added to it Buddhist Burma,Thailand,Nepal and

Sri Lanka as these people would assimilate more easily without conditions into

Sweden unlike those who wanted to impose their primitive cultures and knowledge into the Swedish System.Anyway,if the naive people of Sweden keeps

bickering and fighting among themselves then,oneday not too far in the future when their neighours and holier than thou immigrants which previous Swedish Government had been inviting them into Sweden,became Saladins.I must take a

salute to Jimme Akesson for his far-sightness and his sacrifices to bring awareness to the peace loving native Swedish .3 cheers for Jimme Akesson and Sweden Democrat.
13:11 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp
Oh how cute, people are moved by Frosti's posts. I don't know if I should laugh or puke.

One can take individual incidences and formulate a conclusion about the whole society. Crime is committed by criminals, nothing more and nothing less. Law enforcement is needed to deal with criminals, not brainless ideology.

If you people think that 99.9% of rational people in the world are going to allow a second holocaust, then you all have another thing coming. The war of words has been dominated by your likes for too long, but the rational are just getting started.

The days of misinformation are over. So enjoy your hateful propaganda for now.
13:30 October 9, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ cow

...and one can as easily, for instance, take true, empirical statistical data about the extreme rise of rape rate in Sweden in the last 15-20 years, which is one of the highest in the Western countries, and all thanks to "peaceful" and "misunderstud" muslim immigrants. And thats just the tip of the iceberg of the problems caused by pisslamic immigration.

So shut your shitholle and stop spreading lies. Naked facts stand for them selfes.

People are slowly waking up. Face it amigo, pardon, islamigo.
13:41 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp
@Goo 81

Your turning 30 soon, time to grow up. Its really sad.

And you got it my bully friend, people are waking up, and like me they are Islamigo, Jewmigo, Christamigo. Basically a Amigo to all but a Pesadilla to your kind.

PS. I am impressed that you have internet connection at your trailed park.
14:16 October 9, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ cow

You're a funny guy, really, most of your posts make me laugh. If it's not personal agenda you're up to complete jibberish and lies, with a touch of "the world is Disneyland and we're all good brothers" crap - just to soften your pro-islam atttitides. Neat, but also transparent and pathetic.

If it's growing up time for someone then the bell tols for the, my friend. People are a bit wiser then you would like them to be.

And oh, you haven't wrote a single letter, concerning my last post, that would dispute just one example of the islamic "pasadilla" that was brought to Sweden (to refresh your memory, rise of the rape rate was at question). But then again, I wasnt really expecting it because you can't. See ya
15:12 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp
@ Goo 81;

I try not to provide proof of my views, due to the fact that people like you are not really interested in facts. This point is obvious, otherwise the 95% of people in Sweden which you claim are asleep, would have recognized by now that there is a MAJOR problem.

But I have an excerpt for you from your predecessors in Nazi Germany. Feel free to substitute Muslims, where Jews are mentioned:

(In this war for the very existence of the German people, we must daily remind ourselves that Jewry unleashed this war against us. It makes no difference if the Jew conceals himself as a Bolshevist or a plutocrat, a Freemason, or uses some other form of concealment, or even appears without any mask at all: he always remains the same. He is the one who so agitated and spiritually influenced the peoples that stand against us today such that they have become more or less tools of International Jewry, lacking their own will.

As early as 1922, the Führer said: "We were also those who, for the first time, made major efforts to explain to the people a danger that had crept up on us, and which millions of people did not recognize, even though it threatened to ruin us all: the danger of the Jews." In his book Mein Kampf (p. 335)
18:11 October 9, 2010 by Goodwill81
@ Cow

Sry but nobody's buying the anti-immigration = national-socialism story, so please don't try to act stupid.

Different concerns and problems are at stake, gas chamber and mass extermination aren't an option, I think that should be clear. Survival of the West as it is (culturally and demographicaly) is the main concern. For you that obviously doesn't represent anything, but for many of the people it does (just they aren't aware or don't have time to be aware of the danger, yet).

Swedes, Germans, Danes, Englishmen...they all have just their own, one country. On the other side many ill-mannered muslim immigrants are trying to change their hosts country while their (Iraq, Iran, Turkey...) remains pure and intact. Not the mention the double standards that bans anything with christian prefix in many muslim countries.

Not fair at all and somebody's gotta make a stand.
19:51 October 9, 2010 by izbz

Really don't care if Lars Ohly wears women underwears or wears his underwear on top of his long john like Superman, as long as he can do a good job than I will support him. All I am asking is for a better Sweden without Bias and Dicrimination. I am sure everyone in Sweden wants that!!!!! I don't even give two hoots if he is a Muslim, just make Sweden a better place!

Well! Åkesson and company walked out of the church when the Bishop preached about rasism and equality without even mentioning any party....that can only prove to me one damn thing: He and his company are definately rasist, don't believe in equality. Wounds hurts when scratched!!!!

I AM AN IMMIGRANT BUT since I am a swedish citizen then I am a Swedish. But I guess to these people I'll always an immigrant. Maybe they should catigorise us as Sweimigrant. ELLER HUR!!!!
20:30 October 9, 2010 by ww77ww
Cow makes the same brainless nazi comparisons as the rest of the wothless and ignorant farleft. anyone who says "nazi" or "hitler" when the immigration debate begins needs to be removed from discussion, for they lack the intelligence to have a valid opinion. The red herring and strawman schools of debate have no place in a logical world, nor does the submission had by the impotent far left when the subject is 10000 years worth of immigration being dumped in what was the western world in a mere generaion.
20:58 October 9, 2010 by cowboykodp
@ Goo 81 and Wowwow 77;


Unless you're living in a cave (which I have a feeling you do), about .. Hmm , lets see 95% of the Swedes do buy the Nazi argument. You do follow the news don't you.

Sometimes I wish I was a NAZI wanabe like you guys (and SD), so everyone would hate me too.

Come on, just admit it, you guys could give a rats ass about immigration issues. You guys are more Like a pair of old bigots sitting in a park and comparing notes.
02:21 October 10, 2010 by wiserthanmos
If you people keep calling them Nazi, may be one day they just become ones, then see what will happen??? The SD are not racists(at least most of them) they are just patriots!
16:16 October 10, 2010 by Scambaiter
Jesus, what a lot of bigots, racists and xenophobes on this thread. I feel like throwing up.

I'm not a communist of even a leftist, but these "patriotic" Sweden Democrats only got what....5-6% of the vote? That means they have a tiny mandate of idiots supporting them, mostly cowards who run around the Internet posting racist filth or looking down on other nationalities because they're not Swedish.

Where are the immigration issues in Skåne and Blekinge, the SD heartland? Total rubbish. There are none in Sjöbo or the other intolerant redneck areas. I can agree that there are problems in Södertälje, primarily because of the large influx of CHRISTIAN Assyrians and Iraqis. Some residential areas have overly large immigrant populations because they're poor, like Rosenborg and Rinkeby, and because Swedes moved out to other richer areas. In other words, that's a class issue.

I live in a working-class, multi-ethnic, integrated area in the south of Stockholm, 50/60% ethnic Swedes and everyone gets along just fine. The immigrant kids grow up speaking good Swedish as well as their native language. There's no violencea and very little vandalism. All you SD lot are doing is stirring up trouble where there is none.

And while we're at it, nearly every single tradition in Sweden is foreign from Xmas to Lucia to Halloween...most of the dishes you eat are foreign...most of the clothes you wear are foreign or made in foreign countries...the majority of the cars you drive are foreign,...the majority of the TV programmes you watch are foreign...most of the music you listen to is foreign...and even your King and Queen are foreign.

Time to get with the program...Sweden is a multicultural society!
16:34 October 10, 2010 by wiserthanmos
They didn't say that they don't like you refugees, they just don't like too many of you here that's all. See the difference here dumb ass?
16:41 October 10, 2010 by Scambaiter
ROFL!...and muppets like frosti and wiserthanmos who claim that crime and rape didn't exist in Sweden in "the good old days before Arab immigration".

No lads, instead we had Sven Svenne in his stuga getting ratfaced on moonshine and then beating up his wife and kids. Paedophilia and homophobia didn't exist of course, back in the good old days...not. Nor murder, bank robbery, car theft, drug crimes, etc etc. Each and every Swede that was ever born is a law-abiding citizen who never drinks and drives or fiddles his taxes.

What a bunch of baloney.

The truth is that the "rape rate has gone up" because women are far more likely to report it that 20 years ago, and this is because the courts are far more likely to convict the rapist, and there is less stigma attached. Of course, in the good old days when Pelle Svanslös raped his wife it was filed under domestic abuse or kept under wraps.

And another fact is that reported violent crime has actually been going down in Sweden, although it gets far more publicity of course...especially if the perpetrator is a foreigner. How convenient for the rabble rousers.

Remember John Hron?...beaten up by nazis = SD and dumped in a lake to drown. Or the African guy who had his head used as a football the same year...the list is endless.

Sverige Demokraterna = Sveriges värsta hycklare!
16:56 October 10, 2010 by wiserthanmos
Quick people! move to Malmö it's heaven there! These refugees are just perfect and innocent why do you pick on these law abiding people? They are Saints!
19:06 October 10, 2010 by janswed
Immigration policies should be like an invititation to coctailparty you are invited,and welcome, but please do not start re-arranging the furniture!
20:05 October 10, 2010 by cowboykodp

Koodos my friend. I couldn't have said it better. These self hating, spineless immigrants on this web site are nothing but racist and bigots.

I heard a great terminology for these people along with their idols (SD, EDL, BNP, Nazis , etc.)

"Repackaged Racists".

The new packaging being Islamophobia, But they are the same old racist, anti-semite, KKK loosers. When they are done, they will go once more after Jews, Gays, Blacks, ...........

Please continue posting.
20:58 October 10, 2010 by Scambaiter
Nothing much more to say really, cowboykop. You're doing a great job.

Half the people posting on this thread don't even live in Sweden and certainly don't have Sweden's best interests at heart. They're just bitter fools and Internet bigots, spouting misinformation and propaganda.

It's the same rubbish they had to put up with in the UK in the 70s with the National Front, true "patriots" marching provocatively through multi-ethnic areas waving their Union Jacks. Now all those "nasty immigrants" they were all up in arms about have integrated and their children and grandchildren are as British as football hooliganism and afternoon tea.

There are quite a few muslims where I live...from various countries...and most of them don't even wear headscarves. Their kids mix with other kids in school and in the playground and by the time they're all adults they'll be just as Swedish as everyone else, except of course not as accepted by this racist minority.

And yes, there are a few rotten eggs in every community. They should be dealt with by the law just like every other citizen.

As for wiserthanmos...if there are a few "ghettos" in Sweden it's because you have created them by not allowing immigrants/refugees the opportunity to make a decent living and better their lives, and by forcing them to do menial jobs like driving taxis and cleaning offices so they can't afford to live in anything better than communal housing. It's because Swedes have moved out of these areas to live with each other.

There are over 100 nationalities living in Rinkeby. And when I see a queue of Swedes at the Swedish shop in London buying their Kalles kaviar and their salt liquorice - or a retired Swedish couple who buy a home in Spain but never bother to learn the language - I laugh at the irony.
18:46 October 11, 2010 by 2350steven
Whites in the USA are getting tired of the double standards. Latinos can wear a "Brown Pride" Tee shirt in public. Blacks can wear Black Power tee shirts complete with raised fist. Can whites wear a tee shirt that promotes the fact that they too are proud of their race? NO. They are called Nazis, KKK's, Racist, and much more. Might even be thrown in prison.
23:36 October 11, 2010 by Biorealist
***It's because Swedes have moved out of these areas to live with each other. ***

Perhaps to avoid sexual assault which is now the highest in Europe?
09:17 October 12, 2010 by Scambaiter

That's because they are Nazis, Steven. White Americans are the vast majority and they have a chequered past of racism and slavery. They don't need more power than they already have.

To Bioracist

Another muppet making inflammatory statements on the Internet without proof or a reference to back it up. Probably you're just quoting SD propaganda?

I lived in Italy for many years. Italian girls get "sexually assaulted" most days of the week, especially in the south, they just don't report it.
18:52 October 12, 2010 by 2350steven
The winds are changing. Revolution is in the air. And it will not be the type that Bob Dylan sang about.
00:03 October 13, 2010 by vb74

That is just stupid. Steven makes a valid point about double standards and as far as whites being the vast majority in U.S. whites make up about 65% of the pop. hardly a vast majority. And the whole statement that rape hasn't actually increased, it is just reported more now is non sence. Besides what is it something like 65% of convicted rapist are muslims and only 5% of the populatin is muslim, IMAGINE that! Regardless I can tell you are a muslim and everyone knows muslims are the biggest hypocrites and liars on the planet, you call anyone who tells the truth about you people bigots and nazis,while you people are homophobics who hate white people because your cuture has an inferiority complex.And you people oppress women and hate gays because your sexually insecure (what's wrong don't quite measure up)? But people all over the world of every race and religion are getting fed up with you people and your twisted little cult of rapists and pedophiles, it's only a matter of time. Tick,Tock!
04:50 October 13, 2010 by ericrufinosiah
Whether Jimme Akesson is of Swedish ancestry is not important but he is a Swedish both in heart and soul and his actions speaks louder that words of the others who are real hypocrites.Without him and Sweden Democrat leading the

part to unveil the truth on the current immigration problem especially with the

influx and increased population of the Holier Than Thou immigrants,I'll have to agree with the comments of " wiserthanmos " that in the not too future " Sweden

will be known as " ? " and it was mentioned by some Australians that their country will be an Islamic country in 30 years'time.
17:36 October 13, 2010 by rumcajs
Yeah, it ain't good to have such a wild immigration, but if we wanna be fare and at the same time keep the f**g system we have, we'll have to bite the bullet.

You right supporters always say to the ones who complain that life aint easy and that's the way it is, etc every time some big company, boss or who ever more powerfull than us wanna take advantage, but never wanna hear it your selves. Well folks, if you wanna keep being so economicaly liberal and all that crap, you have to swallow the immigration like a 30 dollar b***w job... as simple as that.
19:01 October 14, 2010 by izbz

What kind of s"it name is that? So you are one of those who are not rasist like wiserthanmos

with a BUT::::::::::

There are some nutty muslims but not a majority are, and also some rasist people who call themselves SWedes but not all Swedish are . So please don't give Swedish a bad name.

Good thing you and wiserthanmos(not so wise I presume) are not helping to run these country.
23:22 October 14, 2010 by wxman
Rather than ideological debate, the left's fist position is to name-call and attempt to marginalize their opponent irrelevent to the issue at hand.
03:47 October 15, 2010 by manrush
@ frosti the moron.

You're a moron.

@wxman, the other moron

If you right-wing xenophobic slime had an actual valid argument, then we on the left would be glad to debate you. But you have nothing other than tired old hate blog and Faux Noise talking points.
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