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Report: 'Russia lied in Wallenberg probe'

David Landes · 2 Aug 2011, 10:19

Published: 02 Aug 2011 10:19 GMT+02:00

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“They've been caught red handed,” historian Susanne Berger told The Local of the Russian actions.

“This ranks as one of the most significant findings in the Raoul Wallenberg case in the last 50 years.”

The new accusations of Russian deception regarding what happened to Wallenberg come following the publication of a new book, “Secrets of the Third Reich Diplomacy,” which contains interrogation transcripts from several German diplomats imprisoned by the Soviet Union following World War II, including Willy Rödel, who was Wallenberg's long-term cellmate in Moscow's Lefortovo prison from 1945-1947.

The book was published earlier this year by archivists of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB)— the successor to the KGB.

Historian Vadim Birstein, a Russian-born researcher now based in the United States, who along with Berger served on the 1991 Swedish-Russian Working Group tasked with looking into Wallenberg's disappearance, came across the book while researching SMERSH, the Soviet military counterintelligence active during the second part of World War II.

“I was very surprised to find Russian translations of two statements written by Rödel in the new book compiled by the FSB archivists,” Birstein told The Local.

“For years the FSB central archive wrote to Susanne Berger and me claiming that Rödel’s investigation file did not exist.”

According to Berger and Birstein, the emergence of the statements made by Wallenberg's cellmate mark a significant turning point in the quest to learn the truth about Wallenberg's time in Soviet custody.

”There is a fundamental difference now,” said Berger.

“We can prove the deception...they've lied.”

Wallenberg, who managed to rescue tens of thousands of Jews destined for death camps while working as a Swedish diplomat in Budapest during the Soviet occupation of the Hungarian capital, went missing after his arrest by Soviet forces in Hungary on January 17, 1945.

Soviet and later Russian officials have long claimed the Swede died in Soviet custody on July 17, 1947, but family members and experts have long doubted the official Soviet version of his death.

While the statements by Rödel included in the book date from before the time he shared a cell with Wallenberg, they come from the same 549-page file which contained other information about Rödel, portions of which were released to the Swedish-Russian Working Group in 1993.

Previously, the researchers were told by Russian officials that the pages they had received from the file were numbered 543-549, making Rödel's the last case detailed in the file.

However, Rödel's newly released statements carry the page numbers 477-484, leading Berger and Birstein to conclude there may be 57 more pages of material that the Russians have previously claimed did not exist and which has yet to be released to researchers.

“If the early statements made by Willy Rödel in Soviet imprisonment survived even though Russian officials have told us adamantly for two decades that they did not, we cannot help but wonder if Rödel's interrogations dating from the time he was held together with Raoul Wallenberg also continue to exist,” Berger and Birstein said in a statement released on Monday.

“Perhaps then this is the real reason why we have not been allowed to review the 57 still secret pages in this material?”

The latest revelation comes slightly more than a year after Berger and Birstein came across additional evidence indicating that the Russians have been less than forthcoming regarding what they know regarding Wallenberg's fate.

In late 2009, the researchers obtained documents suggesting that Wallenberg had indeed survived longer than the Soviets claimed.

The documents led Russian officials to concede that the missing diplomat was “with great likelihood” the same person as “Prisoner number Seven”, who was interrogated on July 23rd, 1947 – the week after Wallenberg was alleged to have died.

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In the wake of the recent release of the statements by Wallenberg's cellmate, Berger and Birstein have filed a new request with Russian officials to view the rest of the file.

“If the Rödel interrogations survive, then perhaps the Raoul Wallenberg interrogation files exist as well,” said Berger.

“We can't prove that a file for Raoul Wallenberg also exists, but the plot thickens.”

According to Berger, the Swedish government also has a responsibility to demand that Russia release the documents.

“The Working Group was blatantly lied to,” she said, recalling a 1993 meeting between Swedish and Russian officials during which time the Russians continually denied the existence of additional information about Rödel.

”The Swedish government should indeed follow up on this and request a full release of all the documentation,” she said.

“The Swedes need to explain why they aren't demanding to see these files.”

David Landes (david.landes@thelocal.se)

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10:51 August 2, 2011 by motti
For the Jews and Israel, the man Wallenberg was a real saint and his memory is sacred. I'm unsure whether Sweden deserved this man's bravery, ethics and morals. He certainly appears to have betrayed by hi own country's eleite. Shame upon them as much as that of Mother Russia.
10:57 August 2, 2011 by Streja
motti, a country's elite is not its people.

I am not surprised that the Russians have kept files secret. Not at all.
11:03 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
"The Swedes need to explain why they aren't demanding to see these files."

Yes they do, but swedes never demand anything. This man should be a Swedish Saint. The caring and grace he showed humanity could certainly be an example that is desperately needed in Sweden today. He should be perpetually written about in the news instead of wasting space on sicko hate mongering murders like BE-SICK:
11:10 August 2, 2011 by RobinHood
In other news; the Pope is a Caholic, and bears poo in the woods. Who on earth believes the Russians have been telling the truth all these years? They tortured him, and then they shot him in the back of the head; him and millions of others.

The pointless obsession with Wallenberg's mysterious and sordid death is a sad distraction from Wallenberg's magnificent life. Now there's a story worth reporting.
11:17 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ RobinHood

Bravo! Precisely and Sweden could sure use a refresher course on tolereance, empathy, fairness,kindness, justice, equality, consideration, humanity and just plain human decency. This mans life if a shining example of a life that stood for SOMETHING. He took action. He was a true hero.

He is one of their treasures and Swedish citizens need a good refresher course about what Sweden use to stand for.
11:24 August 2, 2011 by johnny1939
The Russians lying? Neeever.........
12:01 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
Swedes blaiming the Russians for everything? Never. Just ask Carl Bildt.

What Wallenberg did was outstanding but, as motti wrote, it seems he was betrayed by someone in Sweden.

Anyhow, I believe that too many years will pass until the truth about his fate is really known.

Who killed Palme? The Russians too, but of course.
12:05 August 2, 2011 by conboy
Bernadotte may have been supplying intelligence to the Swedes and in so doing awoke the ire of the Soviets in any event the man was an outstanding humanist, the pity is he is hardly mentioned in Swedish schools a big mistake considering recent events in Norway.
12:15 August 2, 2011 by Streja
conboy, when I was in school he was mentioned a lot actually. It's not like he is ignored in Sweden. But, you have reminded me. I'll make sure to use his story in a class in the autumn.

Jacqueline, he is a Swedish hero, you're right. Have you seen the excellent film with Stellan Skarsgård in the lead? Very good but heartbreaking film.
12:40 August 2, 2011 by Nemesis
Raoul Wallenberg took enourmous risks to save tens of thousands of innocent people from gas chambers. The truth needs to be told about him for that reason alone.

Stalin had numerous people killed for no other reason than merely existing. He had war heroes who held out against the nazi's behind nazi lines rounded up and shot, after the war as traitors. He ordered the entire polish officer core to be shot in the Katyn massacre, just over 22,000 people, after the combined Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland.

The problem is that the Swedish government was, is now and always will be spineless, especially regarding Russia. The truth needs to be told.
12:52 August 2, 2011 by Streja
Nem, of course the Swedish government was spineless regarding Russia and The Soviet Union! Sweden is a small country right next to Russia that was in danger of being swallowed up by them. Russia has always been the enemy of Sweden. Check Swedish history, wars against Denmark on one side and Russia on the other. You come from a country that was part of a big empire with lots of economical and military power. Remember that.
12:53 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

And the tomatoes are very cheap these days at ICA. Just keep on being a resonance box. You are good at that. I wonder what are you going to teach about Wallenberg. Hope you do not confuse him with Skarsgård.
13:00 August 2, 2011 by Streja
J. L. Belmar, it's better to be a resonance box in a beautiful instrument than a broken trumpet with spit inside.
13:02 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee

I have not seen that one. I did see the one with Liam Neilson. Poignant and heartbreaking. I will look for the Stellan Skarsgård one. I love him as an actor.
13:06 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

I can see that the tomatoes were too expensive for you. Good luck in your classes about Wallenberg. You are not even worth the spit that is in the broken trumpet. It would be a waste of spit. Besides, I could never be a broken trumpet with spit inside, because I am neither your brother and of course nor the son of Swedish mother. Good Lord! God protects me.
13:12 August 2, 2011 by Streja
J. L. Belmar, if I am not worth the spit why do you keep spouting abuse on this site?
13:18 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

I did not write "it's better to be a resonance box in a beautiful instrument than a broken trumpet with spit inside." The statement is yours and only yours, so, who is spouting abuse on this site?

Do not play the dumb Swede, you are too old for that. I only retaliate, so do not play dumb.
13:21 August 2, 2011 by Streja
Wallenberg has a monument in Stockholm, but I don't like it at all. It's ugly.
13:39 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
Only small minds are afraid of the Russians. If it had not been for them, Sweden and the rest of Europe would have been a little tiny colony of the Third Reich during WWWII. You have to include the lousy Americans, adored by the Swedes who suffer the "Mickey Mouse" syndrome, along with other European countries. Sweden is too liitle to be taken into account by Russia; too little. A very beautiful country, but too little in size and in way of thinking.

Now with the case of Wallenberg, it would be the time for Sweden to have more guts and really go deep into the story.

It is about time that we stick to the theme of this thread and stop talking about films with Liam Nielson.
15:37 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J. L. Belmar

Thank you I will bear that in mind and stick to the topic. I am very interested in this subject though, and felt watching several movies (granted, not documentaries, and of course interpereted factually) may be interesting. If you can suggest any documentaries that I am not aware of, that would be great.

You also might want to take youir own advice on the thread about clarifying the hours of fasting at Ramadan which really has nothing much to do with what you are posting about. And your Mexican joke is not only not funny, but it makes no sense either.

Before you rant at an article it is probably a good idea to read it first so you know what it is about. (Just for future reference.)
15:46 August 2, 2011 by Nemesis
@ Streja

Since 1066 my family was at the forefront of every war for that empire. Also after the crusades we hired ourselves out to a few other countries, including Sweden, Prussia, Poland, Italy, Spain, France, Russia, Austria and a few others, when Britain was not at war with someone for money and to generally pass the time, slaughtering half of Europe, just as Swedes did until getting heavily defeated in the Napoleonic wars. My family history from 1066 up to until about 1945, reads sort of like a list of wars in all of continental Europe. My ancestors were part of the people who invaded Ireland. They landed in Ireland in1171, when the real slaughter began.

Ireland may have been held under the thumb by England for centuries, but the Irish always raise every grievance and murder, even up to a few hundred years after the fact. The Irish actually got Denmark to apologise for the Viking invasions of 795 to 1169, even thought the first Viking attack in Ireland in 795, was by ethnic Norwegians. Compare that with Sweden which finds every offence to actual ethnic Swedes not to be an issue to spend resources on.

There are three things Sweden could learn from Ireland;

1. how to deal with immigration and sucessfully integrate not only very different immigrant different groups, but on occassion groups that may have actually been at war with each other and make the majority of them, into a benefit for society. Chinese, Serbs, German, Brazilian, Albanian, French, Spanish, Thai, Japanese all work and socialise with Irish natives, unlike Sweden.

2. Stand up for its citizens abroad and those who have been wronged by foreign governments. If an Irish citizen is held abroad or wronged abroad the Irish government makes significantly more effort than most other governments to get them back home or alleviate that citizens conditions.

3. How not to run an economy, banking sector, social services, education system, healthcare or any public services.
16:38 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@Jacquelinne # 20

What are you talking about? What has the Ramadan to do with the Wallenberg story? In case you do not know, an apple is an apple and a banana is simply another thing. Perhaps you like cucumbers.

Please. My joke was posted in another thread and has nothing to do with this one. If you do not like my joke indicates only one thing: you certainly lack sense of humour. Typical Swedish trait.

Start at home before you tell others what to do. You and Streja. Are you relatives, by the way? or simply, well, you know damn well what.

@ nemesis

Do not throw daisies to the oink oinks. They are "stängda i huvudet".
16:58 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J-L- Belmar

this is what I am talking about

1. "It is about time that we stick to the theme of this thread and stop talking about films with Liam Nielson." It was me talking of Liam Neilson.

2".What are you talking about? What has the Ramadan to do with the Wallenberg story?" Pointing out you should not be so accusitory of going off topic when you blatently did so yourself on the Ramadan thread...so it does actually relate. And your joke is not funny, just tasteless and racist. And I am not Swedish by the way. Not 1 drop of swedish blood actually, just so you know.

3. You might (yet again) want to take your own asvice on this one.---"

Start at home before you tell others what to do."
17:02 August 2, 2011 by procrustes

Perhaps you could teach an online course on how one can disagree without being disagreeable. Several of these bloggers need it. I can't for the life of my fathom what you wrote that called for cruel response to your innocuous comment that you were going to teach a course on the Wallengburg story.

Good luck on the course.
17:25 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@pralinee # 23

You are pathetic! Which university did you attend to be such a master in Pathetic Sciences? I truly hope none of the commentators dare to go to the same University located in Patheticland, right next from where you are from.

Yous iz pathetic! which university did yous attend to be such da masta in pathetic sciences? I fe real hope none hof da commentators dare to go to da same university located in patheticland, east side next from where yous iz from. Is it coz I is white?

And now (trumpets) WHAT????????????????????
18:35 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J. L. Belmar

I can only assume you are speaking to me as a praline ... since a praline is a yummy, sweet, french confection. However, I am only 1/3 French, but thank you very much all the same :-)

I actually got my college degree in Canada, but it was not in the field of science, rather the arts. But thanks for the interest. There we studied

a myriad of courses including generalised sciences, history, geography, physics, mathematics as well as specialized classes in the arts.

We also studied literary arts, language, writing and English in depth including advanced grammar. (Maybe you should brush up on yours a tad) I am aware of my spelling errors here (black keyboard/bad eyes) Thoughtful of you to inquire as to my education. What university did you study at by the way?

Streja and I differ in many instances in our opinions (we are not related by the way) I notice we certainly seem to rub you the wrong way. Possibly you are not use to dealing with intelligent, educated, successful women who have brains and are not too scared to use them.

Perhaps you are more comfortable speaking with those sweet ladies who do as they are told, sit in the corner, look pretty and shake their lady parts. I could do all of those things too, but fortunately my parents placed my value on using a very good mind to my benefit rather than " shakin' what my momma gave me" and marrying Billy Bob Sven in order to get by. Nothing against you, if you can not compete intellectually with an educated woman, thats ok. You stick to where you feel comfortable ;-)

Now, as you so eloquently said before, can we please get back to the topic? :-)
18:51 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

You are simply astonishing. What a C.V. Not even a Nobel Prize could brag about it. Feminists must be very proud of having such an specimen. I cannot compete with you, except that I have written nine books, three of them best-sellers, I had a son who was murdered back in my country some four years ago, I am a musician and a painter and I am considered a top worldwide journalist.

You can go, if you like, to my news website


and see what I am talking about.

Or perhaps to

www.newsondemand. com

and you will also see what I am talking about.

By the way, one of my best sellers is titled "The feminist plot". Too bad I did not know you before. You would certainly fit into one of my characters.

You, sweet pralinee, would never fit into any of my shoes. I am many numbers too big for you.


P.S. Neither you or Streja rub me in the wrong way. You simply pisses US (me and others) off.
19:51 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J.L. Belmar

Firstly-I am very sorry to hear of your son. I have children and I can not even imagine it.

I can certainly appreciate the work involved in your news website. Read quit a bit of it actually and it must require a lot of work. Their are no credits or names of journalist or webmaster etc, I was surprised about that since it is usually standard with any credible news site, especially where a top worlwide journalists are featured. Also, what books have you written? I would very much like to read them as well.

I am still unclear as to where you attended university. Please enlighten me. It may interest you to know that just because a woman is educated, intelligent and successful, she is not necessarily a militant feminist. I am not one, in particular. I am, however a Human Right-ist and that includes the rights of men, women and children. Yes, I am proud of what I have accomplished. I worked very hard, for it. To state it is just facts, not bragging.

I too have a website which I care not to share with you as I do not particularily care for you..no offense. (and not the entire male gender, I love men. I married one and have lots of great, intelligent male friends.) Looking forward to reading your books :-) and also some more on Wallenberg as well if you can suggest some good ones, since you are an author you must be well read on such things.
20:09 August 2, 2011 by guliver
As a son of kz surviovers I admire Wallenberg ,for me he is an hero,I do not talk about others but if we the Jews could not saved him or help him we never did enough for him ,we should not stop asking the Russians what did they do to that hero and saint human been.

He has an honorable memory place in Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem.

May God bless his name and his family.

20:32 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@jJacquelinee. It "I too have a website which I care not to share with you as I do not particularily care for you..no offense. why should I inform you more? It would be a waste of time. Just for your information, because I see that you do not dig anything about journalism, my newsknockout site is built around feeders, thatr is the reason they roll constantly. If you want to read one of my books, go to a Swedish library and ask for "Om Svensk Arrogans". Unfortunately you do not fit into the descriptions because you are not a Swede and I just wonder if you are something, no offense.
20:49 August 2, 2011 by gh2008
@J. L. Belmar,

i really tried to avoid your snippy thing, but....

"I am considered a top worldwide journalist"

Alfayhaa???? you better than that!
21:32 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@gh2008 At Alfayhaa I only write scripts for them. If you want to read who I am, pay for the information.

Yes gh2008.

Far much bether than Alfayhaa, which is, by the way, the second largest TVNewwork in the Middle East. I do not have space here to send you samples of CNN, Televisa, The Voice of America, El Mundo, Milenio, Radio Mil and many others, plus telling you how I managed to cover 3 wars by now. You are too liitle and too much of a nincompoop for my taste.

Now, can you tell me how is your health by now?
21:40 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J.L. Belmar

I tried to locate your book "The feminist plot". but all I could find was one written by a dead Indian woman and one on "The feminist plot and male unrination" which I am assuming is not yours.

I am assuming, by your evasiveness, that you did not attend university. Forgive me if I am wrong. There are many exceptionally intelligent men and women who did not attend university.Often times it is a pure case of lack of funds as higher education in many countries is very expensive.

I enjoy journalism and am in the process of writing a book as well, purely fiction and non political in nature. I look forward to reading your book as I have had my own initiation into Svensk Arrogans också. But there are narrow minded, bigoted, self absorbed, judgemental people in all races and demographics and I have met lovely Swedish people as well as the dough heads.

One can not judge by a preconceived notion of who an individual is, as you found out when you perceived me as stupid, non educated and basically feebleminded. I still believe if you want to be taken as a serious journalist, you really should put your name to your work (your website)

I still am interested in the learning more than what I already know about Wallenberg, so please refer me to any literature you are aware of. As I said at the beginning of the posts here...

The caring and grace Wallenberg showed humanity could certainly be an example that is desperately needed in Sweden today. He should be perpetually written about in the news.....
22:03 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

I attended two years of Law at the Universidad Nacional de México (National University of Mexico) after having made my kindergarten, Primary, Secondary and Coilege at the German School. So yes, I do speak German, English, Swedish, Spanish plus a great knowledge of Italian, French and Portuguese.

I do not want to put my name on my newsknockout, but you are giving me an idea. Why not? It has been my hobby for the past two years and I pay for the domain and the server in Dubai, so, why not?

The book you are looking for, was only published in Spanish. When I tried to publish it in Sweden, the feminist elite within the editorial houses just vetoed it, the same as a beautiful book I wrote with fables for children. You know why? Because the psicology I use is to elevated for the Swedish children's mentality. X my heart.

I would add to my CV, that I have covered 3 wars, I have won the famous International Mercury Award for the productive development and international cooperation; that I have been one of the best tennis coaches that ever came to Sweden (I still represent the Bollettieri Tennis Academy in Bradenton, Florida); that I am in 3 Long Play records with a folk group I belonged to (Los Folkloristas); that I am a professional singer and whistler and that I have enjoyed a 165 IQ if you want to talk about geniuses.

I never perceived you as stupid, but as stubborn, yes.

I wish I could help you with the Wallenberg case, but honestly, he is not as interesting to me as, let us say, as my acquaintance Vladimir Putin can be or one of the Mexican heroes, like Emiliano Zapata, or even my grandfather, who was the one who kicked out the American Army from the port of Veracruz back in 1914.

What Wallenberg is supposed to have done (there are certain doubts about that, like the famous J in the passports of the Jews or the selling of them), but that is not my business.

Other will keep on writing about him as well as of Olof Palme, the Swedish Minister who when to the States with only 300 dollars in the pocket, travelled 39 States in only 30 days and then work black in Mexico with his cousins Rene and Ramon Palme, because he did not have, neither a visa to Mexico, nor a working permit.

Do you want to read "Om Svensk Arrogans"? buy it at Bokus.

Hope you write your fiction book. Sorry, but you have the flare to write only fiction. No offense, I hope.
22:24 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J. L. Belmar

You are not the first one who has accused me of being stubborn ;-)

Well.......it seems we have come to an understanding then. I respect your expertise and look forward to reading your book actually.

I write "fiction" ...but that which was gained through experience. It is perceived as fiction rather than autobigraphical, because I want my own sadnesses to remain my own and private. So they are classified as fiction. Everyone has their own private hell they have lived though to a greater or lesser degree. writing it gets it out.

I guess you and I are pretty ok people when we are not pissed off. But passion is a good thing. Passion ignites change.
22:31 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@jacquelineee. I love intelligent people. I hate mediocre ones. Welcome! Just as a last piece of information, I am the co-owner fo an excellent news site entitled "World News on Demand". Take a look. Just write the usual www and then in one word worldnewsondemand.com

I am there the Head of the Editorial Advisory Board. Read it, because you, in one of your comments, wrote "I still believe if you want to be taken as a serious journalist, you really should put your name to your work (your website)" As a serious journalist? Jesuschrist, where have I been for the more than 60 years I have been in the ink?

I still believe if you want to be taken as a serious journalist, you really should put your name to your work (your website)

JOSE LUIS BELMAR, Head of the Editorial Advisory Board

Skilled in the arts of journalism, advertising, public relations, music, writing, and painting, José Luis Belmar is one of the most highly respected communicators in the news industry today.

He started his long-life career in the fifties when he began writing for the Mexican daily newspaper El Universal. There, Belmar created the first ever dedicated show business and movie review section, in such a creative way that his columns caused the publication's circulation to skyrocket.

Mr. Belmar has in his portfolio more than twenty-six weekly radio and television programs for XEW (The Voice of Latin America from Mexico) and Televisa (Channels 2 and 4). Producing one of the first TV Newsreel sponsored by Excelsior daily paper and Goodyear Oxo awarded him with an unprecedented recognition among peers and executives in the industry, plus a one hour daily resume for the 1968 Olympiads held in Mexico; resume that enjoyed the highest ratings at the time. In 1978, in Mexico City, Mr. Belmar was awarded with the Gold Mercury International Award, "For the productive development and international co-operation".

Since 1987, Mr. Belmar has lived in Sweden where he has represented the interests of Spanish language media conglomerates including Television Azteca, S.A., Televisa, S.A., CNN en Español, and a variety of Mexican publications and radio stations including Excelsior, the daily MILENIO newspaper, and Nucleo Radio Mil, in addition to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo.

Since the beginning of 2007, José Luis Belmar's creative magic and expertise in the challenging art of producing engaging new ideas for radio and television audiences has made him one of Television Azteca S.A.'s most valuable assets. He has produced, to date, more than 190 "four minute" television segments focusing on public interest and controversial international topics, including an especially well-received feature on famous women who have "made a difference" in the lives of others around the world.

Jose Luis Belmar is, also, an experienced lecturer on the subjects of advertising and public relations.
22:38 August 2, 2011 by motti
Belmar. It is not what Wallenberg is supposed to have done. The facts are documented and many Jews (mainly Humgarian)today owe their lives oto this incredibly brave man.

The pity is, therer were just not enough Scgindlers, Wallenbergs and others who risked their lives in trying to protect humanity, from the very worst excesses of hatred.

There are two very famous sayings written by Rabbi Hillel over two thousand years ago. I trust some of you might take on board what he said, not supposedly, but factually (not for nothing were Jews known as people of the book. While many nations were illiterate, the Jews could read and write)

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me?And if I am for myself, then what am I? And if not now, then when?"

"That which is hateful to you, do not do unto others. That is the whole Torah (Scriptures), the rest is commentary. No go and learn."

This wise sage teachings should be studied by many on this site before they spout their hatred an dignorance. Think before you write.
22:59 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@J. L. Belmar

You see? My big mouth is good for something ;-) hahah
23:06 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
"motti. some of my very best friends in my country are Jews. Ex ambassador of Israel in Sweden, Ziv Mazel, is my friend. Whatever you write, good for you, but I am in no obligation to be in accordance to what you write. I might not agree with you, but I respect the right of your opinion. He actually said: ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - O.K. I will not defend to the death your right to say what you want to say, but I respect what you say, because if you do not says such things, many would say that you only said those things to be noticed. Very few would say: "Well said, motti, well said."
23:14 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
really great site.........
23:20 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

That was said by Volta Air, the new Swedish vacuum cleaner specially developed to swallow some ot the "commentators" pullulating on this thread and in many others. Do you happen to know someone? C'ommon, do not by shy. Just give me a name, just a name.
23:39 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J. L. Belmar

I am just a lonely gal all by herself on here. I don't know a sole actually. I found The Local to better understand Swedish news...and when I started to, I was appalled by a lot of it...and when I get appalled I get vocal. That's it
23:50 August 2, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

The Local is a very good site to read and understand Swedish news, if you do not understand and read Swedish, but if you do, start reading Dagens Nyheter or Svenska Dagbladet. They are not like the to tabloids Expressen of Aftonbladet. They are, more or less serious.

You are not alone. Now you have someone you can count with: me. It does not matter if we have different opinions once in a while, but I promise that you can count with me.

i hate to see an intelligent human being feeling lonely, but jacqueline, everything is in a state of mind.

Every morning, when you fix your self in front of the mirror, just say: Good Lord!, Thanks for letting me see the Sun one more day and for letting me enjoy the day. It makes miracles.

Cheer up!
00:02 August 3, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ J.L

Thanks... That was you with the hospital thin? I read that a while ago and (as usual) was disgusted. I have had my own medical nightmares here, let me tell you. Although not as bad as you. Anyway...nice to have our debate resolved and really glad you are feeling better :-)
00:09 August 3, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@JACQUELINEE. You see? Now in capital letters. You are improving, ha, ha. :)

I am going to relax now. Tomorrow, the Sun will shine for you, for me and for the beautiful people who cares about others. You will see.

Hope I meet you in another thread. I will. I am completely sure about that and let me think about a way that I can help you the best way I can. Pleasent dreams. I hope it is not too late where you live here in Sweden.
00:14 August 3, 2011 by jacquelinee
you might want to check new friends on a social site ;-)
00:20 August 3, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
??? I just declared myself as an antisocial. I cleaned my list of some so-called "friends" and decided to have only those who care about me the way I have cared about them. Which social site?
08:03 August 3, 2011 by Learner2011
@Nemesis #21

"There are three things Sweden could learn from Ireland"

Let's speak honestly and be frank about that:

1- Integration... Come on... that is really a big one and very hard to believe. Percentage of extreme racism in Ireland is the worst ever, almost all immigrants there were told on the face and openly that Ireland is a "Christian celtic" state and you are not welcome here. Well Nemesis, if you define Integration as sitting inside Irish pub and people from different colors and backgrounds are having drinks there, then yeah I agree that is a good integration.

2- "Stand up for its citizens": Don't tell me Ireland is doing a better job than any west European country. Why they didn't stand up impressively for Jennifer Guinness,Ben Dunne and Brian Keenan?
14:13 August 3, 2011 by cogito
@ J.L. Belmar #34: "Wallenberg is supposed to have done (there are certain doubts about that, like the famous J in the passports of the Jews or the selling of them)...."

When I first heard this, I dismissed W selling the passports as an urban legend. But then when you realize how often Sweden censors any negatives about its history and heroes.....
15:32 August 3, 2011 by J. L. Belmar

Where have you heard or read that Olof Palme was in Mexico working illegaly with his cousins René and Ramón? And that, @cogito, is a fact.

He did not have neither a passport nor a working permit to work at their hardware store "Ferretería Palme", located in the Cuauhtémoc Avenue in Mexico City.

Furthermore, where have you read or heard an analysis that Palme could have never in his life travel through 39 United States states in 90 days with only 300 dollars in his pocket?

So, do not dismiss the "rumours" about the selling of the passports at all.
17:13 August 3, 2011 by sirleonard
The Russians have lived in a riddle inside a mystery wrapped in an enigma -a land based on lies- so long that if the truth hit them in the face they would not recognise it.
20:29 August 3, 2011 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Hold your fire!

It's time for history's super-sleuth Trowbridge H Ford to come stepping in.....
01:48 August 4, 2011 by Gamla Hälsingebock

Since when did all the "flaming", insults and trolls move to this part of the Local?

The discussion board is a dead zone compared to here!
09:47 August 4, 2011 by cogito
@ Cornelius: It's because a bunch of bullies over there drove out the 82-year-old Trow.

@Gamla H: Right. It is boring over there because the discussion board dislikes discussion.

Anyone disagreeing with the prevailing orthodoxy gets a bucket of bile rather than reasoned counter-argument. The more interesting posters left.
10:26 August 4, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
O.K. Wallenberg was a hero but not his relatives who took advantage of their relations with the Nazis to make all the money they could.

Raoul Wallenberg deserves to be recognized more all over the world, because he is a symbol of a human being achieving almost an impossible task at that time.

End of discussion.
15:13 August 4, 2011 by cogito
End of discussion? Because you say so?

Someone get to you Belmar?
02:37 August 5, 2011 by Coalbanks
1066? Latecomer. My ancestors killed & ate the last Neanderthaler. As for the USSR failing to tell the truth - why should they? They had fought a terrible war against the Germans who had recieved material aid & volunteers from Sweden. So their treatment of RW was not exactly unwarranted.
12:24 August 5, 2011 by motti
Belmar, I trust that the story of Wallenberg will not end the discussion.

We read and hear the word "Hero" which includes footballers, pop singers etc. Wallenberg was a true hero, as were others who put their life on the line to save people from a real genocide.

This man's history needs to be part of Swedish history lessons (if it is not already). Something to be proud of. I am aware that many of his family and the Swedish establishment thought W to be an embarassment. That is their problem to be faced. Better to learn of this man's extraordinary heroics than to learn of Sweden's role as a so called neutral and the gross profiteering of Swedish manufacturers during the war.

Are you and Jacquilenee getting it on now? lol! Actualy Belmar, my own friends are Jews, Christian, Moslem, Sikh and Hindu. So I am unsure what you were trying to prove. I don't want anyone to fight for the right for me to speak my mind. However, it is a sad day when supposed democracies are not prepared to present both sides of the coin. Even more so, when real facts and news which contradict the official lines are censored. That is called brainwashing. This is something your neighbour suffers from in a very bad way. Ask Mr Gerstenfield, I am sure your Israeli ambassador friend knows of him.

I am pleased to say that I have personally met people like Netanyahu, Begin (a real mensch), Dayan, Geula Cohen Dan meridor etc etc etc. So have a happy day
13:54 August 5, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
12:24 August 5, 2011 by motti # 58

It ends for those "bright people" who only want to discuss around stupidities, mine or theirs and that is tiring.

I suggest you to go to


and read one of the most complet description of what happened with Raoul Wallenberg.

Yes. Jacquelinee and I are more or less in good terms, at least, until she writes something that I do not buy.
22:07 August 5, 2011 by McChatter
This is not really news. Read "My Testimony" by Anatoly Marchenko. published in 1989.

But typical Swedish. Don't discuss touchy issues in public. Don't forget - "en svensk tiger". Even today.
15:54 August 26, 2011 by Observant
Good God is this Local Comments box becoming an issue for slander, tit for tats and other inuendo against all those who painstakingly make a comment on related articles..

Come on people grow up and act like the adult human beings you are and not like children all the time.

The RW issue has to be sorted out as soon as possible but Sweden has no backbone to stand up to the Russians or Germans for that matter. The Swedish view is that RW is history and it will not bring the poor guy back if investigations into his disappearance in 1940's - 1950's continue. The Swedes believe that it will embarrass the Russians with all the questions.

Well hell to the Russians and any embarrassment it might or might not cause. SWEDEN MUST DEMAND THE TRUTH ON RAOUL WALLENBERG's DISAPPEARANCE.
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