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No money for abused foster kids: minister

TT/The Local/cg · 10 Sep 2011, 10:49

Published: 10 Sep 2011 10:49 GMT+02:00

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With this, the government is going against a suggestion made by an earlier inquiry.

Earlier this year, the inquiry suggested that the thousands placed in foster homes during the 1900s ought to receive a public apology as well as compensation.

The government's investigator Kerstin Wigzell suggested that every person exposed to "abuse of neglect of a severe nature" should get 250,000 kronor ($38,000) in compensation.

No money will be given to those affected, however, according to Maria Larsson, minister for children and elderly. The government's explanation for this is that it would be impossible to hand out compensations to those exposed to maltreatment in a fair and legally secure manner.

Instead, the minister has promised that the foster care children will be receiving an apology from the state.

"I've understood that it's very important for many that such a ceremony occurs. The government has decided to hold a ceremony, and invitations will be sent out shortly," Larsson told TT.

Another of the government's arguments for not giving economic reimbursement is that such a compensation would only cover those exposed to maltreatment during the years 1920-1980.

"It covers a very long period of time. And we know that people and groups in Sweden have been maltreated during this period, making it hard to favour one group," she said.

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Drawing the limit for remuneration at 1980 would mean discriminating those exposed to maltreatment at a later date.

"That could mean that a young person exposed to maltreatment in 1983 doesn't receive the compensation as a person exposed to the same thing in 1953," said Larsson.

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12:08 September 10, 2011 by Addendum
No accountability. No responsibility. No accountability. No responsibility. No accountability. No responsibility. No accountability. No responsibility. Broken record, infininty...
12:29 September 10, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ Addendum


Maria Larsson - Swedish Mister of health for Children and the Elderly. What exactly does she do to ensure their safe and healthy care? F--- All. Maybe if they fire her and the other dead weight in the "Sociallyrestin" they would have the funds to provide decent health care for the aged and decent foster care for the children. But.... I know, I know. "This is how we do things in Sweden" About the only way to actually get fired would be to download a song, or save the life of a hedgehog.
12:36 September 10, 2011 by Frank Arbach
....seems like a typical Swedish response... something wrong? Well it certainly is not the 'system' it must be YOU. Tough!!
16:03 September 10, 2011 by JulieLou40
What an absolute arse of a woman. She should not be in the job.
16:22 September 10, 2011 by jacquelinee
@Sigmund Freud

This will answer your question. This has been just since July.

One 100 year-old woman had her own fist shoved into her mouth. An 85 year-old had white crawling larvae in her infected sores. A sick elderly man received a wrong dosage of insulin.

other patients were slapped and pinched. Another woman, 100 years of age at the time, was subjected to her own fist being shoved in her mouth. Local authorities in Norrköping have elected not to report two assistant nurses suspected of maltreating elderly patients at a nursing home to the police,

"Last Tuesday Granny turned 101. The whole family was gathered to celebrate her birthday, and when my mother's husband leaned towards her, she said 'don't hit me, don't hit me'. That makes you wonder what kind of treatment she's been subjected to," said the woman's grandchild

When a patient protested against the nurse's painfully hard grip, the nurse responded "don't touch me with your disgusting fingers," and "you're lying where you are, and I'd like to see you try to catch up with me

The other nurse slapped a patient hard on the behind, pinched her stomach and shook her breasts, and pressed another patient's fist into her mouth.

Two employees were betting on when a patient would die while he was lying there dying and after he passed away put sunglasses on him and laughed.


"Generally speaking our geriatric care in Sweden is good. Of course, there are flaws and singular cases, and that's why we need to be open, in order to discover and prevent these," said Larsson.!

I myself have sent emails to the authorities responsible for thess disgusting stories as well as over 50 news agencies worldwide including the New York Times. I have sent the email to the OECD (Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) that has ranked Sweden in the top 5 for elderly care.


"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." - A. Einstein



socialkontoret@norrkoping.se -Britt-Marie Persson

norrkoping.kommun@norrkoping.se - Lars Karlsson

http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/7545 - Maria Larsson



Thank you for being the voice of those who can not. PLEASE READ THIS AND RESPOND. Copy and paste links as they disappear quickly.
16:24 September 10, 2011 by Nemesis
Maria Larsson should be banned from being within ten kilometers of an child for the rest of her life. She reads like she is getting advice from the Catholic Church on child welfare.

This is a repeat of what happened to the Sammi. Each Sami had to fight a court case for compensation after the government sterilised tens of thousands of them. On the rare occassion any of them did win they get a very small compensation.
16:40 September 10, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ Nemesis

That is just a horrific disgrace!
19:53 September 10, 2011 by Tysknaden
This is a problem in Sweden: In this country - very often - you can find people in high positions, who would have to clean the dishes in other countries.
20:26 September 10, 2011 by Addendum
What has become of the people who inflicted the "abuse of neglect of a severe nature"?

Also, isn't Maria Larsson cited as a central player in holding young Dominic Johansson as a "prisoner" of the Swedish state? Dominic's mother is an Indian citizen, but when the family (Indian mother and Swedish father) decided to move to India, Swedish police boarded the plane and forecfully took Dominic from his parents TWO years ago, so he could be put in Swedish foster care and educated by the Swedish state, saying they're doing this to protect the child's right to education in Sweden. (...to my understanding.)

The parents have been fighting to get their son ever since. There are no abuse charges. There is no plan to return Dominic. His foster mother has told him that she's going to keep him, and he'll never go back to his real parents... Does anyone know more of this story? What's going on? It seems like a hellish nightmare. The Swedish courts are dragging things out for years. The child's poor mother has apparently been in and out of the hospital now, as her health is being destroyed by the hell of having her child kept from her. Is the state going to apologize to her as well at their "ceremony"?

What kind of arrogant monsters steal people's children? (And sterilization? And the original DN article also mentioned compensation paid to people who the state lobotomized (around 4500 people?, 1/7 of whom died? - SvD.)

The Fromm quote describes authority in Sweden. Unchecked with no accountability. What kind of welfare is Maria Larsson providing for children and elderly?? It's cruel and heartless. Society's most vulnurable members need humanitarians who fight for them tooth and nail, heart and soul, NOT politicians who feed them to monsters.
20:26 September 10, 2011 by skumdum
This is not a political issue. If you had bad foster parents then sue them but don't expect the government to give you money.
22:18 September 10, 2011 by Abe L
I don't see why they should be receiving any reimbursement from the state. Their foster parents that abused them should be paying for any damage caused. And given that an abused child generally suffers from it their entire life, they should be forced to fork out a healthy amount of cash.

Again, why is this a big deal?
22:20 September 10, 2011 by skumdum

Do you have an opinion or a position on the topic or do you just do personal attacks and hate speech?
23:20 September 10, 2011 by Addendum
Foster parents were (are?) possibly considered state employees, and so it becomes the state's responsibility to ensure that its employees are not physically or mentally abusing children in its care.

I also have to wonder about the translation "foster homes" because while some children may have been in private homes, I've noticed online stories that reference state homes for children, orphanages? The article leaves lots of questions, and I don't know enough about this history to fill in the blanks.

Rough translation of what one adult (self-identified, former foster child) wrote regarding Larsson's announcement:

"...a huge loss of prestige for the Social Democrats who were the ones who introduced these horrible concentration camps!

I can not, with the best will in the world, call them anything else because we were exposed to the same thing as the Jews under Hitler. Our torturers, butchers, pedophiles, "researchers", murderers, etc. called the Socialist Workers Party!

The opinion I and many of my friends have is that the present Government should be able to do lots of strategy and policy, plus score against the Mafia Left by dropping all the bureaucracy and just outright pay 350-500000 for the few of us who are still alive..." (dn.se/nyheter/sverige/inga-pengar-at-fosterhemsbarn)

Based on this person's experience, I'm guessing these were f*cked up places for lots of children...
23:28 September 10, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ skumdum @ Abe L

Here is a link explaining different aspects of the foster care system. It is penned by Swedes and is a legitimate, impartial look at Foster care in Sweden. Both Social Service appointed foster care and private foster care (who report to social services) are directly accountable to departments within the Swedish Government. Therefore, the government ultimately is responsible.


Also here is a another link, penned by a Swedish lawyer. Although the title of the link sounds strange , it is a look at some individual cases.


Abe.... I don't know if you were abused or raped, or lost within a Government Foster Care system, but I think if you had, you might have some empathy and understanding. No child should be left with no options and no rights and that poor excuse for a government official Maria Larsson, who was entrusted with the rights and care of children and the elderly should be ashamed right along with the government. She is not that young and I hope they put her sorry A-s in a Swedish Death(care) home so, as the Rolling Stones say in one of their songs, "She can get her fair share of abuse."
09:33 September 11, 2011 by RobinHood
Why not deal with it on a case by case basis. If the state has been negligent and a child has suffered damage, the state should pay an appropriate amount in damages. If a child has suffered damage and the state has not been negligent, then the state should have no liability.

Most countries use their independant legal systems to process these kind of cases.
10:16 September 11, 2011 by Abe L

I completely agree that every kid needs to be protected and reimbursed for damage caused by their abusing foster parents. Irregardless of wether the government has the ultimate responsibility, the money is to be gotten from the abusing foster parents. Not from the government. Sell their house and other assets and seize their income so they have nothing left but the bare minimum, until the kid has been appropriately reimbursed.
14:02 September 11, 2011 by Streja
Abe, I disagree. The state is responsible for putting them in homes without checking if the homes were good or not. The state should pay the victims.
01:27 September 12, 2011 by esvahnt
i think she would run to give to give money for any pro lmmigration program

but when it comes for her own people ,then she have many important reasons not to give it
12:09 September 12, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ esvahnt

Get off your high horse. That is just bunk!

You give Maria Larsson way too much credit. If that was the case, she would be throwing buckets of money towards that poor old lady from the Ukraine, who's entire family emmigrated to Sweden. She is here with her family who are caring for her, NOT the State, and she has dementia and incapable of caring for herself. All her family want is for her to have permanent residency so her family can care for her. She is over 90, so even if they could not care for her (which is NOT the case) she will not be aroung long enough to put a stain on the Swedish economy. She has no family or place to live in the Ukraine, but the good old Swedish government lemmings, incapable of individual thought processing, are just following the guidelines and are going to ship her back there to die on the street.

No, it appears as long as Maria Larsson is getting her nice big salary, who gives a "SKIT" about the poor abused children and elderly from ANY demographic! Just give them your lovely Larsson smile and standard, generic, broken record, insincere, Swedish Government statement " It is a very unfortunate situation, and we are looking into it." Then hire a group of your friends and collegues and pay some exhorbitant abount to have a few "think tanks" on the subject (at will amount to nothing.) and wait it out, until it is out of the public eye, and then forget about it.

No ESVAHNT, it sure appears she won't be helping the immigrants or the Swedes with financial support, but she sure will not be opposed to helping herself though, she deserves it after all doesn't she? She is SO busy protecting the people she was entrusted to, isn't she?
19:09 September 12, 2011 by nolikegohome
pls resign your post ms minister, u r not fit to be a minister. period.
02:55 September 15, 2011 by stoogefest
"The other nurse slapped a patient hard on the behind, pinched her stomach and shook her breasts, and pressed another patient's fist into her mouth"

Hahahaha some weird fetishists you got there :D
00:53 September 16, 2011 by esvahnt

of course that 90 year old deserve all the care she needs be it from the state or her own family

about the abuse with elderly

nobody care to control it . the biggest cruelty can be comitted against them they are just so defenseless they dont have the muscle power to defend and the cowards enjoy abusing of them

that is the word :"enjoy "

they also boast about it
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