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Uni's 'bad advice' costs student grad degree

10 Apr 2012, 15:53

Published: 10 Apr 2012 15:53 GMT+02:00

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"I could lose my job," Eliana Velez told The Local.

Velez, a US-native, completed coursework for a master's degree in Media and Communication Studies at Uppsala University in October and immediately began hunting for a job.

During the process, she filed paperwork with the university so she could have her degree issued in time to present to any new employer that saw fit to hire her.

After weeks of sending out job applications, Velez eventually landed what she called the "perfect job" working as a communications manager for an organization in the United States.

"It was really what I had studied to do," she said.

Velez moved back to the United States to start work in early March, and shortly thereafter sent another reminder to her department at Uppsala University inquiring as to the status of her diploma.

"I contacted the department on March 15th and was told it would be ready the next day," she said.

When a week passed and she had still not received anything, Velez made yet another inquiry via email.

The response, sent by Director of Studies Göran Svensson, left Velez stunned.

"Sorry to say, you cannot graduate," he wrote in an email.

Svensson went on to explain that Velez's inability to receive her diploma was apparently due to a misunderstanding about which courses could be included in her course of study.

After having twice failed a required quantitative methods class, Velez asked a student advisor about what other courses she might be able to take instead.

She was told that she could take several different courses, including some undergraduate level courses, all of which would allow her to gain the number of credits she needed to graduate.

As one of the undergraduate courses, Media Policy and Regulation, was the next course due to start, Velez signed up in the hope that she would still be able to complete her course of study by the autumn of 2011.

"It was a very relevant course," she said.

But what the advisor failed to mention and what Velez failed to realize, is that she had already taken the maximum number of undergraduate-level courses allowed.

"They never told me that I wasn't allowed to take any more undergraduate-level courses," she said.

"I wouldn't have taken the course if I had known."

According to Velez, the department and the student advisor failed in clearly communicating what the programme requirements were.

"It cannot be assumed that I would have known exactly how the Swedish system works," Velez explained in an email to the department, adding that the student advisor in question shouldn't have given what turned out to be bad advice.

Writing to Svensson in the wake of learning that her two year studying sojourn in Sweden had left her without a diploma, Velez explained that she had "lost all trust" in the department following the episode.

"You cannot expect foreign students to remember all the details included in one presentation you held at the beginning of the year. That is an unrealistic expectation," she wrote.

While Svensson admitted that he and his colleagues "failed to inform" Velez that her last course needed to be a graduate-level course, he added that keeping track of a student's course of studies is a "shared responsibility".

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"You did not follow the suggested plan of study," he wrote in an email.

"For a student that does not follow the suggested path of studies it is of extra importance that the school and the student keep track over performance and requirements."

Svensson, who was unavailable to speak on the matter with The Local, added that he would write a letter to Velez's employer explaining the problem and vowed to work with her to "find a solution".

Meanwhile, Velez's future in her new job hangs in the balance, and her confidence in how Swedish universities treat foreign students remains shaken.

"I'm really upset and really frustrated," she said.

"I had a really good feeling about having studied in Sweden, but something needs to be done."

David Landes


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17:00 April 10, 2012 by StockholmSam
At a time when Swedish universities have become completely unattractive to foreign students due to the new fee structure and yet desire to attract more foreign students who can pay the fees, the Director of Studies Göran Svensson sure doesn't seem to understand how important public relations is right now for marketing Swedish Unis to the US and other western countries. In fact, it is rather shocking that he would make such a blatant PR blunder as this. In the end, they will find a solution and the degree will be granted, so in the media he needs to focus on solving the problem rather on blaming the student for botching the rules.
17:01 April 10, 2012 by Iraniboy
Any flexibility comes at a price. In most Swedish universities you can basically take any course you like but do they lead to a degree?!! It is very clear that following a different path such as studying undergraduate courses may come at a certain price otherwise one could only study just undergraduate courses to get a Master degree!!! The bottom line is if you deviate from the normal routine it's fine but it's you who should dig into the rules not others!
17:06 April 10, 2012 by foxpur
Since it was based on the school giving her invalid information, it is not her fault in any way. She asked the coreect question to gather the proer information. Therefor, it is the fault of the School to correct the result, saying she was responsible for their mistake is just the school trying to avoid the blame they deserve.
17:29 April 10, 2012 by Iraniboy
I do not see any false or invalid information regarding her problem. The only wrong information seems to be the 'estimate time for getting degree'. Obviously this 'estimate time of application processing' applies if you are eligible for the degree. So even this will not bring any liability for the university.
17:45 April 10, 2012 by sweedy82
She can just take a master's course by distance whilst studying...her employer should be understanding in this regard.
18:08 April 10, 2012 by piu-sweden
sweden is a communist country and people have no initiatives, particularly the ones work for the state organization. they simply wont care about your well+beings...
18:13 April 10, 2012 by Opinionfool
Oh so she flunked a mandatory module and tried to get around by substituting other ones instead. Sure the adviser appears to have given inaccurate advice but the real problem is with her Velez failing that quantitative methods module twice. She's just looking for a scapegoat to blame her own failure on.
18:20 April 10, 2012 by CharlieStockholm
If I were getting a master's degree, I think I'd take master level courses. She couldn't pass and now doesn't have a degree. She took over the max UNDERgrad courses instead and now says the uni is at fault. Give me a break! You know what you're trying to get away with, Velez; no master student is that naïve.
18:54 April 10, 2012 by dizzy09
I feel sorry for the young lady. I think this is a problem with a lot of swedes especially professionals, they will never tell you they do not know. you sometimes have to find out things on your own after making a couple of mistakes.this has been my experience and those of friends. it is like there is something shameful about not knowing everything here. I am not trying to bash swedes here like i said this based on my experiences and those of friends.
19:25 April 10, 2012 by StockholmSam
I cannot see the logic in blaming the student for this error. Yes, she should read the rules and follow them, but we all know that rules are not always clear and so we go to the "experts" whose job it is to really know the ins and outs of the rules in order to get advice. This is exactly what she did. The student advisor, who by the way gets paid to advise students, screwed up and that is as clear as it gets. The school is liable. The obvious solution is for the school to allow her to take a course online or at a university local to her PAID FOR BY UPPSALA in order to fulfill the missing criteria. She paid a lot of money for that degree, if not in school fees then in living expenses, and as I see it the school did not do right by her.
19:44 April 10, 2012 by Douglas Garner
I agree with #5 Sweedy and some of the rest of you in one way or another.

The univ degree system does not work like it does in the States, therefore it is important to get academic advice. It is a shame that the advice she received was not reliable, but this can happen anywhere. In anycase, she will need to fullfill the requirments via distance, independent, or an agreed upon local equivilent course.

Unless her new employer is already disatisfied with her capability, they should go along with this, as should Uppsalla.
20:17 April 10, 2012 by DiegoP
I think they are making a huge deal out of a simple misunderstanding. The guys from Uppsala realised their mistake and will try to solve the problem by approaching the company. The company will probably understand.

Is this misunderstanding worth this much coverage?

It isn't, and the worst thing is I am here, wasting my time commenting. Damn.
20:26 April 10, 2012 by muscle

Agreed that this is a simple mistake, but this is not just the mistake that happened with this lady. Many times you go to the representatives of different organizations in Sweden, and they give you different information. The employees, such as this advisor, should realise the importance of their advices and the importance of their position.

If you go to a bank to get some information, you get different information from different employees of the same bank!, Like wise, just go to any housing agency and you will get misleading information!

This highlights the carelessness played by these organizations in training the employees
20:27 April 10, 2012 by entry
Hopefully the US firm has time to realize that this person who had signed up for classes and perhaps sat in the actual classrooms for the prescribed term cannot take care of the details in her own life. No sympathy here.
20:46 April 10, 2012 by Jeff10
She twice failed the toughest course (quantitative) and still wants the degree. Good thing her employer found in time to not hire this obvious affirmative action, ostensible grad student. This is what you get with affirmative action ("AA").

Unqualified students are admitted into courses of study way beyond their intellectual ability and then when they can't cut the mustard, they want even more AA; here the substituion of easier, undergrad courses for the more intellectually demanding grad course. The more AA being a lower standard in order to get a degree they otherwise haven't earned based upon performance. How can Uppasala give a graduate degree to one who can't pass graduate courses?

21:38 April 10, 2012 by StockholmSam

I see your point and it is a problem throughout modern academia. However, that is not the point of this situation. She got bad advice from someone who was charged with giving her good advice. She took the advice and is now in a predicament. The school had a duty to inform her properly when she asked. They failed. They are liable. And as Muscle pointed out, this failure is endemic to Swedish organisations.
22:34 April 10, 2012 by surprised
i have a mixed reaction towards the situation. I think, both the parties are to be blamed in this case. The student should know which programs to take and while discussing with the student advisor she should have mentioned how many undergrad courses she had already completed; again the school is responsible as they didnt provide proper training to the student advisor who without knowing the background of the student advised on courses...

very sad but also funny...SWEDEN !!!

22:46 April 10, 2012 by Jeff10
@Stockhold Sam:

Of course, you're right and I did go a bit off of topic, but my point is this: When schools admit students of questionable academic or intellectual skills, then these types of situations invariably will occur, because of the additional administration (here, finding other, less demanding courses to replace the student's double failure in the more demanding grad course) required to shepard through the process such unqualified students.

This is so common in the US. So many AA students get through law and, yes, medical schools by taking easier courses and receiving inflated grading from profs sympathetic to such students (the most famous such student being the current POTUS). They might eventually receive a degree, but then the failure rate for them in passing lawyer (i.e., BAR exams) and medical (Med board exams) licensing tests is very, very high and some never pass.

So, then what happens? Well, some petition, claiming that such tests are biased against such AA students.

Double sheesh.
00:30 April 11, 2012 by Remyha
Jeff, I feel that I must comment on your comments. First, how and when have you decided that this particular student has questionable skills? Sometimes students fail subjects. That does not make them questionable students by any stretch. It just means they need help, like every other person walking this earth. It is not easy getting into grad school especially in another country coming from the U.S. Competition is fierce and departmental budgets at the graduate school level are generally small. I am working with a professor at Uppsala on my dissertation committee (I am a TA), and they accept about 3 to 4 students out of an applicant pool of 50. So, to get there, her work must have qualified her for something.

Now as to your comments about African Americans. That is the most grossly exaggerated use of generalizations that I have ever seen. It is unbelievable that you think African American are taking easier courses and given inflated grades because they are African America. I can assure you that none of the African Americans in my class or at my university receive such privilege. And if you believe you have encountered that personally, then I encourage you to file a complaint with an ethics committee. Are you willing to go on record and state that any type of success that African Americans have is not based on their merits? How can you even begin to support that claim. Yes, there is affirmative action, but a). It is not only for the placement of blacks in certain programs but all minorities including women who were traditionally barred from any type of advancement, and b). Obviously there was a precedent set that required affirmative action to be in place. I emphatically resent the implication that African Americans do nothing but get by and get help. That is crap. Just like it would be gross ignorance for me to assert that all white people, Asians, Hispanics, etc...are a certain way based on some foolish stereotype that I ignorantly proclaimed, it is equally ignorant for you to make such statements about millions of people whom you can't possibly know. The African Americans I know work for what they get. And FYI, I know a lot of white, Asians, Hispanics, and any other ethnicity you want to name, who sit on their behinds and do nothing just as there are some who work for what they want. I am an African American. I did not take easier courses. I did not get any handouts. I maintained a perfect grade point average by doing the work. And I got into a good undergraduate and graduate school by doing the work. I don't have any loans, nor am I in any debt. I am proof that your entire argument is fundamentally invalid.

Furthermore, what you had to say was so far off topic that it was comical. You want to hate all black people? Fine. That is your prerogative to do so. But in the case of this young lady, who does not appear to be African American at all if that is her picture, it has nothing to do with this article.
01:08 April 11, 2012 by Pakistani_Student
I feel sad for the poor student, but let us look at the picture from both sides before making an opinion on the issue.

Firstly, student should have known what is required for her to get degree and normally this information is available all the time on the degree page of university website. And obviously, if you keep contact with other students, you discuss these things and most probably, everyone knows what is required of him/her to get the degree. I mean this is the first information which a student must be crystal clear of regarding the degree.

Secondly, yes, a program coordinator is responsible for telling the students about the requirements and arranging meetings or seminars for each semester courses information and degree information. Normally at the start of semester, program coordinators have to send this information to the related students.

Having said that, I think this incident happened due to a combination of lack of seriousness on the part of student and lack of competence on the part of program coordinator or any other program responsible.

And btw, why would someone choose undergraduate courses when he/she is in a masters program , i mean if you are really there to learn then you go for higher and more advanced levels...

Anyway, a sad incident ...
07:45 April 11, 2012 by Happy Expat
Could have been much worse. Like me, she could have taken a Swedish surgeon's advice and ended up an invalid.

At least she only has Uppsala to deal with - I got Försäkringskassan.
08:25 April 11, 2012 by DiegoP

True, but incompetent employees are found all around the world. It´s up to Uppsala University to adress this issue, and rethink the way they appoint these advisors or their training.

Still I think these sort of things happens everywhere, and in this case I don´t think the situation is irreversible. And I still think this doesn´t deserve this much attention, and I still think I shouldn´t be commenting this further :P
09:11 April 11, 2012 by flintis
She's an American so she'll probably sue the Uni & live happily ever after on the proceeds
09:18 April 11, 2012 by J Jack
The old Swedish back out excuse: It was a miss understanding. How many times I've heard that.
09:47 April 11, 2012 by GBGcommuter
Are you Kidding me? The ultimate responsible for her studies it's her! How many times did I get wrong information from my academic advisers in my academic life? many, probably dozens, but I knew it was MY responsibility to make sure the infomation was accurate. Its just lame excuses and its really scary to me that so many people accept these idiotic excuses.
10:08 April 11, 2012 by Puffin
She thought she could substitute a Bachelors course for a core Master's module on research methods and still get awarded a Masters Degree?? Can you really expect a Masters if you repeatedly fail the methods course? Talk about expectations of dumbing down

She should have consulted her programme handbook (usually given out at registration) or checked online on the Student Portal where the core and electives are stated - but the norm is that you must take the core modules at Masters level if you want to get the degree.
11:02 April 11, 2012 by Opinionfool

"Jeff, I feel that I must comment on your comments."

Remyha, I;'m not Jeff but "I feel I must comment on your comment" to comments. Especially this opening line

""First, how and when have you decided that this particular student has questionable skills?"

Well let's see. By her own admission Eliana Velez failed the mandatory quantitative module of her degree course twice. Clear evidence of questionable skills there. That would be enough.

However, the real killer for any employer is that, as a post graduate student, she fails to deal with complex material and the scheduling of them to achieve the desired goal --- a Masters degree.

The evidence is clear. So the decision is trivial to make.
11:11 April 11, 2012 by strixy
Eliana requested information from a person that is paid for giving such advice to students! The advice was wrong. How can this be Eliana's mistake then?

Whether she followed the suggested path or not is irrelevant. What s relevant is that the advice given was clearly wrong. Suggested does not mean mandatory anyway.

Time to get over his big ego and admit a mistake. Sadly, not an attitude commonly seen here in Scandinavia.
11:32 April 11, 2012 by entry
We are not just talking about anyone here. This women Aided in several photo-shoots, for Europa Newswire and has Managed and motivated the ticket selling teams in the recent past.

@strixy, "Eliana requested information from a person that is paid for giving such advice to students! "

That is a claim made by the finger painter of this article here at thelocal.se without any apparent confirmation from the university.

Incompetence should not be rewarded with a Masters Degree.
12:20 April 11, 2012 by Montana
As someone who is familiar (professionally) with the employee named in this article, let me just say that students will rarely find a person who is more committed to their well-being and academic progress. What has happened in this case is unfortunate, and every effort is being made to rectify the situation, but it has nothing to do with a lack of professionalism or hard work on the part of Göran Svensson. Quite the contrary. He has helped and guided thousands of students through the department over the years, and so it is quite ironic that he is singled out in this way. Satisfied students are not really "news," of course, so we need to bear in mind that what has happened in this case is an extremely rare exception.
13:43 April 11, 2012 by Opinionfool

"we need to bear in mind that what has happened in this case is an extremely rare exception." Yes indeed, And a case that starts with the student failing their quantitative methods class TWICE. That was the moment to re-evaluate whether this was an appropriate course for her. Indeed after the first time she FAILED would have been a suitable moment for that too.

Attendance at lectures is not the measure of whether the student has passed the course, the metric is did they get the minimum mark in the examination or courseworks. She did NOT. She failed. She failed twice.

If her degree is to mean anything, if the other degrees awarded by Uppsala University then she (and only she) has to accept responsibility for her failure. Bitching afterwards that she would not have done the course in the first place is too late. Do the study, pass the exams, get the degree. If *she* makes a mistake and takes modules that do not give her high enough grades. Tough it's her problem and her problem alone.
15:27 April 11, 2012 by strixy
@entry, have you ever been to uni at all?

'suggested path' means nothing more but the 'general, common and safe' path. by no means is it mandatory! If someone wants to specialise in a certain field (for example), they are more than welcome to divert from the 'suggested path' and tailor their studies so they the program fits their needs.

American student might have not found courses related onlyt o Swedish reality particularly useful so she was welcome to choose something else. She requested information from a student advisor (someone who is apid for giving advice to students) and was failed.
17:44 April 11, 2012 by Opinionfool
The headlone here says "Uni's 'bad advice' costs student grad degree". But has it? Eliana Velez has said not having the certificate at this moment in time might cost her her job. But has this cost her the degree? If she could find and pass --- let's not forget she has to do that --- modules that would be eligible for inclusion on the certificate would she be stopped from returning to Uppsala and formally completing the course? Well other than her own inertia at not wanting to come back to Sweden that is.
22:31 April 12, 2012 by Max Reaver
FU TheLocal, I wrote some words in capital letters then you rejected my comments, all my text got lost so I have to write again...
22:48 April 12, 2012 by Jeff10
@ Opinionfool (IRO your post # 27):

Thank you; I couldn't have written a better, more succinct defense of myself.
00:16 April 13, 2012 by Max Reaver
I dont think any of you have tried to pursue a masters degree at Uppsala University. If not, then you don't understand the system. Which in turn makes your comment as meaningless as the sound of a flat tire.

I know many many students at Uppsala. Because, well, I'm doing a masters degree there. Quite a few of them have not be able to get their degree certificate on time. They have not failed courses or anything, but the system has its traps that students sometimes cant evade.

Take information for example. @Pakistani_Student, the information is NOT always on the website. More often than not you will find only vague decriptions about the course and graduation criteria. Beside, every major program is different, some program coordinators are better than the rest. But these guys are very few.

@GBGcommuter what you say is true, but, think of it from a student's perspective. Let me tell you what I'm facing. I have a good job offer after this, so i need to be sure that i can graduate on time. I talked to my advisor, she told me I should check up myself, which I did. However, since the rules are very vague, and I happen to be one who get caught between a system shift ("Bologna process" for those who know what it is), there is always the creeping sensation that something might go wrong. I have checked my record again and again to what little information is on the website. I believe I can graduate with no problem, but it drives you crazy. Lots of guys who failed to graduate on time were also sure that they could. But in the end, the likes of Göran Svensson hold the power. And they told me that unless you have completed your thesis and obtained enough many credits, they won't even talk to you about eligibility. So even if there is a major twist, you can only find out about it when it's too late.

To all of you who questioned Bachelor course vs Master course, the answer is yes, it happens sometimes. In some major programs you can substitute a couple of Master level courses to Bachelor level courses. This is especially true for courses that count as bachelor for some major but master for others. For my program the courses are counted as "basic" or "advanced" levels, an advanced level course can be a late bachelor course or early master course.
01:59 April 13, 2012 by Jeff10
Rethinking Affirmative Action at Colleges John McWhorter

Stuyvesant is one of New York City's few top public high schools, a magnet school shunting students into Ivies. What gets dicey is when color is used in a way that admits brown students over white ones with better grades and scores.

That is, there has been a "black bonus." In the past, similar "black bonuses" -- although no one puts it that way -- have been revealed at the University of Michigan (being black adds 20 out of 100 points needed for admission), the University of California, Rutgers and other schools.

The upshot: Black underrepresentation must be because of what someone, or something, else is doing.

Here's where Stuyvesant comes in. Many years ago I had a discussion with a black woman -- educated and not given to rhetoric or friction -- who didn't understand my view that racism is no longer black people's main problem. She mentioned a New York school much like Stuyvesant and said, "I walk by there and you can just see the racism. The neighborhood is full of black kids, and there's barely a black face in the whole school."

These days, there are only 51 black students there out of 3,300, while 72.5 percent of the student body today is Asian.

I suggested to the woman that racism in the past can leave a culture with present-day problems that only they (we) can fix. It's the kind of argument that Stanford Law School's Richard Thompson Ford made in his book The Race Card: How Bluffing About Bias Makes Race Relations Worse.

Her response was deeply eloquent in its way. She sat silently for about eight seconds, jaw set, looking past me. Then she peacefully brought up another topic. I got the message and we moved on. Ford has told me that he has elicited similarly chilly reactions at times.

Stuyvesant admits based on a test, period. So if racism is keeping black kids out, then the test is racist.

Now, there was a time when you could say to a room full of concerned black people that standardized tests are incompatible with "black" thinking. However, those were dashiki days. The Times article quotes someone black saying, "The exam is designed to exclude blacks because it's heavy on math, and black people can't do math." Whatever she meant, I read the passage twice, making sure that it really was said by a black person, and wishing that it weren't. I moved on.

Not all black people would put it as straight as the woman I spoke to did, but her way of thinking is typical of a kind of shorthand that many use when thinking about race and society. When the black numbers are low, then "you know what that's all about" -- the deck is stacked against you when you're brown.

As such, treating racism as the problem in cases like this helps no one. Stuyvesant is a microcosm for the larger issue: It does nothing for black people to treat racism as the most interesting reason that not as many black students qualify for top universities.
16:33 April 13, 2012 by Montana
@jeff10 You seem to be hung up on the question of Affirmative Action, but I fail to see what AA has to do with the case of the student in this story. Can you please clarify for all of us?
12:26 April 14, 2012 by Max Reaver
Tried to google this news reported in Swedish, but found none. Obviously another thing the Swedes missed out on knowing their own system. Duh
12:36 April 22, 2012 by T117
This seems more like she asked the wrong question, and lacked a little sense.

She should have specified that it was a graduate course she needed to replace. It seems like common sense that you *cannot* replace a graduate course with an undergraduate course. I don't think this is possible even in the States, and it doesn't make sense. Having an undergraduate course give you credit at a graduate level… the content might have been relevant but the course plan/syllabus and even examinations are very different between these two levels

On the other hand, if she failed the course twice, why didn't she ask for a different examiner? Then again… you might need to find yourself a tutor, study harder, and really apply yourself. I wonder if that undergraduate course that was due to start was more of a back-up plan, i.e. the easy way out?

Just wondering...
08:11 April 25, 2012 by boomhauer
It is not her fault, her advisor gave her bad information. This is quiet common in universities not just in sweden but world wide, advisors tell students they can take X course instead of Y and later turns out to be untrue and there is no punishment for the advisor. 2. Jeff's comment was just ignorant, the surgeon general is african american, half the medical breakthrough from America come from African American surgeons, including the c-section, heart transplant, organ transplants, blood banks and African American have contributed to more advances in the medical probably 2nd only to the jews. In fact how many contributions have the swedes have in comparasion, not many come to mind. 3. The person had a hispanic name Velvez, so is probably either white or mexican. 4. The american standardized test are heavily bias in linguistic wording in favour of a standardized english to American whites from a particular part of the North east US. The test are generally written by a group of white professors in a rural area of Pennyslvania. A 2nd language english speaker could never perform well on it and the test are not required in places like Quebec where not speaking this type of English is a huge disadvantage. Standardized test have nothing to do with intelligence, they simply measure how quickly you can solve a set of problems who have its own system of being solved. The test is entirely learnable, but much of it has to do with solving inferred meanings from words that are specific to each test. Most Swedes, despite speaking a passable English would not be able to score more than 20% on the lsat, because the type of English is very unusual than what is normal. You'd see words that are seldom used in regular English speech and you'd be asked to draw conclusions from inferred meanings on words you'd not understand. 5. Yes the test is bias against anyone who does not use this language. In fact it is probably bias against anyone who is not from the upper class elite American olde money northeasterner. If you don't watch seinfeld or don't read books written by some author who died 30 years ago and wrote about artistic transcendentalisic art and cubism grand master pieces, or if you do not have a vocabulary greater than 99% of the regular english speaking population than includes vague concepts that regular folks do not care about forget performing well on this 6. I don't even see how this conversation turned to african americans. The focus of this should be on the joke called Swedish university which is now trying to charge foreign students. Seriously, really, when the grad can't even get a job for not speaking swedish. I can see a reason for studying in major english countries but not for Sweden, high unemployment, expensive, no chance of job after
03:57 May 9, 2012 by Jeff10
@ Montana:

The reason is that Ms. Velez effectively is asking for AA; in other words, she wants something that hasn't been earned by her. This is the essence of AA. Case in point, the clown now referred to as the President of the United States (POTUS).
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Nordic fashion took centre stage in the Swedish capital last week as Stockholm University hosted the “first-ever” academic conference looking at luxury and sustainability in the fashion industry.

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