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Feminist politician equates Pirate Party supporters with rapists

David Landes · 17 Jun 2009, 17:54

Published: 17 Jun 2009 17:54 GMT+02:00

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Last Sunday, Annika Qarlsson, who also heads the board of the Centre Party’s women’s organization Centerkvinnorna, reflected on her blog about the success of the Pirate Party in recent European Parliament elections.

“[H]ere’s a thought and a reflection connected to the Pirate Party’s success with many young men, who voted for them in order to protect their personal privacy. [I’m] thinking about the statistics which came out the other day that show there are innumerable young women who are raped by young men who they barely know or don’t know at all,” wrote Qarlsson.

“And I can’t make sense of it – do young men think that privacy is important or don’t they?”

Readers of Qarlsson’s blog responded to the post with a wave of more than 162 comments, the vast majority of which were highly critical of her line of thought.

“To collectively lay blame on a group of people for what a few individuals do is neither fair nor especially intelligent. Moreover it’s far from being liberal,” wrote one commenter.

Another commenter poked fun at Qarlsson’s analysis.

“Did you know Annika that 80 percent of those who die in car accidents ate tomatoes the day before. Shouldn’t you fight for a ban on tomatoes?” the person wrote.

Qarlsson attempted to backtrack in a later blog post, apologizing to readers for being “vague”.

“I realize that my earlier post can be interpreted to mean that I’m accusing all Pirate Party supporters and all young men of being rapists. That is not the case,” she wrote on Tuesday.

Qarlsson explained she was calling on young men to display the same level of engagement for privacy issues when it comes to rape as they appear to display when it comes to privacy and the internet.

“What I’m looking for is that all men’s engagement reaches the same heights every time a young woman’s privacy is violated, which has consequences for the rest of her life,” Qarlsson wrote.

The challenge, according to Qarlsson is trying to make the connection between the privacy over one’s body and privacy on the internet.

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“The respect demanded to have freedom on the internet is exactly the same as demands made by young women when they are out on the streets and in city squares,” Qarlsson told the Realtid.se news website.

“It’s about being respected so that someone doesn’t tread on me or my rights. For me, there are a lot of similarities. That’s why I wish that the issue encompassed that sort of engagement. That was my train of thought.”

In a final blog post on the issue, Qarlsson admitted that the wording of her original post was “misguided” and “totally wrong”.

David Landes (david.landes@thelocal.se)

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Your comments about this article

19:03 June 17, 2009 by Absolute
If the supporters are rapists(people getting pleasure(copyrighted material)) then the record labels are prostitutes(selling pleasure(copyrighted material)).
20:23 June 17, 2009 by Uncle
Young men are also the target market for fast cars. Why Ms. (I am sure it is Ms.) Qarlsson is not proposing to ban the car sellers to sell sports cars and bikes to them, because they rape a lot in general? The same men also do not care much for the menstruation suffering of women, which should be punishable by ban on the men voting rights.

All the interests of young men should be concentrated 24/7 on the problems of women without any questions. Nothing else should matter until the women will have no problems whatsoever. While the ones who by chance did not rape, shall answer also, because they surely did not notice the new haircut of Ms. Qarlsson.
20:57 June 17, 2009 by peropaco
Ms. Qarlsson with a Q. probably doesn't get a menstruation any longer. She seems way past those days many moons ago. Do you think low self esteem prompted her to replace the usual C or K with a Q? One day she probably had a lack of oestrogen moisten up her juices and that explains the Q- O_o
21:01 June 17, 2009 by Eora
AQ has low IQ
21:11 June 17, 2009 by eZee.se
"All the interests of young men should be concentrated 24/7 on the problems of women without any questions. Nothing else should matter until the women will have no problems whatsoever."

Never happen, coz women will just make up more problems - and although that might offend a couple of women,ladies, you know i'm right.

When i think of these hardcore feminists theres always one joke that comes to mind:

what do you tell a feminist with two black eyes?

Nothing, you've told her twice already!

Anybody noticed things have gotten really screwed up once women got the chance to vote?

21:22 June 17, 2009 by spy
Q. What's the differnce between a terrorist and feminist?

A. It is possible to negotiate with a terrorist.
21:39 June 17, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran

How do you get from her admittedly dumb comments to deciding that she is a "harlot"? Are you always this angry? And whether she menstruates or not is really not germane to this discussion.
21:51 June 17, 2009 by Streja
Yes, everything was much better when only men ruled the world. Adolf Hitler, such a lovely moustache.

It's a real wonder...all these johns on this forum seem to have forgotten their mothers. Maybe they were all created by men.
21:54 June 17, 2009 by Blazek
I do no consider this especially controversial. I just equate this to a kid in Philosophy 101 raising her hand and rattling off some incoherent nonesense.
22:38 June 17, 2009 by Gustav- Fælbönnran
You think punching women in the face is funny?
22:49 June 17, 2009 by Streja
Gustav, he's obviously a bully, like one of those guys who gladly sent young men to war to be used as cannon fodder whilst sitting on his fat arse escaping real action.
22:58 June 17, 2009 by spy
I think violence against women is the lowest of the low but I suspect he was trying to wind you up rather than be a bully.

To go back to the point I think the best argument against feminism is a five-minute conversation with a feminist.
23:04 June 17, 2009 by 7
it's always the "clever" ones who feel threatened by women (and can't stand it when they're dumber than the woman they think should be the dumb one)

ezee can only feel masculine enough when he's beaten a woman. sad really.
23:08 June 17, 2009 by Streja
That's funny. I never wind people up by saying that I like beating up men. Funny that.

Anyone who thinks that it is funny to wind people up by saying that they enjoy beating women is seriously disturbed.
23:09 June 17, 2009 by 7
using 'jokes' advocating violence towards women isn't either funny or a cool tactic to wind people up. it's an indication that he thinks women are ok to demean and threaten (even if he'd never consider being violent himself). shall we try to rile up some jews using gas chambers jokes?

cool. go

*sets timer to 5 minutes
23:10 June 17, 2009 by Streja
It's as if Jews or other groups in society who are treated badly deserve to be winded up as some sort of sick joke. It's not funny and it's not entertainment.
23:11 June 17, 2009 by 7
you have much more charming ways of winding people up.
23:11 June 17, 2009 by Streja

Great minds eh?

Weird that...exctly my view as well.
23:12 June 17, 2009 by 7
hey! i already used the "jokes for jews" reference. find your own oppressed or disparaged societal grouping!
23:12 June 17, 2009 by Streja
Awww...thanks. Maybe it's my old age. I am a wise woman. lol
23:14 June 17, 2009 by Streja
Ok, germanic tribes? They were really oppressed by Southern Europeans at one point...only because they wanted those Southerners to wear trousers!! I say let's give them some cultural lessons!
23:34 June 17, 2009 by spy
I agree arguably he made a bad joke but it did not seem to me to be a call to violence. I can understand if you were irritated - as was I over your reference to war.

As a former member of the forces I felt you were demeaning those soldiers (men and women) who have put their lives on the line on operations. Soldiers are no longer drafted - they volunteer proudly. Also not all senior officers are men.
23:45 June 17, 2009 by Streja
spy, you can't read properly.

You see what really bugs me are evil men who think it's ok to lure young guys, sometimes as young as 18, to volunteer for wars where their job is to kill other young men while the fat cats earn a lot of money going to war. I don't see how that is demeaning to soldiers.

Do you think war is a good thing then? See it seems rather strange that some men think it's ok to kill people only because there is a war. The only just reason to go to war would be to defend yourself against invasion.

Some countries have conscription as well still you know, but did you assume I was talking about an English speaking country?

Women give birth in pain and then some nutter thinks it's ok to just destroy life with the touch of a button. I will never understand that.
23:47 June 17, 2009 by 7
who's talking to who now?
23:50 June 17, 2009 by eZee.se
@Grandma, my reply was not directed at you either... but to all biddies who think like you :)

And... i still think thats a hilarious joke... to tell women like... well, you.

Apparently you missed my little "hehehe" or just didnt want to pay attention to it because you were so "taken aback" by my joke, for the love of god, stop hating men with their evil pen!ses and enjoy a joke now and again no matter what its about otherwise you do sound like you haev a stick up your behind.

But im not replying to flame anybody, so heres a peace gesture from me.. to you:

ezee DOT se/funnies/show_funny_j206-1.htm

hope you find THAT funny.
23:50 June 17, 2009 by Streja
I'm Eleanor Roosewelt/Gandhi and spy is Dr Phil/Uncle Sam.

I don't know anymore. I'm confused.
23:53 June 17, 2009 by Streja
None of us hate men, but we're wondering why you hate women so much that you feel the need to make jokes that are offensive.

I could make a joke about small boys being raped by pedophiles and hen I might say hehehehe but it doesn't make the joke funny does it?

I would never do that of course, because I know that it would not be ok or funny. You're really not very smart.
23:59 June 17, 2009 by 7
i read that one and understood your references but ezee and spy are using "you" and i'm not sure who "you" is/are
23:59 June 17, 2009 by spy
No war is not good but it is sometimes necessary - sometimes nations must take a stand.

Both Men and WOMEN do volunteer proudly for operations and conscripts do not go to war.

As for the rest of the tosh you wrote I can only say (and I hope it increases your neurotic temperament) that I can see why you spend your life ranting on a computer to strangers. Goodnight and sweet dreams my dear.

Did your husband buy you a computer to keep you off his back you loonie?

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left."

Margaret Thatcher

- Famous women's Lib hater
00:03 June 18, 2009 by eZee.se
@Streja, i dont hate women, i have a mom and two sisters who i am very close to, furthermore if i even saw a woman in danger i would be one of the first ones to step forward to help in nearly any way i can.

When my "middle eastern neighbors" on top were having a quarrel i heard something that sounded like a hit then a feminine scream and i was the one who called the cops.

Sexist jokes are the funny no matter which sex, and thats the truth.

@Grandma, sorry, you are too much of a moron to even try to talk sense to so i'm going to stop trying. Say hi to your carpet munching friends for me tho :))
00:03 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
Perhaps it is a feminist conspiracy

Or perhaps the mods are getting bored with wading through idiotic posts
00:04 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Errr...right back at you Maggie!

*punches spy/maggie in the face for stealing her sambo's milk when he was a nipper*
00:06 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
You can tell when it's the school holidays...
00:06 June 18, 2009 by Streja
ezee, it's just something I will always disagree with you on....humour. I don't like sexist jokes of any nature.
00:07 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Yeah damn right!

No more correcting until hmmmmm august atleast!!
00:08 June 18, 2009 by 7
what's the war thing about now?

offended by a joke? who the hell gives a rat's ass to be offended by a joke. i think people thinking violence towards women makes for a funny haha moment probably have issues with women who could kick their asses either physically and/or intellectually. it's always an easier out when in debate to offend and demean than combat with clearly thought out rhetoric.

to dumb that down for the needy...smart people express ideas, not smart people put people down who disagree with or threaten them.
00:09 June 18, 2009 by Streja
By the way, this feminist is moving to Stockholm..

There I will spread my hatred of men in all my teachings...moahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
00:11 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Haven't you any exam papers to check over?

*holiday right,well the flat requires dusting*
00:11 June 18, 2009 by Streja

I don't get it. I was only saying that it's a shame that so many young men are killed in wars and that someone else is earning money from it and then that meant apparently that I was offending soldiers.

No matter what I do....

*cries in the corner with her commie/nazi/femmi blanket*
00:11 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
Nope - and too many mellanstadiet pupils online in their bedrooms posting rubbish
00:12 June 18, 2009 by Streja
No dusting done 17 June, but I did clean the bathroom and recycled.

Birthdays are not what they used to be hmmm.

no exams nope
00:15 June 18, 2009 by Streja
I mean if all the young guys are killed in wars we get to sleep with dick cheney unless we're careful!

was that joke ok?

it has dick in it as well....double entendre

00:17 June 18, 2009 by spy
I bet you lot are all on the same cylce too.

Thanks for the sport, toodle-pip.
00:18 June 18, 2009 by eZee.se

fair enough :)


(@other-feminists-who-may-read-this-later am done with this thread, feel free to gripe and talk about how evil people like me put down the "feminist cause" :P )
00:18 June 18, 2009 by Streja
That post made me hungry...
00:19 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Jeez enough to turn one into a cross-dresser!

*do you serve meat balls?
00:21 June 18, 2009 by Streja
The Spotted Dick as well.

Ok hmmm sorry I'm really hungry now.

My humour is bad cos I need food.
00:21 June 18, 2009 by 7
so you just pissed away your five minutes...what did you prove with it?

*loves when nervous boys run for it
00:24 June 18, 2009 by Streja
00:24 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Surströmming and strawberries,forget the cream,that comes later..

*last beer then bedebyes*
00:29 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Sambo is here tomorrow night. he can cook.

Hmmmm...he'll be tired though. I guess I cna open up a can of something for him...I suppose...
00:31 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Didn't know they made canned pasta?

*or was it baked beans on toast,doused in HP sauce?*
00:33 June 18, 2009 by Streja
He had that today he said...in stockholm!

I had pasta with a red lentil sauce.

I was better than him today!
00:36 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Well had a healthy green salad today, with all the trimmings fresh from the garden,delicious..

*and 7 beers tonight,oj oj*
01:02 June 18, 2009 by Coalbanks
Rapists are irrational. Likewise linking rape to a desire for privacy on-line. I guess that AQ meant men should have at least as much respect for a woman's right to the privacy & security of their person as they claim for their on-line activities. I hope she has as much concern for men who are also subjected to rape & would I hope extend to them as much right to said privacy & security. Apparntly Canada is not the only country that does not attract only it's best & brightest to public office.
01:09 June 18, 2009 by 7
ah, back on topic...yep, pretty dumb linking the two. echoes of gudrun's classics.
07:19 June 18, 2009 by ziepe
somehow a notion that only males are users of The Pirate Bay and file sharing in general seems derogatory to me. As only boys are smart enough to master the internet. And she calls herself a feminist?! Phe.
07:39 June 18, 2009 by Jeffi
Yet another instance of a Swedish politician not thinking prior to speaking. Simply amazing to see so many stories like this.
09:36 June 18, 2009 by Bölö
Ignore that FAT lady. She has her own problem.
09:39 June 18, 2009 by Holecutter > The Howl From He
Some years ago on this site, we compared and discussed the reasons why Swedish politicians were so dumb when it comes to thinking outside their box of socialistic doctrine. The general consensus was because when compared with other politicians in most other countries...the Swedes only had basic education, and most did not have any experience regarding dealing with basic issues. This woman's comments only reflect her provincial farmer like comments and don't forget....she is only a woman, and we all know woman don't think very well...and she is most probably a catholic as well.

09:50 June 18, 2009 by Marley420
Holecutter, my work colleagues were wondering why I broke out laughing just now. Great one!!
10:02 June 18, 2009 by Bölö
Q: Why are hurricanes normally named after women?

A: When they come they're wild and wet, but when they go they take your house and car with them
10:59 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
A pity that it is inaccurate - hurricanes are names after men and women

This is the list approved by the National Hurricane centre of 2009





















11:20 June 18, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
AQ must have attended PETA's propaganda 101 seminar (re: Obama's killing a fly).

As for the absolutely fetching commentary by some of the men folk in this thread, one cannot help but wonder when the last time they touched a female (other than their mother, sister, aunt, etc...) was. Furthermore, makes you wonder how they would feel if someone was using their mother, sister, aunt, daughter, etc... as the butt of the joke.
11:24 June 18, 2009 by Holecutter > The Howl From He
Do I hear "knickers a twisting" here ?

11:28 June 18, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
Isn't there a distinct difference between a funny-ha-ha joke and a punch-the-bitch-in-the-face joke?
11:37 June 18, 2009 by jack sprat
Strange how its usually the female ones that cause most havoc.

Tongue firmly in cheek ...of course.
11:37 June 18, 2009 by Holecutter > The Howl From He

Yes, there is a difference......real men don't beat up women or make jokes about it. However, this female politician deserves the comments directed at her for making such bias comparisons. She is most probably in the pay of the music industry, and thinks its OK to smear Pirate Bay party

Your up early...can't sleep ?

11:39 June 18, 2009 by Nemesis
She is not a feminist.

She is trying to brand people from a new political party as rapists so as to blacken there name.

Hopefully people will see through this and vote for anyone but her at the next election.
12:06 June 18, 2009 by JRuth
Setting aside the ludicrously facile thinking behind some comments here from people who think that gender hatred can be as much fun as - well, bear-baiting (yes, exactly), the point is that this politician has attempted to use crimes of violence to stir up an angry reaction from feminists - and failed. We all know rape is about control and violence, we all know that she is trying to control other people's reactions with manipulative trigger-pressing comments : ergo, she is trying to violate people's thinking.
12:12 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Qarlsson is a member of the center party, so holecutter was right about her farmer views but not about the woman part.

I also agree with the person who said it's not feminist to claim that only men use pirate bay.

However, the Pirate Party has mostly male members. I think they just managed to attract some voters that have not found a party that suits their interests. Likening it to rapists is VERY stupid.
12:19 June 18, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
But that's why I knocked the woman for her PETA-esque tactics. Not only is it entirely unfounded, it's ridonkulous. Alas, she won because people are talking about her and her stupid message.

As for being up early, sadly...yes. :grumbles:
12:21 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu
Mmmm...Part time ballot counter were we?
12:21 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
Hurricane Andrew was nasty piece of work I seem to remember
12:24 June 18, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
As were Floyd and Hugo.
12:26 June 18, 2009 by Puffin
Although you can argue about the headline grabbing quotes from this government block politician - some of the underlying points are worth discussing

If there was no form of internet regulation then stopping crimes such as child porn/abuse would be difficult. So she could be right that there are some - and probably a small minority - that have less than pure motives for supporting the pirate party into order to conceal their activities.
12:27 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Mzungu, according to surveys and their records.
12:35 June 18, 2009 by Mzungu

Oh!... Then you weren't moonlighting? ...

*just a thought*
12:45 June 18, 2009 by Streja
Nah, I need a lot of spare time to be able to open up the cans for dindins.
16:19 June 18, 2009 by Playmaker
if she want to be really equal then she should start with something simple like sports. could you imangine the olympics as a uni sex. that would be funny. lets see how equal women or to men then.

What is the difference between a battery and a woman?

A battery has a positive side.

What if God's a woman? Not only am I going to hell, I'll never know why.

Wanna hear a funny joke?

Women's rights.

Why do women live longer than men?

Because God adds them the time that they wasted on parking.

oh that last one is real funny
21:09 June 18, 2009 by Brigadir
Behind every big men stays a strong women. In front of all men stays a crowd of feminists. In every house above and under every men usually lays a women. We can't live with them and we can't live without them. Are we, men , victims? No, certeinly not but... just in case... can anybody tell me where I can find the "menists" organisation? I soppouse it exists one! Or...?
21:53 June 18, 2009 by High Priestess Kang - Slut
You so clever. I can't bear to be in the same room with you. :sticks finger down throat and gags:
22:50 June 18, 2009 by outcast
it is crazy
09:14 June 19, 2009 by Svartskalle
Double moral, double face, double talk...

First she comes with humiliation, later comes with shaky explanation - "I didn't meant them all".

… And they are absolutely none acountabel…
16:09 June 19, 2009 by spy
3 witches:

One minute you are telling people not to be sexisit the next you are man-bashing on a different thread.

You know who you are.
19:13 June 19, 2009 by Kevgio
the feminists in sweden really need to stop wrecking normal human life and get over their inadequate ways of trying to be like men.

i cant believe the swedes let these dumb b!tches get away with such crap!

just goes to show the men in that country are real pussies.
19:20 June 19, 2009 by Janie
Everyone is having a go at this bloke for saying that once women's problems are solved, feminists will just invent more. However, by getting knickers in such a twist about that and the joke, it's kind of proving his point.
21:05 June 19, 2009 by Svartskalle
I was dissapointed in women when they declared about their ambition to be equal to men.
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