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Racism whistleblower faces 'negro slave' taunt

David Landes · 21 Apr 2011, 15:42

Published: 21 Apr 2011 12:28 GMT+02:00
Updated: 21 Apr 2011 15:42 GMT+02:00

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Jallow Momodou of the National Afro-Swedish Association (Afrosvenskarnas riksförbund) reported Halland and Helsingkrona student associations for failing to take action when guests who arrived at "jungle parties" showed up with blackened faces and ropes around their necks.

Following news of his complaint, Momodou arrived at his office at Malmö University on Wednesday morning to find posters on the library bulletin board featuring his face superimposed on the image of a naked man in chains.

"Our negro slave has run away," read the text on the posters.

Momodou, who had been alerted the night before that the posters may be circulating at the university, consulted the attending librarian.

He was told that a student had handed over a stock of similar posters on Tuesday night, which had apparently been printed out from the library computers.

"It felt awful…really, really bad," Momodou told The Local.

While he was also angered by the posters Momodou said he isn't surprised.

"For me it's proof that racism really exists in Sweden and is on a level comparable to the southern United States in the 1970s," he said.

Momodou has since reported the incident to the police.

And his supervisors and other high ranking officials at Malmö University all expressed their concern about the incident and promised to do what they could to ensure similar incidents didn't occur in the future.

In an interview published later on Wednesday by Lund University's student newspaper, Lundagård, controversial artist Dan Park, claimed responsibility for the posters.

"I want to make fun of the fact that people get upset about something like this," he told the newspaper.

At the time, Park was putting up copies of the poster in Lund.

He believes reaction to the "slave auction" has been blown out of proportion.

"Certain people are always offended. They have no sense of humour," he said.

Park was arrested while putting up the posters and is suspected of doing so without a permit. However, prosecutors will also look into whether he may be charged with racial agitation, the Expressen newspaper reports.

Now that the creator of the posters has been identified, however, Momodou hopes that the promises of action to address the incident will be realised.

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"I'm really hoping and expecting that the university and police will take responsibility and show that such actions will not be tolerated," he said.

Momodou also lamented that no politicians had publicly condemned the "slave auction" incident, calling the lack of response "tragic".

"I'm a Swedish citizen and there are lots of Afro-Swedes who feel attacked by this," he said.

Momodou emphasised, however, that he wouldn't back down in the face of racism.

"I will not be intimidated," he said.

"If anything, this encourages me to keep fighting for my rights."

David Landes (david.landes@thelocal.se)

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13:14 April 21, 2011 by RobinHood
The police in Lund would have given Mr Momodou the attention he deserves, but the entire force is busy listening to a hooker having sex, and won't be available for other equally serious crimes until after August.
13:30 April 21, 2011 by Doreen1
This is awful, just awful. Someone said something nasty about someone else. This should really make the front pages. What is the world coming to when someone actually *writes* something subjectively racistly offensive about someone else at a domestic level? This is just like the southern United States in the 1970s, which must have been worse than in the 1950s. Thank goodness we have activists in the media to push their social agendas, no matter how trite or naive. Go, The Local!
14:00 April 21, 2011 by Rick Methven
The guy who made these posters Dan Park was convicted of Race hate a year ago after he place a tin can marked ZYKLON-B outside a synagogue in Stockholm.

This is one really sicko idiot.

I wonder which political party he supports?
14:08 April 21, 2011 by sushi_and_sweden
I shuddered at this news. It's great of him to have been able to say "i'm not intimidated" but I hope he won't be attacked or injured because of his brave actions!
14:16 April 21, 2011 by Roy E
Oh, the horror!

This outrage is just cowardly nonsense. If people were truly serious about this issue, they'd be working to put an end to slavery in the parts of the worlds where it still is practiced.

This 'outrage' just just a bunch of egoists wanting to strike a bankrupt pose of moral superiority. And so we must endure another farce brought to us by the Theater of the Absurd.
14:21 April 21, 2011 by Rick Methven
@Roy E

so from your post, you think that it is OK for this sick racist Dan Parks to plaster these posters all over the place.

Nailed your racist flag to the mast well
14:30 April 21, 2011 by Observour
Do europeans really think it's right to surprise other people and make mockery of their misery? Unfortunately it is ignorant people who are at the fore of this. They are fed with lies in the media about others and that backs their action.

Some people really think Africans are not able to defend themselves against Europeans and that is quite a misplaced argument because all Africans who dared to become independent are made unpopular and literally executed by the Europeans. All well meaning Africans I know don't want to enter into politics because they want to live. Western politicians have devided the continent and people against themselves, effectively taking advantage of existing differences.

You might think this is a blame game but just stop feeding on the wrong information you are fed (if you can identify the lies) and study the actions of the west in Africa. In any case, this kind of behaviour is wrong.
14:32 April 21, 2011 by Swedesmith
I certainly don't find the poster to be humorous.
14:40 April 21, 2011 by Roy E
@Rick Methven

I think people need a lot less hypersenstivity, phony outrage, and bankrupt posturing I believe that is precisely the point that the poster creator is making. I do not have a problem with him giving us demonstration of your mindless Pavlovian conditioning.
14:44 April 21, 2011 by Dazzler
HAH... Afro Swedes.....time to buy some relaxer!
14:47 April 21, 2011 by Dave N
Comment removed by The Local for breach of our terms.
14:48 April 21, 2011 by technoviking
@ Roy

Photoshopping a black guy dressed as a slave isn't really a clever political statement. It's just racist intimidation. There's no double meanings here I can see...

The guy has the right to be offended like a Jew would be over a holocaust joke or an American would be over a 9/11 joke. I wouldn't call either of the former hypersensitive for reacting badly to such a thing.

I don't really see a defensible position where any of this is okay.
14:53 April 21, 2011 by swedejane
Quite right @Roy E...you sound like a Nazi sympathizer and I'm sure you would have no problem with us putting up posters of you saluting Hitler at your place of work, would you? I'll just need your head shot and name/address of your employer.
15:03 April 21, 2011 by Nilspet
@Dave N

Do you expect all the white people in Africa, Australia, Asia, Latin America to go back to Europe (where the majority live)? Your speech (idea) suggested that white should only live in Europe, black in Africa, colored where they originally come from. If you really thought so then all the white that live in e.g. S. Africa should move back to European countries where their forefathers came from...

About 200 years ago it was Ok to think like that man but we are living in 2011 and it is better to think 2011 ...than 1800s.
15:12 April 21, 2011 by SimonDMontfort
I just can't believe the story quite frankly - I mean don't Swedish workplaces and institutions have 'behaviour standards' and 'discipline codes' calling for respect to be shown to those from 'different' backgrounds?

If this were the UK, and I were one of the 'high ranking officials' I think I'd probably need to consider resigning. Whoever was responsible for the 'racial slurs' would quite possibly be thrown in jail
15:17 April 21, 2011 by Roy E

Let's not forget that the posters are a response to an incident and not a spontaneous initial provocation. The larger issue here is the implied right to 'not be offended' , which of course is absolutely ridiculous. Being offended is a personal choice that each individual makes for himself.

Now if you want to follow that road that to where it leads - the lowest common denominator of nobody ever taking offense ever (the Hate speech road) , you'll find that you end up in a pretty nasty place when all the projections of those defining what constitutes 'hate' come down upon you.

The solution to this nonsense is thicker skin, plain and simple. It's not censors and thought police.
15:20 April 21, 2011 by jostein
Hm, so, the media and mr Momodou have made a tasteless but harmless thingie at a studentparty into nationwide propaganda. Why?

Furthermore, this mr Momodou is extremely racist and narrow in his perspective concentrationg only on people enslaved in history from his own region/continent and only those held by white westeners. He can hardly claim any universal principle in his argument, just narrow selfinterest. Because slavery is more or less universal in human history. All nations ive ever heard of held slaves or similar, including mr Momodous ancestors.
15:39 April 21, 2011 by Roy E
@swedejane - "Quite right @Roy E...you sound like a Nazi sympathizer and I'm sure you would have no problem with us putting up posters of you saluting Hitler at your place of work, would you? I'll just need your head shot and name/address of your employer"

Does coming off like an idiot come naturally to you or do you have to work at it?

But thanks for the illustration. You've called me names and threatened me, but lo and behold, I am not running off to the authorities to report that your hateful diatribe has reduced me to to a broken, blubbering, puddle of whimpering self-pity, because it hasn't happened. I respect your right to believe whatever it is you want to believe. You are free to be a wrong as you choose to be.

see? Thicker skin. It's good stuff to have.
15:42 April 21, 2011 by skatty
Controversial artist!

Generally; in Sweden they, who are neither a good artist, nor have a solid ability in argument, become a "Controversial artist".

These people mostly compensate their lack of talent in art by help of controversial activity, otherwise nobody pay attention to them, and they are desperate to buy attention!
15:54 April 21, 2011 by bolababu
considering the fact that this forum has been split in equal half between overly-racist-europeans and moderate-hypocritical europeans, confirmation isn't afterall hard to realize. africans! ..europes biggest problem despite all the terrorism europe is surrounded by. i got tired of swedish ladies clutching hard on their hand-bags when i walk past them, considering the fact that i probably pay more tax in this country than they ever will. What to do? ..move! come to think of it, sweden is not even one of the best places on earth! ..i don't regret one minute that i moved. swedes like to prey on other people's misery to find happiness for themselves and can you even blame them? ..the country is freaking depressing!

africans! ..you don't feel welcome? ..move!! ..its not so hard, leave sweden and the future plague of terrorism that awaits her!
16:01 April 21, 2011 by Roy E

Don't confuse an attack on wimp culture with being a defense of racism.
16:03 April 21, 2011 by LeoKinmann
LOL, awesome argument from Nilspet, as usual...

This news really shocked me. Racism is more serious than expected in Sweden. When I lived in New York state, whoever posted a similar poster wouldve faced a life-time ban by the school. Most of the America have moved ahead of Sweden when it comes to fighting racism. But the Swedish politicians try to deny that racism exists in this country, and claim that whoever wants to fight racism are fighting the nonexistent. In the end, it's better to fight an enemy that's been lifted out into the light than lurking in the darkness. First the Swedish government have to admit SD's political advance, as well as all SD stands for. Only then you can face racism in day light to fight it!
16:08 April 21, 2011 by bolababu
@ROY E; ..you got the wrong guy bruv, my skin's as thick as they come, especially since i'm black as they come. a simple psycho-analysis of your words tell me you were probably fondled by all the elders in your family as a child, its not our culture so don't come venting your frustration here, take it where it belongs, to the vikings! ..or better still, your ancenstors!
16:14 April 21, 2011 by Roy E

Your 'simple psycho-analysis' sounds far more like projection than anything else.
16:15 April 21, 2011 by bolababu
@LeoKinmann; why do you think swedes and the jews don't get along? excatly for this same reason. swedes were sympathetic to Hitler and still are. the Jews are nobody's fool so they took Olof Palmer to teach sweden a lesson but the swedes won't learn so they sent the flottila, the jews ripped it apart too. i don't get how making other people feel bad gives swedes a sense of satisfaction. that must be an undiscovered level of low-self-esteem.
17:27 April 21, 2011 by swedejane
Such macho men...with 10,000 years of unchecked white prosperity behind them...giving us all lessons on how to be tough like them. Yet, these are the first ones to wet their panties if someone wants to wear a burqa or build a mosque. Or cry about anyone not sufficiently "swedish" needs to love "their" country.

I stand by my earlier statement @Roy E: If you don't see why putting these posters up at someone's workplace constitutes harassment then post your headshot and your workplace address...I'm sure there are a few of us who can have some fun with our own "controversial art". Is your skin not think enough for that...or just your bal*s not big enough?
17:54 April 21, 2011 by technoviking
@ Roy

I'm definitely opposed to the gov't getting involved, but it was offensive and in poor taste. And going to the guy's actual office would probably elevate it to harassment IMO. Not cool.

There are plenty of American comedians who make some pretty funny racial jokes (Daniel Tosh for example) . But they tend to be clever, mock sterotypes and not use heinous atrocities or genocides as material.

Slavery isn't terribly funny and therefore not appropriate material for "humor".
17:58 April 21, 2011 by r.jean
@swedejane @Roy E : agreed.

The POINT is found in the reaction to whats going on. It is not being blown out of proportion, the Afro-Swedes DO have a right to be offended, because look at the pot that these kids stirred. Its right here on the message board: xenophobia in Sweden, still a very true reality.

And what bothers me the most is that people call it a NON-ISSUE, it is NOT a non-issue, it is an ignored issue.

These KIDS were brought up in a society that told them it would be OK to dress this way ... they got this idea with the intent that it would be acceptable, nej, FUNNY.... and they were RIGHT, because they made it to two of the parties and nobody did a damn thing. No one called them out. Doing nothing ... this sense of "neutrality" is just as bad as condoning racism. Tolerating BLATANT racism!! THAT is the point, and that is what bothers me.

Totally disgusting, but not surprising that it happened.

The determining factor will be what happens next. and to be honest, probably nothing.
18:20 April 21, 2011 by jostein
17:58 April 21, 2011 by r.jean

The only issue here is that our society suffers from professional "getting offended outfits".

If there had been a viking theme on that party and 3 ppl decided to show up as thralls, there would not have been these pathetic protests by estonians or irish or french or british people? Even thou if sweden and slavery is to be discussed, thralls are alot more relevant than the atlantic slavetrade.

If the party theme had been ancient rome and 3 ppl showed up as slaves, the ethnic swedes would not have been offended and started crying like babies. If the party theme had been the orient and 3 ppl showed up as slaves, slavic people would not have started screaming, nor would people from southern italy been offended. It IS a non issue. That you think it is an issue is probably due to you dividing people into a hierarchy of race in your head? And you think its bad to peck downwards in your race hierarchy?

The issue here is that we have people making a living by being offended. So they scoop up whatever muck they can find. Or stuff they can make look like muck. Pathetic. And damaging to our society.
18:43 April 21, 2011 by jomamas
I am offended by this web site.

Pay me now.
19:05 April 21, 2011 by r.jean
The party was *Jungle themed* and the 3 guys showed up dressed as African slaves. The thought process from "jungle theme" to "lets dress up like slaves" to "lets dress up like slaves and itll be hilarious to auction each other off" is just unfathomable to me.

I understand what you mean by the professional "getting offended outfits", similar to having a discussion with my friend, who is very much a feminist, but her experiences paint what she sees, and I respect that, and maybe others in Sweden have yet to be at the receiving end of racism to understand the depth of these actions. I hate to say that I can unfortunately attest to racism occurring, and that I would love to think that they didnt mean harm to me, and were just joking. To say that I am dividing people into a race hierarchy in my head -- what are you getting at? Because I think its wrong to make fun of others people suffering? And they have suffered and continue to...?

But the extent of this act, and the one that followed, is undeniably racist no? Is it?? The scale of this incident may seem small, but its there. Would you have taken part in the bidding if you were at this nation? Would you have dressed up too? Would you have enjoyed your time with them.

Am I supposed to be convinced now that I'm overracting? Or are the responses that I'm getting from these message boards telling me to densensitize and just ignore it because they're just dumb kids and Sweden doesn't have a problem with different races at all.

Take this incident away from the political mubmo that is occuring in reaction to it and ask yourself is the act racist and if you were at that party what would you do.
19:19 April 21, 2011 by skatty

The"our society", which you mentions is divided in different races and classes. Obviously, there are poor with less ability and reach with more ability, whites with better opportunities and immigrants, refugees, Muslims and especially blacks with less possibilities, there are thousand of articles ,statistics, researches, facts, books, films, documents published and produced in "our society" for many years.

So, there is not any imaginary hierarchy in the heads, but a very real and painful one exist in many heads; now, if this hierarchy of races and classes can be considered as an issue or not, depends to your social status in the hierarchy.

If you are a rich, mocking a poor for the poverty would not be an issue for you, but for the poor. If you are a white mocking a black for the colour of skin would not be an issue for you, but for the black. If you are a Svensson in an American party in US, mocking a Svensson by American may not be an issue for the American, but for the Svensson.

You created a small party for your own in your head, where any body can mock anybody else and nobody give a damn, except the Africans.
19:21 April 21, 2011 by Rick Methven
Analysis of the psychology of the posters who think what this proven Jewish and black hating so called 'artist' did was funny or OK.

1. they have an IQ of minus 1

2. They are Jew and black hating racists themselves

3. most probably both

vote now
19:24 April 21, 2011 by Minnesota NyViking
In almost all western nations, including the former British colonies, the native citizens feel that increasingly their mostly bureacratic, elitists leaders DO NOT represent the values and mores of their citizens. This also includes the states policy towards immigration.

With the world economy beginning to faulter, native citizens are beginning to question and oppose immigration. This "slave auction" is a manifestation of the deeper fear the citizen has, but is unable to voice, because the state and it's "collectivist group think" has made it taboo.

Unless this attitude changes and it allows legitimate debate and allows the citizen to openly decide to oppose open immigration this will only get worse. The systematic brainwashing and mindset of negatively branding people who oppose immigration by non-western european's outside our more common gene-pool will eventually cause a backlash.

Instead of having multiculturalism...the counterreaction will be more akin to Hitler's Third Reich. I have increasingly heard people in private statements state that they now think it would have been better off if Hitler had won. Europe would have been stable, dynamic, it's native population protected and prosperous. This is just conjecture, but the fact people are now whispering this and speaking of this in private conversations clearly shows they are now opposed to multiculturalism and the elitist state shoving non-european values down the throats of it's citizen and not considering the valid fears of its citizens.

Many westerners are increasingly feeling threatened culturally, linquistically and now economically. Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West now seems at hand.
19:52 April 21, 2011 by technoviking
@Minnesota NyViking

You may be onto something.

This flippant mockery of a dark period of history is reprehensible and is perhaps a spineless, passive-aggressive response to the growing immigration debacle. It is however not a valid, rational or useful one.

Many Swedes are fed up with immigration and the multiculturalism fairy tale but if rather than having an open, honest and needed discussion about it, they nod in agreement in public, whisper behind closed doors and act out like this it is the epitome of cowardice and they are part of the problem.

The fanatic multiculturalist agenda may be partly to blame but so are the people themselves if this is how they respond to it...like cowardly idiots.
20:01 April 21, 2011 by Minnesota NyViking
@Technoviking.......precisely. There is a lack of balance, this is what happens when real republican forms of government is replaced with a pseudo-republican democracy. We end up being led by those with an agenda that ignores the will of the people.

If the people had been involved in the process, they would have felt a sense of ownership in the decision making process. Most people today, in western nations, feel alienated from the leadership of the politcal parties and the political process. Unless this changes, I definitely see a return to the polirization of the political expression of the people and parties. The worst case manifistation of this was when the Nazi's and Communists took it to the streets in the Weimar Republic. The Nazi's won and they over reacted with radical oppression of their opponents and minorities. I doubt this is what we want today in western countries.....but unless their is an open and free discussion of the problem and a willingness to compromise in a reasonable fashion....I fear we will eventually get the harsh, right wing backlash and history has proven the people out of self-preservation in bad economic times will support this.

So...this should be a clear warning of the current political parties to quit playing games and be more open in their discussion. They do not need to demonize those who oppose them....or they will get something much worse I'm afraid.

Just my opinion and my analysis of history and current events.
20:03 April 21, 2011 by zoroastrina
It is a commonplace that the German sense of humour consists of laughing and making fun of other people, especially those with certain handicaps or racial and other stigmata, and of an utter inability to laugh at themsleves, which can be seen as a total lack of empathy and a form of sadism (from Marquis de Sade) as defined by many philosophers and pschologists.
20:36 April 21, 2011 by StockholmSam
Skatty in post #19 beat me to it.

This "controversial artist" label is put on people who have no talent but crave the identity of the artist. Lars Vilks comes to mind. He and this guy Dan Park obviously want to be famous artists but lack the talent to achieve success. Thus, they must resort to nefarious tactics to get their names in the public discourse. Sad, really. Sadder that Vilks is now seen as a living martyr for free speech and this guy Park will probably earn a similar status by continuing his "controversial" art projects. He needs to face the fact that he is a no-talent loser trying to achieve success by stepping on other people.
20:50 April 21, 2011 by TheOriginalBlackMan
"Momodou also lamented that no politicians had publicly condemned the "slave auction" incident, calling the lack of response "tragic".

Yes it is.

Momodou if you happen to be reading this, it's not really worth the effort to fight a dying group who are so genetically water down that they are at a "0" replacement level.

Sweden is an American outpost that is really weak and will fall as soon as America falls. Black people must know. that when Europeans state that Europeans come from monkeys they should really believe them. That's all.
21:07 April 21, 2011 by DAVID T
Momodou my swedish friend :-) you started making a mountain out of a molehill - my my drunk students at a fancy dress party - whatever next - anyway your dumb complaining has back fired on you - it's about time we actually find out who these complainers are
21:19 April 21, 2011 by jostein
19:05 April 21, 2011 by r.jean

Sure it was tasteless but judging from the guys reaction later on they meant no harm by it, just thought it was a funny idea for an outfit, after all, they themselves posed as slaves, ie, of inferior social status. A reprimand and that would have been that.

In steps the professional complainers (they really do earn a living by making complaints, this dude IS a professional, payed by the state) and tries to make a lawthing out of it and drags this nonissue into the media. The media catches on and now this nonissue reaches a wide audience and it becomes an issue.

The reason i asked if you are a racist is because my guess is it is only the atlantic slavetrade that would make you offended. The other instances would not touch your sensibilities. And at least the viking slavetrade is much much more relevant to sweden and the arab slavetrade went on for much longer and involved more slaves than the transatlantic slavetrade. So, why? Why do you think its natural and defendable that this silliness erupts over the transatlantic slavetrade? When you would laugh at it if it involved some other part of history?

If you are so offended by the subjugation of others, do you also complain about women in the arab world? The status of guestworkers and servants in the arab world? The continued instances of slavery in africa? Most probably not. You probably view africans as inferior and that makes it taboo to refer to a part of history where that inferiority was official? Or maybe you just hate white people and use this nonissue as ammunition? Or something else, after all, i dont know you and my comment about racism-you was mostly provocative.

Me, personally, my opinions are categorized as racist in sweden. Just because i feel solidarity and loyalty towards my fellow swedes. I feel none towards these colonists from the middle east and africa.

My views are very similar to the renowned ethnonationalist Dalai Lama. But i guess he is better at spin.
21:33 April 21, 2011 by tuerd1982
There are plenty of ways to make a fun, but this is not the way to do it. I really hate these people who try to make fun based on race and religion. In my opinion they are the really bad people. In this developed, multicultural society why we allow such people massing around? Please people we have no difference, we all alike.
22:02 April 21, 2011 by technoviking
@ Minnesota NyViking

You're probably right. Time will tell I guess...

@The Overcompensating BlackMan

Yes. We know. White people are monkeys. We all wish we were black. And we are the racists apparently.
22:21 April 21, 2011 by jostein
19:19 April 21, 2011 by skatty

The "whites" you are talking about are us swedes who built this country and whose ancestors built this country. And fyi education is free here, you get money from the state to support you when you study, healthcare is more or less free here. So unless you are making a racist argument with your "less possibilities" your talk of possibilities sounds an awful lot like communism?

Sweden has absolutely no need for unskilled labour, the colonizers that move here from the middle east and africa are supported to a grotesque extent by taxmoney. The median time it takes an immigrant to get his or her(yea, right) first job is 8 years. And that figure is warped by westerners, asians and indians who go get jobs more or less immidiately (otherwise they wouldnt be here).

Sure, not the funniest joke but it seems it was more bad taste than illwill. So what are you yapping about? Guess you tried to mitigate my argument about slavery being more or less universal in human history? Sure, you have a point but its infintisimal. Especially if you heard this professional complainer and his crew who spend taxmoney on propaganda to build up a fiction that sweden was heavily involved in transatlantic slavery(probably to build up more "entitlement" where there were none to begin with). They have been at it for years and are scoring some successes since swedish historyteaching is subpar.
00:47 April 22, 2011 by skatty
@jostein #44

"My talk of possibilities sounds an awful lot like communism?", and what communism say about possibilities, which sound awful to you? The social hierarchy and class division! You don't have to read Marx to see the differences between poor and reach, black and white in a society.

If there is a free education and almost free health care; does it mean that the free services justify the racism and discrimination? Many times Swedish medias have mentioned by statistics that the chance of immigrants to find job is much less than native Swedes, no matter in a 8 years life time or 20 years, to have a degree from Sweden or somewhere else, to be able to speak Swedish or not, to be a skilled labour or not; the chance has always been less, "the less possibility".

Now, tell me what are you yapping about? The professional complainers, with their crew! Can you realize what you are talking about? You are writing comment in THELOCAl, for an article, which I haven't seen in any other Swedish (in Swedish language) sites so far, you sound paranoid! You have already excluded immigrant tax payers from your list. Is it just Swedes, who build Sweden and Swedes, who pay tax, not any immigrant or refugee?

Where did you learn your history?
00:51 April 22, 2011 by Bostonexpat
@Jostein ...if you actually believe no harm was intended by the groups' actions then I have some land up north I'd like to sell you. Regardless of if this guy is a professional complainer or not, this was a stupid and insensitive act ...shall we joke about the recent tsunami(?)
08:52 April 22, 2011 by darky
Is it today you know that most swedes are racist? So stop complaining for its the norm in sverige.
09:05 April 22, 2011 by rise
BOO HOO!! Call for the mourners who are on duty for the day!
09:38 April 22, 2011 by jostein
00:51 April 22, 2011 by Bostonexpat

From an radiointerview with the kurator at hallands nation. My guess is that part of the explanation is these entitlement strategies used by CRM and other heavily state funded "antir racist" outfits. They lobby hard to put more about the transatlantic slavetrade into schoolbooks and to pump up the miniscule swedish participation in it to inflated levels. Once you ram it into the heads of kids, they gonna play around with it? Obviously?

And noone have yet answered my question if you would have been as insulted if 3 people came as thralls in a viking dress up party?

00:47 April 22, 2011 by skatty

Listen, whatever discrimmination there is is not discrimmination against, it is discrimmination for. It is simply the way humans are made. Like, how many blond non muislim blondes do you think are employed by the local mosque? Etcetera. People group themselves ethinically. And, as i said in an earlier post, just like dalai lama im an ethninationalist. Ie, i care about my fellow swedes. I care nothing for those that have come here as colonizers. But i guess you are american so maybe it is to much to ask that you understand the situation of indigineous people. Us swedes will be destroeyed as a people within one generation. Two, maximum.
10:01 April 22, 2011 by gherhardt
For those of you who defend any Racist acts: what would you call a man who defends another man's right to have sex with his own daughters???

This illustration fits Racism as well-- for it has never been right to do it, even if it was claimed as harmless or overreaction by some in society, and it is deplorable and despicable to practice it... of to defend it.
11:29 April 22, 2011 by cowboykodp

From all the wonderful teachings of the Dalai Lama you managed to only pick up the notion of "ethnonationalist"? At least spell it correctly.

Were you and your Nazi posse born morons, or did it take hard work?

It reminds me of the story of the three blind men encountering an elephant for the first time;

The first one touches the tail and says; this animal is like a snake, it is thin and long.

The second touches the tusk and says; this animal is like fish. It is cold and smooth.

The third touches the leg and says; this animal is not an animal but rough like a tree.

So you see Mr. Goebbels, you are just a blind man who is hanging out with other blind men.

Yes, all cultures have prejudices, but for the most part Swedes are not racists. That is why unlike you, they are appalled by these acts. So, do everyone a favor and stop trying to speak for "Swedes", or "Europeans". We are disgusted by people like you.
13:15 April 22, 2011 by jostein
11:29 April 22, 2011 by cowboykodp

So, for resisting being colonized and the destruction of my country im a nazi? Talk about being a bigot!

I reiterate, some students going to a dress up party and choosing a less than tastefull costume is what this is about. The reaction and the media really are beyond sanity in this. Cant you see how warped it is? Cant you put things into perspective? It even reached Brussels for crying out loud.

The picture decorating this article was made by an "artist" that specialize in provocation, apparently. By putting it on the frontpage, whose errands are thelocal running?
15:07 April 22, 2011 by Rick Methven
@jostein "Cant you see how warped it is?"

We can see how warped you are that you can still defend the action of the students and the poster maker Dan Park is a nasty Nazi who previously put a tin can marked ZYKLON-B outside a synagogue.
15:44 April 22, 2011 by jostein
Use a qoute to show where i defend it? I put it in perspective?

Also, why is thelocal publishing one of his "works" on the frontpage? Isnt that inciting hatered? Giving him a platform?

If the world wasnt full of selfrighteus pompus fools just itching to give voice to their ingrained "holier than thou" lusts this would have stayed on campus, where it belonged.
16:08 April 22, 2011 by laura ka baal
Viking must look at their past alo, as for all the "Immigrants" be it from any countrey its a lesson the only way to teach them a lesson is educate yourself enter their system like in UK/ USA where all the britishers/Americans are bound to live with the immigrants, Education is the best weapon,doctor/Engineers police, As if IT has been captured these white pigs have started calling the black USA president sir, do it here also in sweden,learn,learn,learn and learn educate yourself and enter their system we are not far away.
16:27 April 22, 2011 by skatty

From some few comments, I think you are not the only person, who believes it's ridicules to see the news about a student party from Lund in the Brussels. Some students just wanted to have a cool funny party, and look at it now! Just for a little naughty joke! Anxiety, so fast, so far news can reach!

As a matter of fact in the last decade, many Swedes have been worried about spread of these kinds of information about Sweden, because it was unusual before to hear such kind of news about Sweden in Europe. It doesn't mean that every thing worked perfectly before, and there were not any discrimination and racial problems in Sweden, but information couldn't reach so fast and effective around the world.

You see internet is just an instrument; the important thing is the news itself and the people, who make the news. When the news of a student party in Lund reach to Brussels, it is because of the driving force to spread this news, it's because of layers of disappointment, discrimination, dissatisfaction in the years, which makes Swedes wonder what is going on with refugees and immigrants who suppose to be appreciated, happy, thankful, and proud of living in Sweden!

So, if there is deafness in Sweden, then let find listener in Brussels, and if not in Brussels then somewhere else! Then may be someone would be able to figure out, why some kind of news spread faster, and some others not!
16:48 April 22, 2011 by jostein
16:27 April 22, 2011 by skatty

Well, tactically, im happy about these people are running to Brussels.

Wouldnt it be funny if Brussels would start regulating which costumes are allowed on student parties and which are not allowed?

Such silliness would help the cause.
19:22 April 22, 2011 by mkvgtired
"Wouldnt it be funny if Brussels would start regulating which costumes are allowed on student parties and which are not allowed?"

Don't put it past them. They did regulate the shape of strawberries (and other fruit) for the longest time.
10:46 April 23, 2011 by technoviking
@ Laura ka Baal

Spoken like a nasty, ungrateful parasite.

Funny how you can't manage your home "system" and have to run to ours...

Don't get too comfortable. The "white pigs" haven't rolled over yet.

You may be in for some big surprises.
14:47 April 23, 2011 by wenddiver
Immigration, the offer of one people to come and become a part of another people is probably the nicest act in the history of mankind. Where we run into trouble is when Governments send mixed signals and imply that the new group is going to be allowed to come here and burn cars, attack police, rape women and threaten/kill members of other religions. This may be the norm on the continet of Africa, but in Northern Europe and the US, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia the immigrant's sucess is diectly measured by his ability to fit in and not act like a Communist or a bone through the nose cannibal or Jihaddi out to murder his hosts children. Telling lies about your host to foreign governments in Brussels will hardly endear you to the Locals. Your sucess is totally in your own hands, if you call the people who feed and house your oppressed self "White Pigs", don't be surprised if they lose patience with you.

It is the immigrants job to make himself a valued member of the community and not the host to adopt to him. Anybody offended by the Local Swedes should continue on to another country.

I apoligize to the Swedes for this ungrateful behavior, and as a Nation of Immigrants (the US), would like to point out that historicaly immigrants have not been so ungrateful.
14:56 April 23, 2011 by zb78
OK, no doubt that it was very stupid and tasteless joke, but the whole case is quite overarated. Some stupid students, give them a kick in the ass, then forget...believe me, it's far not the worst thing that happens in a student party:)

btw, it's funny that anything against non-western people is considered as "racism", but if they say or do something against "white" people, it's only "freedom of speech"...
16:26 April 23, 2011 by jostein
14:47 April 23, 2011 by wenddiver

Im not sure the american indians would agree with you ;) But seriously, thats what its starting to feel like here in sweden.
18:45 April 23, 2011 by wenddiver
@jostein- Actually the American Indian supports my point, all the people moving to the US and adopting the culture of the English made them immigrants. All those people coming from Europe and adopting the the culture of the English within the American Indians lands made them unwanted invaders.
19:14 April 23, 2011 by Smiling Canuk
@jostein & wendiver

Its always amusing to hear Euros speak on our behalf. But then I'm a Canadian Indian, not an American one. I'd be surprised if either of you had ever even met a N.A. aboriginal. What happened to us could be a lesson to Europe in regards to mass immigration however.

As for this incident - very bad taste, but it would never have happened if such a big fuss hadn't been made in the first place.
20:04 April 23, 2011 by jostein
I am not speaking on your behalf, my comment was merely a mild critique of wenddivers sympathetic post. The value of immigration is in the eye of the beholder, as it were. It was also sortof a questionmark, the european nationstate is a world apart from the new world. There will be rivers of blood before sweden (or any other european nationstate) is turned into an american style colonistsociety. At least that is my guess, from what i understand of us humans and of history. Right now our society is suspended in mid air, by rethorics alone as it were. It will come crashing down in the near future, one way or the other. I give it 20 years, tops.

I did meet a swedish gal whose father was a canadian indian. Her father was a bit of a loser/drifter (noone knew where he was, last seen in like california as a constructionworker) but his people welcomed her with warmth and gladness and it made a world of difference to her. It was a grace to hear her story.

When i was a kid i obsessed over indians and their great leaders in the breaking period, men such as tecumsche (alas i never read about canadian indians). Obviously it was from a boys perspective but all the books i read then i still remember and it is part of my outlook, matured like. Stories you hear as a child change when you yourself grow and change. So i know a little bit and heard a little bit. Thanx for your friendly comment, even if we do not agree totally.
23:05 April 23, 2011 by technoviking
What IS interesting is how the on this thread, and throughout the Local for that matter, people like @Laura ka Baal, @Overcompensating Black Man and assorted other radical overtly racist immigrants who openly voice their hatred for the white devils who pay for their new lifestyle improvements get no flak from the typical tolerance police trolls who scan the threads looking for new people to call "Nazis"...

As always, tolerance is only supposed to go one way. "Whites" must be tolerant. Immigrants are free to be as intolerant as they like.

That said, we should not be acting like them. Sadistically racist BS like this brings us down to their level. Stop defending it. It is pointless, stupid and cruel.

If you want them out, do it thoughtfully, methodically, rationally and politely hand them their visa expirations along with a one way ticket home through the ballot box. No idiotic name calling is necessary.

That is the only solution.
02:27 April 24, 2011 by Njal
One might also consider the possibility that our respective 'governments' wanted large groups of people who were different in all ways from the host countries' people, for the intentional purpose of keeping us at odds with one another, diverting our attention.

I know it sounds a bit like conspiracy theory (hate that phrase), but that certainly would divide the people.

Agreed with technoviking about cancelling their visas thru' voting, well said.
05:56 April 24, 2011 by Tom Dundee
The view of the slave trade that is presented here is one of the greatest frauds in history.

By AD 870 Muslim Arabs controlled the African slave trade and the trade went east to China with 'black ivory'. Who controlled most of Spain, part of France and all of North Africa and threatened the Byzantine Empire at this time. Muslim Arabs.

In the 1500s when the Europeans began buying slaves, they brought them from Muslim Arab slave traders who captured the African Blacks and transported them to the coast for the whites.

In the 1800s, the Islamic Barbary States were raiding Europe for white slaves as far north as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Scotland, and Ireland. This does not even take into consideration the millions of of Eastern Europeanwhites captured over the centuries by the Islamic armies.

At the end of the Napoleonic Wars the several European nations invaded parts of Africa to stop the slave raids on Europe. They had pretty much ended slavery when these countries gained their independence. Upon independence slavery began again and today there are more slaves in the world than at any time in history. Anyone want to guess who still profits from the slave trade in African Blacks? Muslim Arabs.

White Europeans and their descendants in the US and Canada need to stop apologizing.
11:52 April 24, 2011 by SOUTHLONDON

870 AD yes muslims Arabs did have slaves,you must rember that slavery was different to an ARab than a European.

Europe took slavery to a EVIL level,lets just get that right.....READ BOOKS,SEE DOCUMENTARIES................

1500 Europe stole slaves by this time............WEST COAST Africa to USA & EUROPE..............again READ YOUR BOOKS

Napoleonic war......after europe had been built,resources ripped out of africa,countries left in a hole,Europe still had control of many countries after the so -called abolishment of slavery.......AGAIN READ UR BOOKS

I will give you a few establishments in England ALONE that have been FOUNDED on the back of slavery







if u require some more just let me knoThe following countries have been built on slavery,when i mean built on slavery i mean literally economics etc................


12:03 April 24, 2011 by laura ka baal
@ technoviking.

the best part is that you agree you are an immigrant by calling yourself a viking, so the first person to be in that box should be you.
15:07 April 24, 2011 by wenddiver
@Smiling Canuk- My father's Great, Great, Great, Great Grandmother during the American Revolution was a proud daughter of the Native Creek Nation (One of the five civilized tribes- lived in houses, owned slaves, etc., etc.), this can be looked up by searching her husband William August Bowles, Maryland Loyalist, Midshipman Royal Navy, Brigadier General in his Majesty's Army, War Chief and Protector of the Creek Nation, occasional gun runner and pirate according to his most Catholic Majesty of Spain, and Representative of the Muskogee Nation to the Court of St. James. He led the Creek Nations contingent at the Battle of Pensacola, during the American Revolution and was garottd by the Spanish at Morro Castle by the Spanish, rather than work for Spain. With a record like that of course his daughter married into my family who fought on the Patriot side of the Revolution in the Pennsylvania Line, with General Washington. Kids, what can you do with them.
12:52 April 25, 2011 by jostein
11:52 April 24, 2011 by SOUTHLONDON


13:22 April 26, 2011 by SOUTHLONDON
"@ jostein

Your point IS??????????????????

Of all the things you point out WIKIPEDIA, i can go & add things on there.

Not saying that the info is false..

Oil had alot to do with Arabs de-nouncing slavery............

Again Europe took slavery to non human level.

Can you show me or point me in the direction of the Genocide,barbaric,BRutality,Thats physical & mental that the arabs used? (im sure they did,but EUROPE took it to an EVIL LEVEL -

ALL of the countries that i mentioned were built on slavery thats a fact.........

the Arabs states have OIL.................you read & see that when Europe was raping countries the arabs main resource income was OIL..........go read about 1400s - 1900,Arab world vs Europe................
14:07 April 26, 2011 by Rick Methven

So as the Arabs started it, was it OK for Europeans to take it to a higher level?
07:47 April 27, 2011 by jostein

Read the comment i was commenting. Look at the links. Think for a little while. Rewrite your comment.


If you do not dispute the links, muslim expansion into the indian subcontinent caused genocide with tens of millions of deaths. Which is believable if one reads Muhammeds views on polytheists. In that context, and knowing that arab slavery accounted for more african slaves than european slavery, not counting the millions of enslaved Slavics, europeans, indians, i fail to see how you can make the arab slaving any less despicable than european slaving.

What sweden has to do with any of this is veiled in mystery since sweden was a country that hardly took part in the transatlantic slavetrade at all.
08:09 April 27, 2011 by Rick Methven

you are missing my point, let me make it more clear for you

11:04 April 27, 2011 by jostein

You do seem to have a problem with context.

For your benefit:




Southlondon makes an argument. I direct a post at him where i argue against his post.

Your post acted as if i was making a general statement when in fact it was clear i was making a counterargument to southlondons post.

So, let me rephrase my friendly advice, this time with special consideration for you:

Read the comment i was commenting. Look at the links. Think for ALOT for a LONG while. Rewrite your comment.

If you need more help, feel free to ask.
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