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Swedes urged to celebrate 'multicultural' national day

Clara Guibourg · 6 Jun 2011, 12:13

Published: 06 Jun 2011 12:13 GMT+02:00

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Today is Sweden's national day, a public holiday since 2005, and an occasion seized by many to wave the Swedish flag, and perhaps enjoy a plate or two of pickled herring.

Unfortunately, however, the day has also become synonymous with right-wing extremists, as these groups have chosen June 6th to convene in anti-immigrant marches.

In light of this, newspaper Aftonbladet today published an opinion piece penned by journalist Anders Lindblad, defending the multicultural society.

The piece, headlined "Today we celebrate diversity, not stupidity" (Vi firar mångfald idag - inte enfald), criticizes right-wing parties in Sweden for changing the tone of the immigration debate since extreme-right party Sweden Democrats (SD) entered the Riksdag.

Lindblad suggests that these parties are trying to lure SD's voters with a harsher debate of immigration and multiculturalism.

Lindblad is also critical of those promoting assimilation instead of integration, among others conservative think tank Timbro.

"Development and openness are the sources of our success. Not isolation and insularity. In the Sweden of the future, people can celebrate any holidays they like. Including the national day," he writes.

This opinion piece has sparked a great deal of controversy on the newspaper's website, and just hours after publication the site has been flooded with hundreds of comments from readers who accuse Lindblad and Aftonbladet of trying to rob Sweden of its own identity.

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The photograph accompanying the article - a photo montage of a mosque with a Swedish flag waving from the minaret - has been a particular source of aggravation.

Clara Guibourg (clarabara@hotmail.com)

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Your comments about this article

13:10 June 6, 2011 by calebian22
It is rather pathetic that one is a racist if one is patriotic on any other day than the 6th of June or at international sporting events. That is pc bs.
13:40 June 6, 2011 by Scorch
Celebrate Sweden, not diversity.

Seriously look at Norway. If the Swedes would celebrate like they do, they would be branded as racists.

And why would Aftonbladet put a christian symbol on a mosque?
14:24 June 6, 2011 by Syftfel
So, this is what it's come to? You wave your flag with pride , and your a racist. Sad. He really did succeed. Didn't he? That vile sewer rat, palme. aftonbladet really is only good for paper at the outhouse!
15:15 June 6, 2011 by Zeffanyx
Swedes don't have to be neither racists nor moderate right-wing folks in order to get rid of african/asian crime folks.

Say, crime rate among non-european communities is very high and so swedes can arrest and expel all those folks easily.

Again, they have to be pushed out of the country not because of their race or religion, but simply according to the current (!) law. The problem is that swedes are weak and fearful, thus they couldn't defend themselves from that fake "multiculti".
16:50 June 6, 2011 by Eric abrahamsson
racist people are sick i can hate human being
17:23 June 6, 2011 by Great Scott
This should be looked at as what it says it is, Sweden's national day. It has nothing to do with race, colour or creed. The flag is Sweden's flag, it is blue and yellow. What on earth does it have to do with anything but Sweden, it is the country that is being celebrated nothing else. And please no more stupid comments Syftfel.
17:29 June 6, 2011 by MarkinBoston
When did they change the name of the country to 'Multiculture?'
17:29 June 6, 2011 by philster61
If I am in Sweden I will celebrate Sweden's national day. If I am in Pakistan I will celebrate their national day. If I were ever to be in Saudi Arabia(most unlikely) then I would celebrate chop chop day or whatever day they celebrate. I live by the saying. "When in Rome"..... Others would also do best to live by the same thing.....
19:20 June 6, 2011 by Iraniboy
This is Sweden, if any of you guys who post here got sick of this you can now buy a return ticket back to the US and get rid of Sweden because this is actually what Sweden is!

In Sweden there is nothing which is considered BAD, no lifestyle is bad no matter how weird it looks. The only bad thing is 'not tolerating other's! Unfortunately some of US, UK and European immigrants fails to understand this so they get sick in Sweden!
19:41 June 6, 2011 by lovaspappa
Wow. Seems like many of these comments represent some really dissatisfied transplants. Sweden seems to be moving in a multicultural direction whether it likes it or not and, whew!, boy are you immigrants all in a snit! Seems like a clear cut case of if you don't like it then GTFO! My guess is you're not gonna do that. Best get used to it then cuz there ain't nothin' you can do about it. Good luck!
19:43 June 6, 2011 by helveeta
@Iraniboy, get a job, contribute to the system then you can talk. All of us from the US are paying Swedish taxes unlike you so STFU. We also have experience in how immigration and integration don't work.
19:47 June 6, 2011 by lovaspappa
And let's not forget that most of Sweden's culture is more borrowed than anything else. Common knowledge that the meatballs are from Turkey. Heck, half of the words out of their mouths these days are Americanisms, that great multicultural wasteland. And what, you folks think Bernadotte is a Swedish name? And the King mixing it up with some good old-fashioned Brazilian/German/Nazi stock doesn't help the old purity of Swedish culture thing. I've seen Sylvia proudly call herself svartskalle. Oh my. At least she's not mooching off us taxpayers, right?
19:48 June 6, 2011 by Brtahan
watch this : https:// www .youtube .com /watch?v=HKKnFwaGJoM& , but still a racist will always be one , it doesnt matter where he is from.
19:49 June 6, 2011 by helveeta
Let me correct myself before some idiot tries to. "Mass" immigration is what doesn't work, which is what's going on and is upsetting everyone.
19:53 June 6, 2011 by Swedesmith
It is Swedish national day, so celebrate Sweden. Raise the blue and gold, här fika, eat some herring and enjoy all things Swedish.
19:56 June 6, 2011 by Rick Methven
My wife and I went out for a national dag lunch. after the celebrations at gamla Stan

We had a great Mongolian BBQ at a Vietnamese restaurant
19:57 June 6, 2011 by wenddiver
@ Iraniboy- no lifestyle is bad no matter how weird it looks.

As ussual wrong again. Thankfully, you are at least starting to admit that these people are weird.

Oddly enough I like the idea of the Swedish Flag should be at the top of the minarette. In fact it should be the law tat all Mosques, Minarettes, Churches and Synaqoques fly the Flag of Sweden from their highest point on the National Day.

@Sweden-Congratulations on your National Day!!! Many more from the US.
20:01 June 6, 2011 by Brtahan
HAhaha you all are talking as if its your country or you are born here , 99 procent of you haters in this forum are foreigners and the rest of them who are swedish are uneducated swedes who blame everything on others . so you dont you all occupy ur hands in somethings more usefull than writing stupied comments who doesnt make sense , look out of the bubble , foreign labour is doing shitty jobs which swedes wouldnt do. People should respect each other on both sides , as long as they not harming any one. Thats right @Swedesmith, enjoy instead of using negative energies.
20:40 June 6, 2011 by jimthat
so we have again these clowns looking for a new step on invading sweden

i think that if they cannot mix their non white races whith the swedes then they change the colour of their hair and get surgery of the nose to look more occidental

they are getting to a stage of real desperation to be accepted for getting their so beloved racial integration and endly mix to us

they look as pathetic beggars

desperate to be accepted
20:42 June 6, 2011 by jomamas
It is a lie that 'foreign labour' does jobs that Swede's won't do.

Anyone with basic econ with recognize the benefits, conditions and wages of these jobs would rise until Swedes would do them.

Moreover - sacrificing your entire culture and heritage because you don't want to clean the toilet is shameful.

I grew up in Mississauga Canada, where we had 'mass immigraiton'. There is nothing remotely Canadian remaining in Mississauga, pop. 700 000.

If you keep up mass immigration, there will be no more Sweden.
20:51 June 6, 2011 by Swedesmith
@Brtahan and I say the same unto you, my brother.
21:05 June 6, 2011 by jimthat
then what is multiculturalism?

is it swede ? or even european?


is an immigrant invention

their key argument to legalize the invasion

30 years ago nobody would have recognized the word

its all post iimmigration

it sounds funny because a culture is particular to a country its race and customs

so is a farse

i would like to know how much do they pay or what they get the swedes that so silently back them
21:23 June 6, 2011 by Syftfel
""Multi-cultural" national"...??? If anyone needs a textbook definition of "orwellian double speak", this is it. Aftonlatrinen demonstrates it on a daily basis! And Rick, if you want Mongolian and Vietnamese, June 6th is not the day to do it. We Swedes eat pickled herring and ham on this day.
21:29 June 6, 2011 by Swedesmith
With all due respect, Syftel, Rick has every right to eat whatever he wants to today. That's because Sweden has many fundamental human rights. That's a cause for celebration! May it ever be so...
21:31 June 6, 2011 by TheOriginalBlackMan
Please allow more people who are not inbred come into this country, since, after taking a walk tody over the "Lilla bron" in Sodermalm today I was totally disapointed at the fringe of humanity that I observe. Women who look like men, bad peroxide jobs, men who act like women (A fact).

As for the holiday, okay, It was a day off for some people. A bank holiday some of my "girls" call it. Nothing too significant to add after that. Maybe the "Swedes" can declare we are safe as long as America stays in "power" 10 times during this day. Other than that who cares.

Also, the borders are made up people and since so called "white" people are the last and least human of all people on the earth, they need to shut up with if you don't like it leave nonsense.
22:00 June 6, 2011 by planet.sweden

"so called "white" people are the last and least human of all people on the earth"

Oops he's back again, Africa's very own answer to Joseph Goebbels.

But listen chicken sh.#t head you never did explain why it was you left the US with its large black population and back president yo come and live in Sweden?

Given your hatred of white people in general and Swedes in particular it seems bizarre to say the least.

But heh I have a theory, you're here for the benefits.

Yep, somewhere on the parasite grapevine you heard of this place called Sweden, where the indigenous people had worked hard, created a decent soceity and a welfare system to care for one another in times of trouble. But the word was among parasites that with global air travel, and a suitably grovelling demeanour on arrival you could bury yourself inside the Swedish welfare system and feed off it, for nothing.

So here you are.

But like the e-coli virus currently ravaging Europe you mark a new and virulent strain of parasite, one not seen before. For whereas most parasites have the brains to thank their lucky stars they made it in, your're actually dumb enough to continually savage and wish dead the organism upon which you're feeding, without realising that if it dies, so do you. Or to put it another way, try living off benefits in Ghana, or the US for that matter. Get it?
22:21 June 6, 2011 by Iraniboy

I have job and I pay tax. Teh main difference between me and you is that I don't think by paying tax I become eligible to decide for Sweden and Swedes. This is how they like to run their country,. Your bad experience of your home country should be left there. Like I said before you only fail to understand the red lines if average Swedes.


Since when you became Swedish? Well, I respect your claim. the next step is to accept the idea of the majrority of Swedes and stop enforcing your bigoted ideas on the majority of Swedes.


Instead of looking at comment sections which has about 10 persons posting all the time, try to look at voting results to get the idea of Swedes thoughts!

By the way even you bigoted Xenophobic guys are also welcome in Sweden but I don't know why you remain here if you feel sick of these things. A normal person should avoid things that make him sick :D
22:25 June 6, 2011 by GLO
Multi-suacide Day. Just say no to this crap, sorry its bad for Sweden and your future!!!!! Just NUTS!!!!!!!
22:50 June 6, 2011 by Tusker
Photograph in Aftonbladet of Swedish flag on Minaret, of Mosque is correct. But, under instruction of Immam, the flag must be below the Crescent on the spire. Nation must always be below, the true belief.You who can still think, take notice of this fact.
22:52 June 6, 2011 by JackTheReaper

Off late I noticed you started praising the Swedish system a lot!! May be in your subconscious mind you become a Swede? Or shall I say an aspiring Swede???

Never mind! I am not an american :-)
22:58 June 6, 2011 by jacquelinee
Calm down people. This is Sweden. It is their national day. They should fly the Swedish flag and be proud of their Swedish heritage, it is a good country. There are flaws, as it is with every country and all humanity, but it stil is a great country to live and raise a family. We are in a time in existence when borders do not have the permanance or significance they once did. Modern travel, the internet, the media (ie TV) have perpetuated this movement and the acceleration of this. It is inevitable...eventually we will live in a blended world. It is important for people to maintain their heritages and identities with pride, but with respect and acceptance of the differences. Integration ensures the survival of the human species. Human beings have the innate ability to "reason and think" themselves into stupidity. A dalmation will have no problem living with a poodle or even being bred with a poodle for that matter, THEY ARE BOTH DOGS! Bizzare how humans can't get that. Swedes , let me put your fears to rest. The most current census I could find was for Nov. 2010. At that time 8 082 241 of the population were Swedish ethnicity and 1 330 610 were other ethnicities. Of these, nearly 5.0% were Finns, .88% were assyrian, Norwegian, Croats, Albanians, Serbs, Lebanese, Turks, Iraqis, Iranians compromised .5% respectively (total = 4.0%) Romas were .4% Lappish, Estonians, Chilean, Greeks, Somalis stood at .1% respectivelt (total = 5%) and 3.0% were undeclared. This hardly seems worthy of the mass hysteria I keep reading and hearing about. Wave the Swedish Flag high and be proud. It should be flown every day. We are in Sweden. All it's inhabitants should be able to fly it proudly and gratefully for the opportunities that exist here. If they have moved here, they should also fly both the flag of Sweden, their new country and the flag of their old country proudly beside it if they want, to remind them of what was once their homeland before Sweden became their childrens.
23:07 June 6, 2011 by Uncle
What is ridiculous is that the most "multicultural" and open minded on this forum are the muslims.

I really do not get it. Muslims are the LEAST "multicultural" gathering in the world. And yeah, it is a religion, not a culture, but this religion eradicates and melts every part of any culture in everyone it meets and replaces it.

Islam suppresses other cultures by definition. It fights other cultures until there is nothing left, but the rules of Allah and dead corpses. What is left of the Somalian culture? Where is the northern african heritage in these lands? Where are the pagan traditions? Where is the respect of the female?

What muslim country has minority that does not have to defend itself on a constant basis? Lebanon? Egypt? Sudan? Pakistan? Where are there no limitations on religious practice? Even the Far East ones (which buddhist traditions were ripped and burned) have certain special rules for the "dhimmi".

Where are there large groups of muslims that "leave in peace" with the non-muslim brothers? China? Phillipines? Chad? Thailand? India?

The most non-tolerant, non-assimilating, non-"multiculture" promoting people are posing themselves as the avant guard of the European philosophy of freedom for all. Until they are a lot of people that is...

When the critical mass is reached, all of a sudden, exposed hair of local females is insulting them, national flags with anything but the crescent on them are harming their sensitive souls and males who dare to date other males are declared suitable for death. All of a sudden drinking alcohol in bars is hurting their high morals and dogs who guide blind people all of a sudden cannot enter a taxi.

All of a sudden, they want their own "singlecultural" schools, banks and tv shows.

Freaking joke...
23:13 June 6, 2011 by helveeta
@Iraniboy, I have a hard time understanding your English. I don't think that because I pay taxes here I can decide for Sweden and Swedes. My children are half Swedish and this is their history that their great grandparents built not yours. I have a great interest in their future and don't want it all flushed down the toilet by people like you!
00:12 June 7, 2011 by mir81
Helveeta ...... Use common sense u will b able to understand Iraniboy English .

and yes Language is a skill Iraniboy can speak English so vat if its good or bad but understandable I bet u r unable even to speak a single word of his mother language

your comment is proving most of Americans are dump
00:44 June 7, 2011 by helveeta
Your comment makes you sound dumber than Iraniboy, LMFAO!
00:51 June 7, 2011 by mir81
helveeta ....... Its your superiority complex
01:08 June 7, 2011 by swedejane

"your comment is proving most of Americans are dump"

And your comment proves what you are beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Anyway, people really need to relax and get a broader view of things. While "multicultural national day" doesn't really roll off the tongue, I think the point is that to celebrate national day is to really embrace an idea. The idea that people with different perspectives and points of view, of different talents and strengths and weaknesses, can live together and thrive together. America, despite its innumerable flaws that get catalogued daily by the world, is an example of this. To say anyone not white enough or christian enough doesn't belong in your country is to put yourself and the next generation at a great competitive disadvantage.

I congratulate my swedish friends on this day for a great country and a great society they have created here. In a world with many examples of intolerance, sweden provides a great example of how many nations *should* be.
01:08 June 7, 2011 by Kaethar
And the racists and xenophobes come out of hiding again. I agree with the author of the article that xenophobes should not be allowed to hijack our national day. I disagree with him however when he says that multiculturalism should be celebrated during this day. So what do we have here? An article I mostly disagree with. But do I care? No. Lindblad is not the voice of authority in my life. It's HIS PERSONAL OPINION. That some people can't accept this fact just shows how closed-off and full of hatred they truly are.

I see the national day as a time for celebrating my Nordic heritage. I visited the Royal castle and went on many museum tours to learn about our royal history. I listened to choirs singing Swedish folk songs and waved as the Royal family drove by. Then I finished the night off with some clearly non-Swedish food and a concert (the horror!) This is how I decided to celebrate our national day. If someone wanted to go and see the Swedish/Somali exhibition then GOOD FOR THEM. I don't give a damn what others do, nor should anyone else.

01:17 June 7, 2011 by Tusker
When I can take Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian,and other Muslim girls out on a date, with totally respectful behaviour, then I will know their families have accepted they are living in a different, but acceptable culture.Till then, they remain the brainwashed Hajji savages they are.
01:24 June 7, 2011 by philster61
Iraniboy probably wishes he was was European. But its obvious from the stupidity in his comments that he isn't. He is no doubt like the rest of the "multiculturalists" . He comes to Europe. Gets all the benefits from the system, exploits it no end, thinks he knows better, hell, even believes he is one of us. But.....he isn't.. he never will be.... he will always be an outsider....... he doesn't understand the European history. Nor does he understand the long relationship Europe has with the US...He doesn't understand that the US was founded by Europeans, not Arabs, Sweden has far more in common with the US than the Arab world.

As David Cameron recently said. Multiculturalism does not work. If only Sweden would realize this.
02:54 June 7, 2011 by StuartM
I don't see the point of this story in The Local. Any article about immigration in Aftonbladet or elsewhere is bound to get spammed by the SD's internet warriors who have nothing better to do with their time than spout racist, xenophobic crap. A few hundred idiots are not representative of the Swedish population as a whole who generally continue to be open and tolerant towards people from different cultures. I do think that too much of an emphasis on multiculturalism can be dangerous if it leads to minorities being further isolated inside ethnic ghettos but the answer is certainly not more racism and intolerance which can only hinder integration and foster a sense of grievance and social exclusion.
06:14 June 7, 2011 by calebian22

No doubt you will be surprised when the Sweden Democrats reach double digit percentages next time around. People are sick of multicultural bs and fortunately that number is growing. People want borders. People want Sweden to remain at the pinnacle,as an example of a socialized system. Socialized systems only work when the population is homogenous and most importantly of the same mind. Multiculturalism kills socialism. Don't take my word for it look at history or current events. Try to find an example of a successful multicultural socilized system today or in history. Good luck with that.
06:48 June 7, 2011 by TheOneWhoTravels
Why on earth would anyone celebrate "multiculturalism" on SWEDEN day??? Celebrate Sweden and traditional Swedish values & culture on SWEDEN day, and be damn straight PROUD of it! NO APOLOGIES!

07:19 June 7, 2011 by TheOriginalBlackMan

No, I receive no benefits from the so called Swedish people, indeed, I employ one. Also, why is it that when someone states the truth you immedialtely start claiming that they are "welfare recipients". Get over yourself and your delusional view of the world.

(What I do is called "Macking", look it up. And yes I have a huge amount of so called you know what. wink!)

As I was saying before, if one was to look down when flying over Sweden they will see no line distinquishing it from any other area of the earth. The only thing that breaks up land masses is water. Not any imaginary line made up by some so called white people.

Also, white people are not indegenous to ANY area in the world. Stop spreading mis-information. So called white people are the mutant inbred albino offspring of African people, who have only been on this earth for at the most 50,0000 years while the African,i.e. complete human has been around for at least 3,000,000.
07:25 June 7, 2011 by Kublai
Every country should celebrate it's own Nationalday and not some shitty multiculturalism (and I don't understand why they insist calling islam multiculture). Islam belongs in a cesspit together with nazism and communism. And all you brainless apologists here can leave this country and go to Saudi-Arabia or some other shithole if you think islam is so much better than our way of life. F--k you!
08:08 June 7, 2011 by technoviking
@ overcompensating black man

Still won't answer why he lives in Sweden and not the Congo or Nigeria, huh?

Perhaps a few years living in Africa with actual native black people instead of surrounding himself with educated, productive white Swedes would change his mind.

But that would mean giving up all the amenities of the white man's world...

Is it so demeaning living in advanced white civilizations that you have to believe your racial propaganda to retain some semblance of an ego?

Transparent and sad. Fortunately you couldn't be more harmless or impotent.

Don't worry, you are not genetically inferior either. Now enjoy the medicine, computers, technology etc. we've invented.
08:38 June 7, 2011 by sfk
@ Uncle

What a hatred of this!!!!

Tell me a single european countries (i.e. English, Italy.... even Sweden) which did not exploit the other nations... And today the country (USA), which many people are praying, killing the other nations and taking their culture and their resource...

Before giving this kind of strong comment for anything read the history of roman church and christianity...
09:17 June 7, 2011 by StuartM
@ Calebian

I see no reason why immigration and tolerance for other cultures is a threat to the welfare state. Immigrants keep some of our most important public services running and will likely be required even more so in the decades ahead in order to care for Sweden's ageing population. There are certainly legitimate concerns among the trade union movement about social dumping bringing down wages but that could quite easily be solved by tightening labour regulations and making sure all workers have the same pay and working conditions regardless of where they come from. I'm not against borders and protecting national sovereignty but I think the main threat to these is the EU (together with global financial institutions like the IMF). Why not challenge economic globalisation and the powerful corporate interests it serves instead of putting the blame on migrants from the third world who are either fleeing persecution or simply looking for a better life for themselves and their families?
09:20 June 7, 2011 by imnokuffar
When you are dealing with an ideology like Islam normal western paradigms that is a set of assumptions, concepts, values, and practices that constitutes a way of viewing reality for the community that shares them, especially in an intellectual discipline is not sufficient to cope.

Why is this ?

Because Islam is based on a completely different set of assumptions and principles.

The main difference is that for a Muslim everything comes from Allah including jurisprudence, property law, womans rights, attitudes towards homosexuality, relations with the Jews, relationships toward the Kuffar - that is you and me. In fact everything is dictated by the Koran. There is no seperation between church and state.

And as the Koran is the unadulterated word of God it cannot be altered or gainsaid as to do so would be apostasy or heresy. Those Muslims that have tried this have been shunned or killed.

This would not be a problem if these assumptions and principles were somehow similar to those of us in the west.

However they are not and never will be. The search for moderation in Islam is like searching for the Unicorn. Whilst it is true that there are "moderate Muslims" there is no moderate Islam. And moderate Muslims are only moderate whilst they are in a minority something our politicians had better take on board for all our sakes.

According to one source %84 of the Koran is taken up with issues relating to non-Muslims and how to deal with or relate to them. This makes the Koran a book that deals in blueprints for conquering the non-believers.

And the Muslims have been successfully using the methods set out to conquer and destroy non-Muslim civilisations for 1400 years. On this point there can be doubt. Most of the presently constituted Muslim lands were conquered by the sword, their inhabitants enslaved, their cultures ruined and the remaining peoples made to convert or to accept Dhimmi status. The Christians, Zoroastrians, Animists and Jews all suffered this fate.

It is also interesting to note that there is not one fully functioning Muslim democracy in the whole of the middle east.

This is the nub of the question; can Britain or Europe remain as democratic, free nations with Islam in the ascendant ?

The answer has to be no.

The only question remaining is what are we going to do about i
09:42 June 7, 2011 by Puddi
I don't have a nicer way to say this, but: reading these comments make me lose all faith in humanity. Honestly, what planet do some of you come from? First of all, if you're born on American soil: you would do good to realise that Sweden is a socialist utopia, always has been and that is exactly why the country thrives today! It's because of their laws that encourage or even enforce openness and equality. This clashes with the American ideal of "fairness": for many of them, you deserve to get more if you, for some reason, are entitled to it through means of prestigious universities, well-connected jobs or simply through heritage.

Sweden does not work that way, and I am thankful for that. Yes, there ARE problems with immigration, but only so many. I PhD in media-related effects on public opinion, but you don't have to get even the most basic schooling to learn to be a bit critical about the media: 20 years ago, commies were the scapegoats; with the fall of this ideology in Europe and Russia, the Western world needed someone new to put the blame on. An attack on American soil (9/11) was all that it took; do notice that ever since that day, almost ALL of the European countries are taking, or have already, a strong course for right politics. Do you really think we just had that many more immigrants the last decade? No, because before we were flooded by many other immigration groups (Turks, Moroccans, Italians, Albanians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Iranian ) the list goes on) before and nobody gave a damn. Sure you had the hardcore racists, but they are needed to keep the balance.

What I'm saying is this: don't believe everything the media tells you. By now, many of you (especially commenting on this article) have already been primed into thinking negatively whenever a foreign name appears in the newspaper. So let me ask those people who are so furious about this Aftonbladet article then: did they also read the item on (serial) killers who are being released within 20 to 30 years? If I recall correctly, the large majority (if not ALL) were Swedish. But the media is hardly going to say "there were no immigrants involved" as that would imply they expected this exact thing. See what the paradox here?

So please, for the love of god, do yourself a favor and stop being a brainless zombie and form your own opinion. Globalism is the future, whether you like it or not; you can, as a country, stay behind but not forever. Look at Switzerland, which used to be the free country of the world - it has arguably the most racist politicians in Europe. And trust me, the growing economies as Brazil, China and India are on our economic doorsteps, so a small country like Sweden would be powerless without its immigrants and without the EU.
09:54 June 7, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ uncle As far as your comment (#50) for once Uncle, I agree with you whole heartedly. The history of Christianity is written in blood, right from it's inception. Most organized religions have a history of violence. Remember, we are NOT talking about faith in this respect, we are talking about organized religion...HUGE difference. Faith is a pure thing, religion is for the most part corrupt as it too is a form of governing people. We ALL can agree governments are corrupt to a greater or lesser degree. People always fear what they do not know and can not understand. I speak English as my first language, also French and Swedish ( a bit poorly unfortunately) The isolation and fear I felt before I could understand Swedish was new to me when I moved here from Canada(to marry a swede) I understand that language differences can be a huge barrier. I also understand it is comfortable to revert to your native tongue where you have a much larger grasp of the vocabulary and subtle nuances of expression. Fortunately (for me) most swedes speak english so, if they hear me speaking it, they understand for the most part and I am not viewed as an interloper or a threat. Also, my clothing is pretty much the same. When they pass someone in different dress, speaking Mandarin, Arabic or Chinese (to name only a few) it is a natural instinct to be wary of the unknown. I get that. But we are all human no matter where we came from.You can not judge a culture by a blanket view, I.E. all Americans are arrogant, all muslims are muderous welfare recipiants. This is just stupidity. In reverse, to the immigrant people. It is far easier to segregate and continue only speaking our first language and being afraid of the unknown qualities that the new swedish culture represents. But it only makes it more difficult for us and we are understood and accepted less. I am proud to be a English speaking Canadian and I love Canada. It is my homeland. But it is necessary for me to learn to be a new Swede in order to be a valuable asset to my new country and for my own happiness. Everyones homeland holds their heart. It is the place of our youth, but we moved here for a reason. We live HERE now among the Swedish people who have gratiously allowed us to come. We need to think back fondly to our past, BUT embrace Sweden and it's culture. It is our future. I am no longer a Canadian, I am a Swedish Canadian. Just as you are no longer Albanian, Iraqi, Chinese...you are now Swedes as well. Familiarize yourselves as to what this means and be proud you are. We have freedom, we have peace, we are fortunate. And Swedes, embrace us as well. We have things to offer.Remember, you would be ordering only half specials(etc) and not hamburgers or pizza if it were not for the influence of other cultures.
10:45 June 7, 2011 by wenddiver
Do they pay by the letter for sel-righteous posts???

I say leave the Swedes their country and culture, the orld has enough of these international messes without culture or love by their inhabitants. It should be like Star Treks Prime Directive, Aliens can visit, but must not harm the original culture.
12:29 June 7, 2011 by Scambaiter
This thread really is infested with the usual pathetic hotpotch of rabid ex-pat xenophobes and neocon cultural elitists. Online chickens the lot of you.

If you only knew how pathetic you all sounded. It's the same tedious hogwash every time there's an article about Swedish immigration.

Multiculturalism is in Sweden to stay, so you may as well accept it. The vast majority of ethnic Swedes certainly do, and can see the many benefits.

If you come from the US and live in the US, get the hell off this forum and go post on Beck_for_president.com. If you come from the US or other waspish territory, but live in Sweden...if you don't like multiculturalism, get the hell out of Sweden and stop embarrassing the rest of us with your racist BS.

If you come from Sweden, your name is Svensson, you live in the forest and you don't like immigrants then I just feel sorry for you. Every country has its losers. Don't be a hater, go out and make some immigrant friends, educate yourselves like the rest of us. Above all, open your minds.
12:50 June 7, 2011 by karex
@ The OneWhoTravels

My view exactly.
13:55 June 7, 2011 by vb74
Why celebrate a policy that the leaders of England, Germany, France and most regular people admit has failed. I agree that it seemed like a good idea on paper, everybody working towards the same goal. But that is not the reality of the situation. It doesn't seem to very well anywhere and just creates problems.
15:21 June 7, 2011 by philster61
Gee Scambaiter.... Amazing how the Swedish society has opened their minds and doors to people as culturally far removed from Swedish tradition and culture as possible... They come to Sweden and demand this , demand that, demand that their primitive religion gets more respect than it deserves.. Their offspring grow living in culture within a culture. Neither respecting Swedish history, culture law or its people. whilst all the time demanding more and more.....And they neither adjust their thinking to Swedish ways and they are rigid about practicing their backward religion. Most who post here are foreign. Myself included. However I have made every effort to do as good Swedes do. How dare you say that Swedes open their minds when it is those who come here who are in far more need to open their minds.....
16:45 June 7, 2011 by TheOneWhoTravels
Thanks Karex. I guess we are really going to need solidarity on stuff like this if caring people are to truly resist for the long term hyper-politically correct nonsense.
17:49 June 7, 2011 by Rick Methven

Or to resist you our resident racist troll who thinks about travelling
18:01 June 7, 2011 by calebian22

I don't disagree with you on Sweden withdrawing from the EU, in fact that is a great idea. However, the same reasoning applies to withdrawing from the EU as restricting immigration and refugee acceptance. The EU is also a failed multicultural experiment. The priorities of Greece or Italy are not the priorities of Sweden and Finland for example. The EU is not homogenous. It is made up of vastly different cultures,mentalities and proud nationalities that will never come to any lasting agreement. Sweden would have been much better off starting a Nordic union. Why? Because the cultures are not so dissimilar.

The integration problem that Sweden has is just on a smaller scale. I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on that one though.
18:51 June 7, 2011 by technoviking
@ puddi

"Sweden is a socialist utopia"

Hahaha. I don't think anyone's going to read your fantasy dissertation with a start like that...


True that across the board.
19:28 June 7, 2011 by Uncle

That IS the point. All religions WERE violent and using the poor and the miserable. They WERE doing it in the medieval times and long before that. However Islam CONTINUES to do it. Every country that became islamic experienced regression.

They kill people of the same RACE if they feel insulted (murders of UN workers as an answer to koran burning by someone else). They have such a strong racial and religious hierarchy that even the Nazis did not dream of. They still run slaves through their countries and they trade daughters for sheep.

They degrade the lives of everyone they conquer and the only "advances" that they have are in weapons technologies. NOW. Not 900 years a go. But now.

(and funny enough, 900 years a go they also did it).

Considering this acceptable is like seeing a 40 y/o pooping in his pants and consider it "normal" because you also did it as a 5 months old.


You did not get the point. They do not WANT to assimilate with the pig eating christian/jew/buddhist bastards. Not as individuals, but as a mass. They are willing to tolerate you until they reach a critical mass and they they will stop tolerating you.

I wish for nobody to be a member of minority in any given muslim country. I could also give you examples of what demands arise already now in Holland, GB and Germany, but I would be repeating myself again.

As a crowd they think that Sweden as a christian state is an error that shall be fixed with numbers of the true religion members. Integration of muslims is not possible by default, since Islam in simplified essence forbids it. So why work so hard on forcing them into something that will never happen?
21:08 June 7, 2011 by helveeta
@Scambaiter, I would LOVE to meet up with you and have coffee over this discussion, care to join me?
23:41 June 7, 2011 by wenddiver
@Uncle-Considering this acceptable is like seeing a 40 y/o pooping in his pants and consider it "normal" because you also did it as a 5 months old.

Really well said.

@Scambaiter- Please tell me this dribble is part of a deep cover for some extreme rendition program?? Surely no one is that clueless in real life. You are over-acting.

@heelveeta- I think scambaiter considers you a crazy old Svenson, loving Sweden and living in the woods. It is probably safe to order coffee for one.

@Lara Ka Baal- Ho are you not in Gitmo yet?? Are you an informant?
08:25 June 8, 2011 by sfk

Good comment (!) However I am wondering have you ever criticized the American's Invasion in Iraq, in Afghanistan and the UN and EU Members invasion in Libya? Shall we say that they are putting this invasion under cover of the freedom!!! It these are not Christian related, why your EU do not invade spain or Ireland while those people did not have freedom and had to develop their own terrorists for their freedom... The only thing is you have hatred and you have muslim phobia. Try to mange your phobia in staid of direction your phobia to the others...
09:10 June 8, 2011 by wenddiver
@Uncle- Look at the post from SFK, they still don't get it. In Iraq and Afganistan they have blown their best chance at becoming Democracys, by playing this ignorant Martyr game. Look at the Southern half of the US, Germany. Japan, South Korea and Italy. They all lost wars, but they didn't retreat into being cave men. They embraced Freedom and Democracy and their peoples lives are a thousand times better. Anybody want to bet that Iraqi's and Afgans won't be smart enough to pull that off. I'm betting there won't be any decent cars exported from their or Gaza in our life time. Anybody believe the people with rags on their head are not going to sink right back into Dictatorship and supersticion?

The posts coming from the Middle East are as backwards as if they were written by somebody from the year 1400 AD. Are we even sure these primates are classifiable as humans?? Ever have one start telling you about his religion??? Yes, they believe that Mohammed climbed a rope or a rope ladder to heaven, how backwards is that.?

Why should they be kept out of Sweden, because they have used their Fairy tale to turn ever country thry make Islamic to one of the most awful places on earth, the very definition of a den of murdering savages. Why would we abandon Western culture, science and progress for that.
09:29 June 8, 2011 by sfk
@ wenddiver

You are just blind and I will not write more on. Americans are just brain washed socity and some of you too... Why an american tax payers money is spending on the freedom of others... Will you give your money...

.. I am looking forward to stop the oil and other resource war and starting a war on clean water in the world... Wait I am waiting with you too...
09:51 June 8, 2011 by wenddiver
@SFK- I'm sorry I missed your post. I was climbing my rope ladder to heaven. I'm a Prophet now. The Guy at the other end of the ladder said stop killing, if he wanted any Minarettes built, he could do it without waving his finger.

He also wants you to let your Wife use the car, to drive it safely she will not be able to be wrapped up like a crazy person. Your Daughter doesn't have to marry the old Geezer you picked out. He said the Guys collecting money in his name are in Deep Poo.

He has better uses for your kids than killing Airline Stewardesses or blowing themselves up. He wants you to grow a brain like everybody else on the planet, so that when somebody tells you to blow yourself up, you punch the evil piece of Garbage out.

He wants you to go home and tell everybody else this, so that you can build a nice stable Democracy. Once you do this you are going to want to hire a really good Border Patrol, to keep the Crazies out of your country.

He said the US has plenty of clean water, so you might want to export Beer, Automobiles, T-Shirts that say "I'm with Stupid" and fake Ninja Swords instead, because they never get enough of those items.
10:20 June 8, 2011 by Uncle

what is it that you are babbling here about? The last chritian state that engaged into mass murder in Europe got it's arse kicked and it's generals are rotting in graves and prisons. Guess which one? That is right. Serbia.

Irish and Basque terrorists do not kill randomly like your brothers. They do not attack kindergartens, clubs and buses with old ladies. They targeted judges, officers, commandants. Even they are shocked at the muslim behavior and distance themselves from your brothers like from fire.

As for the invasions. I understand that someone is a little bit forgetful why US invaded Afghanistan. A couple of falling buildings… rings a bell? Oh, yeah, right I forgot that Bush killed all of them in order to get oil and stuff… From Afghanistan… that has no oil… but anyways.

As for poor little Iraq. A country that invaded it's neighbors twice, caused death of more than million people and used chemical weapons had it's clock ticking.

And hey, don't forget that the US did a surgical and precise operation of dictator removal. Meanwhile sunnis and shia were happy to kill each other in hundreds of thousands and "write it off" on the invasion. Even muslims admit that they needed Saddam to hold them on chain.

As for Lybia, I do not get it. First of all, the invasion was encouraged and applauded by all the rich muslims who wanted better control of the oil market (they even participate in the bombing). Secondly, the rebel muslims were begging for help there. Thirdly, are you saying that you are FOR mass murder of thousands? Are you supporting it?

Choose one. Whether you say that muslim dictators should be doing their thing undisturbed (and then not moan about "support of dictators from the west"), or stop complaining about invasions. You cannot do both.

@wenddiver. I could not say it better.
14:47 June 8, 2011 by infidel2012
Yeah, Right,

This will never fly here in Sweden. If the Insurgent muslims don't like that Sweden celebrates it's national day, they can ignore it, or better yet, get back to where they once'd belonged. Get back MoMo : )

BTW - I have it on good authority that Rick M. is an employee of The Local.
18:00 June 8, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ EVERYONE, as I said before......

Prejudice exists- it exists in whites, Blacks, Muslim (from all countries), Chinese, North American Indian and on and on. It exists against different religious groups, age groups, Genders, sports teams, social classes, monetary levels, differing neighourhoods, different career orientation, different sexual preferences, the chosen clothing people wear, peoples weight, peoples hair or lack of hair or colour of hair and the list goes on and on... It will never end. It is born from greed, It is born from Jealousy, It is born from fear. Human beings are a warring species. That is NEVER going to change. There is not one of us out there who is not prejudice against someóne for some reason. Even if we were all gold and finacially equal, lived in the same exact demographic etc.we would fight about our eye color or the difference in the straightness of our teeth or our favorite flower or find SOME other thing to focus on. Human are a corrupt species and as individuals, we need to battle daily with this to improve ourselves spiritually (or if you are an atheist, mentally) in order to remove stress, anger, unhappiness etc. But that just is not going to happen with most people because to create an inferiority in another creates a false superiority in yourself...which is PRECISELY what the majority wish to achieve by condeming, degrading and demoralizing others. I'm done..............Going to read a SELF help book.
19:28 June 8, 2011 by Uncle
Is THAT a fact? Mmmm. If that is a fact, I would not hesitate to sue the arse of this newspaper.

If you could substantiate this claim, I would try and figure out the person. Assist him join the ranks of his unemployed brothers and express his solidarity with them through Arbetsförmedlingen.
19:54 June 8, 2011 by Rick Methven
Why not try asking TL if I am employed by them. They will tell you the truth which is NO

You are way way wrong. I have the time to counteract trolls on TL

As I said to tacos/ravioli/Infart, there no need to know the IP address of stupid American trolls, just a quick look at your past posts and you ALWAYS give away your origins. you think you are all so smart but at some point you always let slip.

To be fair to Uncle he has never claimed to be Swedish or in Sweden, other do try and pull the wool over the eyes but always fail within short
21:43 June 8, 2011 by Uncle
Alright... fair enough... I also have a quite good memory for such slips.
07:35 June 9, 2011 by Rick Methven

I do not have access to IP addresses.

You have even admitted that you where outside of Sweden but claimed that you had come back in Sweden.

Your track record as a poster show you up to be just a silly troll just trying to stir up trouble by posting only on topics relating to race or religion and if there is not a current topic, you attempt to hijack any other topic. Your actions eventually get you banned and then you use your great imagination to get a new account with a new name. What really nailed you as troll and just out to stir up trouble, was your Islam4Europe username. making posts as a radical islamist.

As to your IP address being all over the place, you are most probably using a proxy and changing it from time to time to be able to re-register on the site. Most forums such as The Local, block an IP address of a persistent troll, so in order to get back in to troll some more, you have to change your IP.
09:17 June 9, 2011 by cogito
"BTW - I have it on good authority that Rick M. is an employee of The Local"

He certainly seems to believe he is The Local's secret police, implying he has great influence on a "Moderator," and crowing that he gets dissenting posters black-listed.

Yet it seems his own ugly and abusive attacks are never removed.

Self-appointed or TL-appointed doesn't matter. The way he stalks other posters is creepy. .
09:59 June 9, 2011 by wenddiver
@Laura Ka Baal- As an Islamic Prophet now (having climbed the rope up to Al ha ha, I fully support showing off the intelligent posting of Islamic Scholars like yourself.

All lard and Soap Bar!!!!!!! Aeeeyyyy!iiii!!!

Murder monkees unite for higher welfare payments!!!!!!
11:01 June 9, 2011 by Rick Methven

There is a report button that can be used for posts that are in breach of the locals rules, the first of which is:

"are offensive and promote racism, prejudice, hatred or physical harm against any individual or group; "

Your post

"Oh, how I wish I met someone like this type of SOB on the street, I wouldn't hesitate to smack that smoggy litte sh*t across their face."

Just broke that rule. as do a lot of your posts. get reported and get your posts deleted for breach of the rules that YOU agreed to when you signed up. Saying that you did not read them when you signed up does not excuse you from compliance.
12:19 June 9, 2011 by infidel2012
I'd imagine that goes for about 90% of all the readers comments on The Local.

If that's the case then with only 10% of readers remaining, it's a sure bet that the advertisers will go elsewhere with better exposure to more readers.

I'd be surprised that the local keeps you as the 'Blog Police' when the drop in readership effects their business because of you and your 'Bully' tactics to the rest of the readers.

It's comforting to know were all protected by the Methven Blog Police, who happens to have an ichy trigger finger for the report button. But in actuality, this pathetic 'Johnny-do-Good' has nothing better to do with their freetime.

Rick, do yourself, and everyone else here a favor... Get a life : )
13:20 June 9, 2011 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Planet.Sweden @Post #29

“The peddler now speaks to the countess who's pretending to care for him

Saying, "Name me someone that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him"

But like Louise always says

"Ya can't look at much, can ya man "

OBM is making his own history or is a victim of history ; that's why he's here and not somewhere else. It could be another case of Cherchez la femme...

OBM likes getting on your nerves. I just love OBM.

Take note: It's not only grateful parasites who thank their lucky stars that they escaped Saddam or His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", or a life in squalor and poverty...I too thank Hashem and count myself as one of the lucky ones for being here when I think of some of the alternatives, such as post graduate studies in Florida in ,'69 all expenses paid - or California...UCLA, same year, but by then being already hitched up with a Toubab I foresaw some kind of problems waiting for us in Multi-ethnic USA of that Black Power era and so we split to Ghana ( real Black Power was there...

Keith Richburg drew a lot of flack, for reporting that when he saw countless Tutsi bodies ( like water logs) floating downstream, during the Rwanda Genocide, he cried , but for slavery ( that took him to the US of A , he could have been one such body...

OBM is probably only echoing his good Brother Louis Farrakhan who originally said, “White people are potential humans…they haven't evolved yet."

So now we have a beef with both of them.


16:14 June 9, 2011 by Rick Methven

I have a life thank you, rather a good one in my semi retirement.

I shall be wary of any slimy dirt bags I meet in the street as it just might be you trying to take a shot at me.
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08:38 June 7, 2011 by sfk

@ Uncle

"Before giving this kind of strong comment for anything read the history of roman church and christianity... "

Child's play compared to islam.
19:16 June 10, 2011 by Nordland88
One of the commenters said "...foreign labour is doing s----- labour which swedes wouldn't do." This can also be seen as evidence of an unspoken policy to degrade labour standards and wages. In this way a once fine country is being destroyed by greed. Decent pay, high standards of working conditions, and the use of improved technologies will make nearly all jobs more acceptable.
17:53 June 11, 2011 by zoroastrina
#3 14:24 June 6, 2011 by Syftfel

"So, this is what it's come to? You wave your flag with pride , and your a racist. Sad. He really did succeed. Didn't he? That vile sewer rat, palme. aftonblade

really is only good for paper at the outhouse!"

Syftfel's excremental comments seem to proceed from the Musculus sphincter ani internus. A sewer rat recognizes one of its own. "Mirror on the wall, who is the vilest sewer rat of them all?"
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